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doomboy
08-13-2012, 11:41 PM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt? i've heard the name mentioned quite a bit around the forums, and i'd like to know who he is.

carll78
08-13-2012, 11:43 PM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt?

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af134/gnosblax/neil-patrick-harris-spit-take.gif

carll78
08-13-2012, 11:44 PM
More seriously now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drizzt_Do%27Urden/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drizzt_Do%27Urden)

:D

Nullaer
08-14-2012, 12:09 AM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt? i've heard the name mentioned quite a bit around the forums, and i'd like to know who he is.

I had to look him up to

/hides

Hambo
08-14-2012, 12:13 AM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt? i've heard the name mentioned quite a bit around the forums, and i'd like to know who he is.

Drizzt is less serious/annoying infection than his older brother, "Post Nasal" Drizzt :)

LOOON375
08-14-2012, 12:13 AM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt? i've heard the name mentioned quite a bit around the forums, and i'd like to know who he is.This has to be a joke.

but in case it's not joke, Drizzt is probably the biggest name in D&D outside of Gary Gygax.

The character, Drizzt literally took on a life of it's own when the novels were released. It started a nerd craze in '80s. I know I bought and read all of the novels up to a point while I was in high school.

Saravis
08-14-2012, 12:13 AM
Read some R.A. Salvatore
Dark Elf Trilogy and Icewind Dale are good places to start.

LOOON375
08-14-2012, 12:17 AM
Oh and this whole expansion pack you are playing? You can thank Drizzt and his creator, Salvatore for that. It's all based on Drizzt and his background. The novels were amazing back in the day.

doomboy
08-14-2012, 01:08 AM
okay, thanks for the info guys! i've never really read anything of DnD or FR, so i'm rather ignorant in that area :(

FranOhmsford
08-14-2012, 01:43 AM
Read some R.A. Salvatore
Dark Elf Trilogy and Icewind Dale are good places to start.

I actually found my favourite R.A. Salvatore novel was a none D&D Story called Echoes of the Fourth Magic.

I did read the first 7 Drizz't novels and enjoyed them all but I've never seen the mass appeal.

samthedagger
08-14-2012, 01:52 AM
R. A. Salvatore has a way with ideas and backgrounds. His language and diction leave a little to be desired, but his characters are intriguing. He took the notion of the well-meaning rebel against a cruel society (not a novel idea, but a classic and respected one in story-telling) and popularized it in D&D with Drizz't. To me it is not so much the way he tells the story as it is the detailed background and history behind his characters themselves that really spark the imagination.

Viisari
08-14-2012, 02:27 AM
He's a chaotic good dark elf with some family issues.

And since Gand---Elminster is in the game too I guess we'll be seeing him at some point.

Uska
08-14-2012, 02:42 AM
Something I wish didnt exist.

Uska
08-14-2012, 02:44 AM
Oh and this whole expansion pack you are playing? You can thank Drizzt and his creator, Salvatore for that. It's all based on Drizzt and his background. The novels were amazing back in the day.

I wouldnt say amazing the first few were ok and I found other FR novels much better such as darkwalker on moonshae and the trouble trilogy with the gods amoungst the mortals forget the names of those .

Memnir
08-14-2012, 03:02 AM
Oh and this whole expansion pack you are playing? You can thank Drizzt and his creator, Salvatore for that.
Ed Greenwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Greenwood) called...

He disagrees.

goodspeed
08-14-2012, 05:22 AM
Ed greenword's da pimp. Really liked his kingless land series.

Salvador's good mostly. After a bit his books got dry here and there. Kinda like Margarette Weiss and Tracy Hickman. I mean eventually the story itself was just lacking. Let alone the books released had so many grammer/sentence structure errors it was actually vividly apparent when reading.

