three barrel cove loot

[FestusHood]

Been looking over some of the 3 barrel cove loot on the wiki and i have to say i like it. I'm actually considering buying the pack during this sale just because of the loot. I have a few questions, if anyone can help me out.

1. What are the droprates like? I'm particularly interested in the oddball stat to damage weapons, and even more specifically the dagger with the improved crit range, and the shortsword with the poison effect on it. The wiki lists the dagger as a rare item drop in an explorer chest. Are we talking bloodstone rare here? Or more like sora kell set pieces rare.

2. Tried to see if i could find a thread that already had the droprates, but all i could find was a thread which was filled with posts talking about how useless these items are. As the items are apparently bound to character on equip it means they can be sold? Has anyone seen any of these things for sale? Could i reasonably expect to be able to buy them? I know i've sold for dirt tons of what i consider the junk weapons in the lordsmarch plaza quests.

It would be appreciated if anyone could give me any info on the above points, and thanks in advance if you do.

[dredre9987]

Took me three ransacks of the handwrap explorer chest to get those so it is what it is...Decent twinkish gear but once equipped it is bound. On cannith I haven't seen any for sale except 2 pairs of wraps since they came out.

Cannith crafting is mostly better than the gear out there but some pieces can fit a niche

[FestusHood]

Thanks for the input. I'm gonna guess by ransack you're probably talking about 30 tries or so? That would still put it above bloodstone rates although it's hard to tell with a single example. I pulled my bloodstone on only my 8th or so try ever. I then went on to crack at least 200 more chests in there on various toons and have yet to pull another named item.

Just want to mention that i would mostly want it, at least the first one for a level 17 dex rogue. I know it sounds crazy, but consider that i just finished reading a lengthy post about the probability of the devs introducing a dex to damage feat for the enancement update. Most of the comments were centered around it being too overpowered, even if it cost 2 feats. (weapon finesse being the other). Here are a couple weapons that give you both effects without any feat investment at all. Not everyones cup of tea but it definitely interests me.

Anyone actually pulled any of the odd mod to damage weapons, or bought or sold them?

[Azdraugnor]

Just want to mention that i would mostly want it, at least the first one for a level 17 dex rogue. I know it sounds crazy, but consider that i just finished reading a lengthy post about the probability of the devs introducing a dex to damage feat for the enancement update. Most of the comments were centered around it being too overpowered, even if it cost 2 feats.
If this is what you want, just use the Breeze quarterstaff from Abbot. It lets you use dex as your damage modifier, and it has high level affixes.

[FestusHood]

Thanks for the suggestion about the abbot staff. I checked it out and it looks pretty cool. I don't have the necro packs, and if i did i'm not really up to the level as a player of raid loot farming anyway. I understand some of these things can take a looong time to get. I also don't have any static group on the server where my rogue is, it would have to be pure pug farming.

I did realize after i made this thread that i could easier get the envenomed blade from the web chain. I knew about this blade but also knew it wasn't in any packs i owned, so i assumed it was in one i didn't own. 'Doh' it's in a free one.

Still considering buying this pack for toons i was thinking about making, and also for a certain dps challenged spellsinger bard who really likes the look of the charisma for combat club that's in there.

Don't want to get this pack if getting this equipment is as hard as getting a spell storing ring from the desert, and that's what i was hoping to find out from starting this thread. Still hoping someone knows and can help me out.

Thanks again

P.S. yeah i know about the one in the gianthold raid too (treason?)

[FranOhmsford]

It took me 2 Ransacks to get my Chieftain's Spear.

2 Ransacks to get Strinati's Hand Cannon

Gone 2 Ransacks plus and still don't have the Minotaur's Wraps.

Got the Moonhowl Axe about 3 times in that period.

Never seen the other loot drop BUT wasn't specifically going for those items so won't have got through 2 Ransacks yet!

Gonna guess at about 1/20 chance or 5% drop rate.

[FranOhmsford]

Thanks for the suggestion about the abbot staff. I checked it out and it looks pretty cool. I don't have the necro packs, and if i did i'm not really up to the level as a player of raid loot farming anyway. I understand some of these things can take a looong time to get. I also don't have any static group on the server where my rogue is, it would have to be pure pug farming.

I did realize after i made this thread that i could easier get the envenomed blade from the web chain. I knew about this blade but also knew it wasn't in any packs i owned, so i assumed it was in one i didn't own. 'Doh' it's in a free one.

Still considering buying this pack for toons i was thinking about making, and also for a certain dps challenged spellsinger bard who really likes the look of the charisma for combat club that's in there.

