View Full Version : The Wall of Wood shield and its possible drop location. . .
Snapdragoon
08-22-2012, 05:16 PM
it suposedly drops in overgrowth. the problem is its reported to be an optional chest drop that suposedly shows up in the basement shrine room before the end fight, behind one of the pillars. however i have ran this a few times and cannot figure out how to get the chest to spawn.
if anyone has any more information on this item, this quest, or what makes the chest spawn it would be greatly apreciated.
Hewage
08-22-2012, 05:42 PM
Ran it twice. The first time I did not kill any of the woads before they disappeared (optionals along the way) and did not see a chest (although I may have simply missed it). The second time I killed two of the woads before they disappeared and did see the chest behind the pillar. Nothing named came out of it.
Snapdragoon
08-22-2012, 06:27 PM
so then the chest spawn is tied to those optionals. okay, i never did get a chance to kill one as they disapear rather fast so i will try and run it as my PM and run through the mob as fast as i can.
once again turbine making DPS king -_-
Snapdragoon
08-22-2012, 07:02 PM
edit: hmmm seems the hotfix changed this, ran it again and was able to insta kill things.
the time limit in wich you have to kill the mob and get the optional still seems to short though.
FZTopaz
08-23-2012, 12:09 AM
Well, it's called EPIC HARD for a reason...maybe you should get a party together instead of solo'ing?
Snapdragoon
08-23-2012, 01:43 AM
first blanket deathward is a lazy cure for poor game design
with scaling saves only get harder with a group. if the mob is making their saves vs a DC based magister i shudder to think what the average player is going through.
also epic only means its over level 20, its also only hard. i dont expect nor want to be able to go through elite. but this is not about that. its not about solo or group, plenty of people solo stuff and plenty of people group regardless of what class they play.
orakio
08-23-2012, 08:14 AM
I havn't confirmed the drop, but this chest really is a bit of a pain to get to on EH/EE.
On EN its like half the mobs or less to clear for the Wood Woad optionals so very easy, but on EH+ you really needs lots of AoE damage. To be honest, if the optional chest is the only place Wall of Wood Drops from I would slightly consider upping the time you get to clear the room on EH+, pretty much impossible to get while solo which is a real bummer.
Maxtrenth
08-23-2012, 08:19 AM
The chests drop if you kill all the defenders before the woads leave (three of them) Two chests spawn, the shield will drop in one of them. A full group with enough AOE, Many Shot, etc can kill the mobs fast enough......
etelan
08-23-2012, 08:20 AM
Pulled 1 last night on EH.
1 Optional = nothing
2 Optionals = 1 chest
3 Optionals = 2 chests
6-man party 1 shield in 4 runs. Only reliably way to farm on higher difficulties is multiple EiN users. Impossible solo?
FZTopaz
08-23-2012, 10:51 AM
Maybe the Draconic ED would help? I went through there and blasted most of the group with energy burst, a ranger and cleric took care of the rest of them and we got the Woads.
Dingleburr
08-23-2012, 12:04 PM
Did this quest a couple times on EH with a group that sort of flew through it. End fight bugged out once. The second time, we completed but there was a side area (appeared to be an opt) on the upper level with some wolves and other stuff that appeared bugged because they were all passive and would not engage.
Given the bugs, it wasn't really clear to me which part of the quest I needed to defeat defenders in before wood woads leave. Can someone provide a more complete description - like which wood woads and what defenders? Are the optionals before the basement shrine area where the wolves & 3 orange names appear and start spamming earthquake? Or is that the optional?
I'd like to understand this better - that shield looks nice - but if some key encounter that spawns the right chest is bugging out frequently, there may be little point in wasting my time until it's fixed.
Pulled 1 last night on EH.
1 Optional = nothing
2 Optionals = 1 chest
3 Optionals = 2 chests
6-man party 1 shield in 4 runs. Only reliably way to farm on higher difficulties is multiple EiN users. Impossible solo?
Yeah they definitely need to raise the time limit on these optionals because it caters severely to one specific build. That is very imbalanced and unfair to all other classes and builds.