They need to fire whoever checks that **** over there cause I think they've been hittn the top shelf bottle at work.

vegabond1969
08-14-2012, 05:29 AM
When the Drow of the Underdark source book came out I thought that was great. I never read any of the Drizzt books, just listened to the Dark Elf and Icewind Dale stories at work on audio books a few weeks ago. First time I ever heard of him was in the PS2 Baldur's Gate game and then in the Demon Stone game. Guess I'm not as big a nerd as my wife thinks :p

grayham
08-14-2012, 05:51 AM
Warning: Critic mode on.

The Dark elf trilogy is great, since Drizzt is a character with large appeal and themes of racism, love and prejudice are tackled. They also paint a vivid picture of the Underdark and will enhance your experience of the explorer area within DDO. Unfortunately the books take a bit of nosedive when they start to concentrate more on other characters like Wulfgar and Catti-brie who are, I think, simply annoying. Jarlaxle is a significant redeeming feature, as is Regis to a lesser extent.

If anyone wants to get a feel for the realms I would recommend RA Salvatore (RAS) ahead of Greenwood. Now before you hit 'reply' and tear me to bits hear me out. I'm not saying that either is the better author, but Salvatore's writing style is much easier to pick up and less descriptive than Greenwood. RAS was picked to write the new Star Wars books for goodness sake. Greenwood frequently loses the readers focus by being to elaborate in his descriptions. Perhaps if James Earl Jones put Greenwood's work into Audiobook I might change my mind though.

Ausdoerrt
08-14-2012, 05:51 AM
but in case it's not joke, Drizzt is probably the biggest name in D&D outside of Gary Gygax.


I've had pugs in Delera ask me "Who the heck is this Gygax guy and why should I care he's voicing?"

Antiguo
08-14-2012, 05:55 AM
Read some R.A. Salvatore
Dark Elf Trilogy and Icewind Dale are good places to start.

Why do you hate the OP?

doomboy
08-14-2012, 05:56 AM
I've had pugs in Delera ask me "Who the heck is this Gygax guy and why should I care he's voicing?"

i only just found out who he was on his day :p
well, we all are ignorant in something or the other.

grgurius
08-14-2012, 06:00 AM
He's a chaotic good dark elf with some family issues.

And since Gand---Elminster is in the game too I guess we'll be seeing him at some point.

I hoping for "Drizzt fate", where we need to beat some sense into him, with lob style multiple beatdowns optional. :D

Viisari
08-14-2012, 06:07 AM
I hoping for "Drizzt fate", where we need to beat some sense into him, with lob style multiple beatdowns optional. :D

You could always go play some Baldur's Gate to beat his black arse and steal his weapons.

noinfo
08-14-2012, 06:31 AM
Ed Greenwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Greenwood) called...

He disagrees.

He can disagree all he wants, but the reality is that it is based more on the R.A stuff, you could have thrown his work into any campaign setting (almost) without the need for FR and it would have worked here.

Xaxx
08-14-2012, 06:47 AM
to be fair we'll not run into drizzt anywhere near evening star or cormyr itself since its 20some years post spell plague. Maybe if we expand twoards waterdeep or atleast into lands west of mithril hall we might run into him and bruenor. Then again I suppose they can always find some way to crowbar him into a storyline, but right now, the time frame we're in, hes in the west with bruenor and maybe pwent is still with them. Ahh... yes.... actually... lets go west... I do so wish to run into pwent and see his reaction to a warforged lol.

Anyone care to try and come up with ddo damage dice on pwents head spike?

baletraeger
08-14-2012, 07:10 AM
I hoping for "Drizzt fate", where we need to beat some sense into him, with lob style multiple beatdowns optional. :D

Based on his longwinded and melodramatic journal entries I would hesitate to enter a raid with him; if you think Lolth talking in the middle of a climactic battle it bad, just wait!

I've met Ed Greenwood a bunch of times (he 'works' at the library in Port Hope ON where my inlaws live) and he's a great guy; my favorite of his writings as still the Elminster's Ecologies from Dragon Magazine.

noinfo
08-14-2012, 08:20 AM
I hoping for "Drizzt fate", where we need to beat some sense into him, with lob style multiple beatdowns optional. :D

Was more hoping for elminster fate.