Don't want to get this pack if getting this equipment is as hard as getting a spell storing ring from the desert, and that's what i was hoping to find out from starting this thread. Still hoping someone knows and can help me out.

Thanks again

P.S. yeah i know about the one in the gianthold raid too (treason?)

Moonhowl Axe is a Beaut!

Really nice weapon!

And actually seems to be much more common than the other items in my experience.

You could say the drop rates are similar to Sands in that some of the items drop more often than others.

I've found the Moonhowl Axe and the Troll's Loot to drop faster than other items personally.

I fogot about The Orc's Armour - That took me about 2 1/2 ransacks to get.

[Jaid314]

done probably 3-4 ransacks worth, give or take (i didn't go all the time on the same character, but i'd say between 20-30 runs is not too inaccurate). my experience is that on a full run, i generally got an average of 1 item per 2 runs or so. obviously, with a full group that should go up.

that said, it *is* bind on equip, not pickup, so you may be able to just buy the gear.

edit: well, the two pieces you're looking for are btcoe anyways. there's some that binds on pickups, that's all end rewards though.

[FestusHood]

Thanks Fran and Jaid, that's exactly the info i was looking for. Sounds like the droprate is about halfway between Menechtarun, which i'm guessing is at best 1%, and lordsmarch items, which i'll guess is about 10%.

I'm especially happy to hear about the moonhowl axe being pretty common. My spellsinger is currently level 15 and has a 32 charisma and 14 strength. I just used my free lesser reincarnation to jiggle her stats a little and i swapped extend for power attack because i solo a lot and don't really have anyway to kill things other than beating on them, in my pathetic way. I noticed that with power attack on i'm missing a little more than i want to, even in the new to hit system. It may seem like a joke that i'm looking for a level 4 weapon for a level 15 character, but realize that axe/club will give me quite a boost with my current build. I won't even have to get fat off divine power scrolls anymore.

Wow, i posted on the forums to ask about loot that's generally regarded as junk, and i get helpful and polite responses? All i can say is "What's going on here?...Where am I!?...Who are you people?!?!"

As soon as i figure out how to give rep i'll toss ya some.

Thanks again

[Haphazarduk]

I have probably run three barrel cove close to a hundred times now. I have looted 2 Tiefling Assassin Blades and been gifted one by another player. I'm currently levelling a drow assassin with an 8 strength (high Dex and Int). The blades are awesome (look on the wiki) but are BtcoE.

I've found the chances of getting any rare loot in TBC is greatly increased if you're in a group. I haven't pulled anything interesting on the last 20 runs solo. In addition to the blades I've pulled two sets of handwraps, the chieftain's spear and the scrag bow. I've seen all the rare mobs but some are much rarer than others. Strinati almost always tuns up whilst the captain hardly ever does.

If you can get a group together I'd say that's the way to go. It's quick to run the circuit around the island clockwise and go past 5 or 6 locations for rares although the run through the centre is the quickest to see if Ithun Orenah is there (the Tielfing).

Hap

[SiliconScout]

You should know though that the XP per minute is ****.

Not that the quests take long to do but the running back and forth takes forever.

The Cove is beautifully designed from a visual stand point but everything is spread to hells half-acre and back.

Personally I bought the pack (on sale thank Zeus) and have been out there maybe 3 times. I just avoid it like the plague (even on a 3rd+ lifer) because all the running around is annoying to say the least. If I could return it personally I would. The upgraded gear is OK but, for me, not worth the grind.

[cru121]

I've looted the Scorching Wraps on two servers with my favor runners. (Sold them for some easy plat). I haven't hit ransack on either.

I've killed Strinati around 10 times, no rune arm.

[Gizeh]

The items that you can get as end reward are fairly easy to get, can't say a lot about the itmes that drop in rare encounter chests.

IMHO it's a fun adventure pack, just too expensive at its normal price and of low priority due to the level range and lowish xp. Depending on your play style it might be worth buying if it's on sale. However, as SiliconScout has pointed out, it's not for players for whom good xp/minute are a high priority.

[FestusHood]

Thanks to all that contributed. I'm not an xp per minute kind of guy and as i already have catacombs, tangleroot, and delera's i definitely don't need the pack for the xp. No, my interest is entirely centered on the groovy loot.

The only pack i bought so far just because of loot is the attack on stormreach chain, so i could upgrade my sora kell set. The weapons in 3bc actually look more interesting to me than the ones in the lordsmarch quests. Turbine obviously wanted to get people to buy that dead pack, and they hit the nail on the head. Not just competitive loot but items that have super rare properties, catering to people who want to do crazy things, just to see if it can be done.