LordArkan
08-23-2012, 02:14 PM
The "Use a full group" advice is a pathetic joke-- the scaling on these quests is over the top! I have no problem taking down all three when soloing on my sorcerer, but add 5 puggers and suddenly we're lucky if we clear one.
Snapdragoon
08-23-2012, 08:12 PM
Yeah they definitely need to raise the time limit on these optionals because it caters severely to one specific build. That is very imbalanced and unfair to all other classes and builds.
agreed, the time limit is so short and the groups i have seen farming it are pretty much monks that have EiN, and wizards. i dont even think there is enough time to nuke everything.
and yes as above
1 optional = nothing
2 = 1 chest
3 = 2 chest
Shade
08-24-2012, 01:25 AM
UPDATE
just went through this on epic hard on my PM.
first EVERYTHING is blanket deathwarded = FAIL
second everything keeps making reflex saves? my PM has an int of 44 base before lich or buffs, and is almost a full magister, how high do you expect DC's to be?
third i spam'd spells as fast as i could with complete disregard for my SP pool just to see if i could keep up with the woodwoad. and i was unable too.
. . .some things need to change, this is lame.
Not a single monster in this quest has or casts deathward. Especially not "blanket" versions.
I ran it with a palemaster on epic elite, he utterly destroyed the quest and insta killed nearly everything. No idea what you problem was.
Insta kills in fact are insanely powerful here, as the monsters have massive hitpoints, huge immunities to various non-death effects (criticals, enchantments, etc), so palemasters are beyond the most powerful characters in these quests.
re: OP
Yea I heard the same but never saw it myself.. Others said optional chest.
I can confirm the optional chest at the shrine only appears if you complete the optional (kill all the mobs before the wood woad leaves). You only have about 15-20 seconds to do that, so its not easy. I believe you can complete either optional and get said chest. Or two chests if you complete both. Though just the first should contain teh shield via reports.
robinfu
08-24-2012, 01:33 AM
Sololed EH on my pew pew fvs and got the chest with 2 opts done. Got the shield.
kyostal
08-24-2012, 02:26 PM
Pulled 1 last night on EH.
1 Optional = nothing
2 Optionals = 1 chest
3 Optionals = 2 chests
6-man party 1 shield in 4 runs. Only reliably way to farm on higher difficulties is multiple EiN users. Impossible solo?
you say you pulled one... could you then post a **** picture of it.. (not saying you dint get it... just no one seems to be able to update the wiki cuz no one is showing the **** thing...) if its got 30% heal amp.. its not worth the hassel to farm it on hard..
kyostal
08-24-2012, 02:28 PM
Not a single monster in this quest has or casts deathward. Especially not "blanket" versions.
I ran it with a palemaster on epic elite, he utterly destroyed the quest and insta killed nearly everything. No idea what you problem was.
Insta kills in fact are insanely powerful here, as the monsters have massive hitpoints, huge immunities to various non-death effects (criticals, enchantments, etc), so palemasters are beyond the most powerful characters in these quests.
re: OP
Yea I heard the same but never saw it myself.. Others said optional chest.
I can confirm the optional chest at the shrine only appears if you complete the optional (kill all the mobs before the wood woad leaves). You only have about 15-20 seconds to do that, so its not easy. I believe you can complete either optional and get said chest. Or two chests if you complete both. Though just the first should contain teh shield via reports.
theres actually THREE optionals... :P if you complete 2 of the 3 you get 1 chest, if you complete all 3 you get 2.. :P the third optional is just after the second, but before going down in the cellar.. however its bugged as hell due to the one wisp spawning int he wall.. (and reported to GM who stated it was not in fact there... when everyone in the party could see and hear the **** thing)
Tid12
08-24-2012, 06:45 PM
The time limit should be upped in this quest.
On EE, it's like impossible to do those optionals without at least 2 EiN/3+ Necro specced casters(or implosion). They are 2 waves with 15+ mobs each including those nasty Primal Wisps that daze you every second. No way you can do it without those classes.
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