Failedlegend
08-14-2012, 08:23 AM
On as sidenote I'm currently reading R.A. Salvatores Dragon Realms series and loving it (already finished the entire Drizzt series...honestly Drizzt himself was kinda meh but the series overall was good...especially Bruenor and Regis)

skullzz
08-14-2012, 08:24 AM
to be fair we'll not run into drizzt anywhere near evening star or cormyr itself since its 20some years post spell plague. Maybe if we expand twoards waterdeep or atleast into lands west of mithril hall we might run into him and bruenor. Then again I suppose they can always find some way to crowbar him into a storyline, but right now, the time frame we're in, hes in the west with bruenor and maybe pwent is still with them. Ahh... yes.... actually... lets go west... I do so wish to run into pwent and see his reaction to a warforged lol.

Anyone care to try and come up with ddo damage dice on pwents head spike?

For the damage I would have to say 4[d6] . Yes it is low but he has thrash which causes those die to hit about 5 times in 6 seconds. Oh and don't forget it has massive bleed another 4 d6 every 2 seconds.


Now to the rest of the post. You guys that do not like RA Salvator need to really stop saying people are stupid when they do. I enjoy all forgotten realms books and can not say who is the better author because I enjoy the story not the writing.

If you want to put your support with one author go ahead. Just realize not everyone in the world will agree with you.

We also will not be running into Drizz't because Neverwinter 2 got the rights before DDO. So that means at least until NW2 loses its appeal no Drizz't story arc.

Miow
08-14-2012, 08:56 AM
Warning: Critic mode on.

The Dark elf trilogy is great, since Drizzt is a character with large appeal and themes of racism, love and prejudice are tackled. They also paint a vivid picture of the Underdark and will enhance your experience of the explorer area within DDO. Unfortunately the books take a bit of nosedive when they start to concentrate more on other characters like Wulfgar and Catti-brie who are, I think, simply annoying. Jarlaxle is a significant redeeming feature, as is Regis to a lesser extent.

If anyone wants to get a feel for the realms I would recommend RA Salvatore (RAS) ahead of Greenwood. Now before you hit 'reply' and tear me to bits hear me out. I'm not saying that either is the better author, but Salvatore's writing style is much easier to pick up and less descriptive than Greenwood. RAS was picked to write the new Star Wars books for goodness sake. Greenwood frequently loses the readers focus by being to elaborate in his descriptions. Perhaps if James Earl Jones put Greenwood's work into Audiobook I might change my mind though.

Speaking of the underdark *** are the hook horrors and the myconids and the crazy owl bears

OzmarDDO
08-14-2012, 09:18 AM
just wanted to know, who exactly is Drizzt? i've heard the name mentioned quite a bit around the forums, and i'd like to know who he is.

Isn't he some kind of half-elf with two swords and a giant white panther kitty?

Not sure...

-Ozmar the Ignorant

Captain_Wizbang
08-14-2012, 09:21 AM
okay, thanks for the info guys! i've never really read anything of DnD or FR, so i'm rather ignorant in that area :(


Doomboy, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Forgotten Realms series of books is some of Swords & Sorcery Fantasy books written.
Dritzz is the underlying hero, badasss, loved & hated hero of the books.
A TWF Dark Elf, with a Panther, that champion many a novel in that series.

Another good read, (93 books) is Ffafhrd & Mouser, set in Lhankmar. By Fritz Leiber

Now put the game controller down, and pick up a book. :eek:


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/chefricochet/DDO/drizzt1.jpg?t=1344950797

doomboy
08-14-2012, 09:23 AM
Doomboy, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Forgotten Realms series of books is some of Swords & Sorcery Fantasy books written.
Dritzz is the underlying hero, badasss, loved & hated hero of the books.
A TWF Dark Elf, with a Panther, that champion many a novel in that series.