I'd probably be farming that gear with fairly high level characters, as i figure you don't make a toon that entirely depends on dex for damage until you have the weapon in hand(s).

I'm currently thinking along the lines of a drow tempest, with a starting 20 dex, and all level ups. Or possibly an elven abomination with some mix of rogue fighter and ranger, with the displacement dragonmark and evasion. Ill have to dink around in the character planner/thing maker and see what pops out.

Another cool thing about the tiefling blade is that it's double keen, it has the crit range of a keen rapier or scimitar. People talk about the Carnifex being awesome for basically the same reason, and it doesn't have wounding and poison as extra kickers. The moonhowl axe just gives me the vision of my drow sorceress beating the snot out of something like a raged barbarian. Out of sp? meh.

Oh well, the mind wanders. Glad to see i'm not the only one that thinks these weapons are pretty cool.

bedways is bestways now, dream of working sora kell sets when you wake!

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[Jaid314]

just a side note, the loot in three barrel cove is not actually bad loot. in fact, for the level you get it at, it is extremely good, for certain character builds. there's a staff that gives lore and elemental damage to cold and electric spells at low levels, there are various weapons that use non-standard attributes for to-hit and damage, weapons with non-standard crit ranges, and weapons with non-standard damage types (like a staff that deals piercing damage and a bow that deals bludgeoning damage, iirc). and the other abilities on the weapons are actually quite a bit better than most at that level too.

the main reason you don't need to farm it is that it's level 4 loot... and you can blow through level 4 very quickly if you try whether or not you have those items. none of it is stuff you're going to need desperately at level 20, but almost all of it is very nice for the level you get it at.

[Azdraugnor]

The main issue with it, in my opinion, is that it takes so long to farm the item you want that you'll outlevel it by the time you actually get it.

[Jsbeer]

The main issue with it, in my opinion, is that it takes so long to farm the item you want that you'll outlevel it by the time you actually get it.

Well, Bound-to-Account items are always preferred for this reason......

HINT HINT DEVS!

;)

[Galeria]

Three Barrel Cove is a beautiful area.

The quests are fairly different-feeling than a lot of low-level quests.

(Read: too hard for some to figure out. There's a quest full of traps and climbing challenges, a 3-d full room puzzle, there's another quest where you have to find "parts" on a trap-laden multi-level map, etc. The paths through the quests aren't quite as linear, with some exploring required for first-timers who haven't read maps, etc.)

Also, two of the quests require you to recall all the way back to the beginning to speak to the quest giver, then run back to the quest and run the same map again before getting an end reward.

I love 3BC myself. I think it is truly a lovely area with unique dungeons and fun lore. Since the new loot, I've been able to get groups to do slayers out there even.

It's not a powergamer's area, though. The XP isn't high enough, the distance to quests is just an inconvenience and the loot isn't high powered.

It's just for fun.

[bartharok]

ive killed the rare 5 times and have gotten 2 blades, that may make me very lucky, but ive gotten a fairly decent amount of the others as well. In total i think ive been to 3bc about 10 times, and have gotten 2 cannons, 2 blades, 3 axes, 1 map, 1 admirals armor

[janave]

Got the handwraps on my first pull, then out of curiosity i ransacked the chest and nothing :).

[Dulcimerist]

I've been trying to grind out the Moonhowl Axe on Orien, and still nothing after killing that rare 7 times. Maybe I should form a 3BC loot party...

Update - Ransacked the Moonhowl Axe chest, but still no Moonhowl Axe. I also killed Scorchtusk and Captain Dustdyn numerous times in the process, but they didn't drop their rare loot, either. Hopefully more people will farm up the BtCoE items and put them on the AH.

[JOTMON]

3BC is a great visual quest area.
Quests are challenging and fun (assuming you have a rogue in the party)
The new at level loot is pretty nice, but my biggest issue with 3BC new loot is that it is all BTC.

In my opinion most of this loot is worthless since by the time you get it you are already beyond its usefullness and moving into better items/gear. Unless you plan on TR'ing multiple times and have lots of extra bank space.
or.. If you plan on being level 6 for a really long time, then this may be the place for you.


BTA would have served 3BC much better than its current BTC restrictions.

[bartharok]

the scoudnrel type weapons are far from useless at the point that you get them since you can get ANY of them simply by running any of the quests (except the ship defence thingy) 3 times. Do one on whatever diff you want to preserve your streak, and then run it on normal twice, wont take you more than an hour usually, and you get your pick of scoundrel weapons, not a bad thing IMO.