Another good read, (93 books) is Ffafhrd & Mouser, set in Lhankmar. By Fritz Leiber

Now put the game controller down, and pick up a book. :eek:

so far i've only read the Halo books in terms of books relating to video games. as for the FR books, i'll have to check if they are available in India :/

RabidKoala
08-14-2012, 09:26 AM
so far i've only read the Halo books in terms of books relating to video games. as for the FR books, i'll have to check if they are available in India :/

It's not so much books related to video games, as much as video games related to books. That and books related to PnP.

doomboy
08-14-2012, 09:31 AM
It's not so much books related to video games, as much as video games related to books. That and books related to PnP.

i'll have to check still.

FranOhmsford
08-14-2012, 09:32 AM
Warning: Critic mode on.

The Dark elf trilogy is great, since Drizzt is a character with large appeal and themes of racism, love and prejudice are tackled. They also paint a vivid picture of the Underdark and will enhance your experience of the explorer area within DDO. Unfortunately the books take a bit of nosedive when they start to concentrate more on other characters like Wulfgar and Catti-brie who are, I think, simply annoying. Jarlaxle is a significant redeeming feature, as is Regis to a lesser extent.

If anyone wants to get a feel for the realms I would recommend RA Salvatore (RAS) ahead of Greenwood. Now before you hit 'reply' and tear me to bits hear me out. I'm not saying that either is the better author, but Salvatore's writing style is much easier to pick up and less descriptive than Greenwood.RAS was picked to write the new Star Wars books for goodness sake. Greenwood frequently loses the readers focus by being to elaborate in his descriptions. Perhaps if James Earl Jones put Greenwood's work into Audiobook I might change my mind though.

And the first thing he did was kill Chewie for cryin' out loud!

How would his fans like it if some other author came along and killed off Bruenor or Regis?

That was the last Star Wars novel I bothered with btw - Up till that point I'd bought and read the lot - Some were pretty bad {The Correllia series}, Some were amazing {anything by Timothy Zahn}.

doomboy
08-14-2012, 09:38 AM
RAS was picked to write the new Star Wars books for goodness sake.

And the first thing he did was kill Chewie for cryin' out loud!

How would his fans like it if some other author came along and killed off Bruenor or Regis?

That was the last Star Wars novel I bothered with btw - Up till that point I'd bought and read the lot - Some were pretty bad {The Correllia series}, Some were amazing {anything by Timothy Zahn}.

the new legacy of the force series and the new books are amazing. come back! i love my school library as it has around 3 shelves dedicated to star wars books :D
also, spoiler alert, Anakin, Jacen and Mara are all dead. Anakin died in the Yuuzan-vong war, Jacen killed Mara 'cos he was going sith and she tried to stop him, and Jaina killed him 'cos he was sith. so Han and Leia are taking care of Allana, renaming her Amelia so people wouldn't know her true identity.

FranOhmsford
08-14-2012, 09:50 AM
the new legacy of the force series and the new books are amazing. come back! i love my school library as it has around 3 shelves dedicated to star wars books :D
also, spoiler alert, Anakin, Jacen and Mara are all dead. Anakin died in the Yuuzan-vong war, Jacen killed Mara 'cos he was going sith and she tried to stop him, and Jaina killed him 'cos he was sith. so Han and Leia are taking care of Allana, renaming her Amelia so people wouldn't know her true identity.

Good God! So it just got worse and worse - No thank you.

grayham
08-14-2012, 09:51 AM
And the first thing he did was kill Chewie for cryin' out loud!

How would his fans like it if some other author came along and killed off Bruenor or Regis?

That was the last Star Wars novel I bothered with btw - Up till that point I'd bought and read the lot - Some were pretty bad {The Correllia series}, Some were amazing {anything by Timothy Zahn}.

Well, forgive my ignorance. What I meant to say was that he was chosen to do the write up for the attack of the clones, which is true. That is a big endorsement for writing prowess IMO.

However. He. Killed. Chewie? What?!!!

ughh.

doomboy
08-14-2012, 09:52 AM
Good God! So it just got worse and worse - No thank you.

lol. it's awesome imo, but each to their own.

Dark_Knight_Silver
08-14-2012, 10:15 AM
Doomboy, beyond a reasonable doubt, the Forgotten Realms series of books is some of Swords & Sorcery Fantasy books written.
Dritzz is the underlying hero, badasss, loved & hated hero of the books.
A TWF Dark Elf, with a Panther, that champion many a novel in that series.

Another good read, (93 books) is Ffafhrd & Mouser, set in Lhankmar. By Fritz Leiber

Now put the game controller down, and pick up a book. :eek:


http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/chefricochet/DDO/drizzt1.jpg?t=1344950797
Nice pic.... Too Bad drizzt was a drow :p

FranOhmsford
08-14-2012, 10:17 AM
Nice pic.... Too Bad drizzt was a drow :p

Yes - He is a bit on the pale side there isn't he?

OzmarDDO
08-14-2012, 10:21 AM
Another good read, (93 books) is Ffafhrd & Mouser, set in Lhankmar. By Fritz Leiber

Now put the game controller down, and pick up a book. :eek:


93 books?! Srsly!? Guess I'll see you in 2 years... :P

-Ozmar the Overwhelmed :eek:

Captain_Wizbang
08-14-2012, 10:23 AM
Nice pic.... Too Bad drizzt was a drow :p


Yes - He is a bit on the pale side there isn't he?


I didn't make that pic. I have 30 or so images of him, but this one was the first in my photobucket archive I found.

Maybe he was "ill" in that pic? (think about that)

DeafeningWhisper
08-14-2012, 10:26 AM
He's a cliche with cymitars and pointy ears...

GlassJaw
08-14-2012, 10:27 AM
93 books?! Srsly!?

They are short series which have been compiled in a series of 7 books IIRC.

GlassJaw
08-14-2012, 10:28 AM
He's a cliche with cymitars and pointy ears...

He's a cliche now but that's only because he became so popular. Drizzt started the cliche.

GlassJaw
08-14-2012, 10:29 AM
Ed Greenwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Greenwood) called...

He disagrees.

Well he shouldn't disagree too much. Greenwood created the Forgotten Realms, Salvatore created Drizzt.

skullzz
08-14-2012, 10:30 AM
And the first thing he did was kill Chewie for cryin' out loud!

How would his fans like it if some other author came along and killed off Bruenor or Regis?

That was the last Star Wars novel I bothered with btw - Up till that point I'd bought and read the lot - Some were pretty bad {The Correllia series}, Some were amazing {anything by Timothy Zahn}.

To bad Salvator killed Regis and Bruenor. Regis in the spell plague ( forget due to being atleast 3 years since I read it last). And Bruenor in the book before or first book of Neverwinter series (current series with Drizz't)

I can see where you are coming from though.

Traver
08-14-2012, 10:40 AM
The book abou Jaraxle and Entreri was great. The Dark Elf series is almost required fantasy reading imho.

I don't get into all R.A's stuff, but I buy anything that has Drizzt in it.

One thing I think Salvatore excels at are his combat sequences, they are not too wordy yet vivid enough to feel you are there, feeling the wind as Drizzt whirls his blades.

DeafeningWhisper
08-14-2012, 10:42 AM
He's a cliche now but that's only because he became so popular. Drizzt started the cliche.

One of the oldest cliche in story telling is "the main character who overcame his dark/uknown past to become a hero", ancient mythologie is full of half-gods and princes fighting to free their people from their father/familly/race...

It was original for a DnD setting maybe, but still an old cliche.

Ausdoerrt
08-14-2012, 10:43 AM
One thing I think Salvatore excels at are his combat sequences, they are not too wordy yet vivid enough to feel you are there, feeling the wind as Drizzt whirls his blades.

I'll be honest (flame shield on), I've never made it to one. I tried both the Dark Elf series and the IWD series but gave up both less than 50 pages in. Maybe I'm just not much of a fantasy reader, maybe I just didn't click with Salvatore's writing style.

GlassJaw
08-14-2012, 12:05 PM
One of the oldest cliche in story telling is "the main character who overcame his dark/uknown past to become a hero", ancient mythologie is full of half-gods and princes fighting to free their people from their father/familly/race...

It was original for a DnD setting maybe, but still an old cliche.

Yeah but you can say that about virtually any story ever written that involves some kind of heroic figure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

I meant the cliche of a good-aligned dual-wielding drow.

Tenlaar
08-14-2012, 12:45 PM
I'll be honest (flame shield on), I've never made it to one. I tried both the Dark Elf series and the IWD series but gave up both less than 50 pages in. Maybe I'm just not much of a fantasy reader, maybe I just didn't click with Salvatore's writing style.

Everybody has stuff they can't stand. I tore through all twelve billion Salvatore books.

People are shocked when they find out I absolutely can't stand Tolkien's writing. I forced myself to finish The Hobbit and never touched another. Though that may not be as surprising now as it was 15 years ago.

DeafeningWhisper
08-14-2012, 01:04 PM
Yeah but you can say that about virtually any story ever written that involves some kind of heroic figure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

I meant the cliche of a good-aligned dual-wielding drow.

In that case you are completely right, he's the original "good drow", pretty sure they weren't even a playable race before he came along.

macubrae
08-14-2012, 01:20 PM
...was because they both play the game. R.A. Salvatore was known for running and writing modules for D&D as was Ed Greenwood. I have friends that watched R.A.S. at a con running a game with friends.

Also, to get everyone that doesn't care up to speed, Bruenor, Regis, Catti-brie, and Wulfgar are all dead now.

Tenlaar
08-14-2012, 01:24 PM
...and Wulfgar are all dead now.

I'm not falling for THAT one again!

SableShadow
08-14-2012, 01:26 PM
pretty sure they weren't even a playable race before he came along.

People were playing them forever; depends on your DM and campaign ... had a rogue/wizard LE drow, for instance, in .... gah, '87? maybe '88?

No one in my gaming group had even head of Salvatore at that point.

Moonsickle
08-14-2012, 01:40 PM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/chefricochet/DDO/drizzt1.jpg?t=1344950797




It would appear Drizzt was the Micheal Jackson of the Drow???

Chai
08-14-2012, 01:47 PM
In that case you are completely right, he's the original "good drow", pretty sure they weren't even a playable race before he came along.

Drow were in the monster manual I of AD&D first edition as a playable race. They were even in Greyhawk previous to FR.

They just didnt become popular until Salvatore wrote his novels. The reason alot of people are hooked on them is because Salvatore is one of the best authors at describing battle scenes, move by move, thrust and counter, killing blows, anticipation, baiting and switching - all like a chess match.

Many of the other FR authors are good at paying attention to plot and detail, but none of them come close to the combat descriptions provided by Salvatore.

Thus, Drizzt became iconic, because no one could beat him in single combat for the longest time - combined with multiple peoples well described attempts due to Salvatores superior description of each battle. It doesnt matter that his build/equipment is gimp by min maxer standards, or that any of the caster types should have been able to roast him in a game scenario. These are the novels, where the authors pen shapes the story, not the dice.

Drizzt, Entreri, and Cattie Brie escaping the underdark with wizards and clerics chasing them? In the novels, sure. In a game scenario? LOL.

DeafeningWhisper
08-14-2012, 01:47 PM
People were playing them forever; depends on your DM and campaign ... had a rogue/wizard LE drow, for instance, in .... gah, '87? maybe '88?

No one in my gaming group had even head of Salvatore at that point.

I meant as an actual PC template, I played a homebrewed minotaur in several games.

Moonsickle
08-14-2012, 01:47 PM
the new legacy of the force series and the new books are amazing. come back! i love my school library as it has around 3 shelves dedicated to star wars books :D
also, spoiler alert, Anakin, Jacen and Mara are all dead. Anakin died in the Yuuzan-vong war, Jacen killed Mara 'cos he was going sith and she tried to stop him, and Jaina killed him 'cos he was sith. so Han and Leia are taking care of Allana, renaming her Amelia so people wouldn't know her true identity.




So they made Stars Wars into a soap opera now???



What's next...


Star Wars the Musical [can hear Broadway scrambling now to get this one]




.

doomboy
08-14-2012, 01:50 PM
So they made Stars Wars into a soap opera now???



What's next...


Star Wars the Musical [can hear Broadway scrambling now to get this one]




.

not so much a soap opera as a really twisted action series. REALLY twisted. not to mention the convoluted politics in it.

SableShadow
08-14-2012, 01:57 PM
I meant as an actual PC template, I played a homebrewed minotaur in several games.

I understood; just pointing out that people have been playing 'exotics' for a long time before they were 'official'.

I don't think the existence of a PC drow template has anything more to do with Salvatore than, say, the half-orc templates ... or the recurring calls for Kobolds as a playable race in DDO. ;)

I think he's a decent author; I've never been as enamored with him as a lot of people seem to be.

Eighnuss
08-14-2012, 01:58 PM
This has to be a joke.

but in case it's not joke, Drizzt is probably the biggest name in D&D outside of Gary Gygax.



DDO is internet online game

DnD is pen and paper role playing game.

do not expect all players of ddo to be PnP savants. It took me a year to figure out who the memorial in deleras was about, after over hearing the same name reused in different context.

Also after reading that wiki, it sounds like he (author) just crapped out something in standard business fashion when lawyers told him his original plan was unacceptable.

DO I HAVE ANOTHER IDEA MRS EMPLOYER??? UM.. Yeah I have another character waiting for the role. hes a Driii... Drow! Drow Elf named Dro.zzzzt Drizzzzt! Yeah thats it! Of course I didn't just think of it now! What do u mean spell it?

ayspam
08-14-2012, 02:02 PM
After all these years I d imagine Wulfgar and Catti-Brie have a kid? Maybe Wulfi-Brie?

CavernDragon
08-14-2012, 02:04 PM
So people like Drizzt a little to much.
Drizzt and my son at GenCon 2011
http://www.rtnns.com/driz.jpg

Saravis
08-14-2012, 02:06 PM
What's next...


Star Wars the Musical [can hear Broadway scrambling now to get this one]




.

Well

*cough*

kind of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp8T097vjc



After all these years I d imagine Wulfgar and Catti-Brie have a kid? Maybe Wulfi-Brie?

From what I understand Catti-brie eventually marries Drizzt at some point, though I have no idea of the specifics, I had skipped that section of the story.

Chai
08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
So they made Stars Wars into a soap opera now???



What's next...


Star Wars the Musical [can hear Broadway scrambling now to get this one]




.

No, the movies are all the soap operas where good and evil are clearly defined and comic humor characters are included. The books are another animal entirely - and alot more realistic than the movies would have people believe. Characters people were attached to die, or are temped by evil. The characters arent these black and while cookie cutter versions that are on display in the movies. They are all flawed in some way shape or form.

The series regarding Mace Windu and his apprentice was exceptionally well written and characterizes how the dark side twists peoples minds in ways that Heyden Christensons bad acting never could, heh.

I think this is one of the reasons Lucas is afraid to actually do the last 6 episodes. He says its because of people being too critical. I dont believe it. I think its because those last 6 books would be tough to justify the same way he did the first 6, once the balance starts to shift toward evil, everyone appears to have flaws they didnt have in the first movies, there not enough jar jars and chewies to turn it into something parents want to take their kids to.

SunderInc
08-14-2012, 02:17 PM
Drizzt is a dark elf in overrated books such as Icewind dale tril and Dark Elf series. His father was much more interesting. The writing is average. It's not M.Moorcock or S.Brust by any means. I think Elric killed Drizzt in one of his alternate worlds because the little elf had so many adaptions of his name on DDO servers. Elric sought him out with Stormbringer because he was bored and had no one else to kill. You know what I mean, you see players with Dryzzt, Drizzzzt, Drizzzzzzzt, Drizzzzzzzzzzt, Drizzzzzzzttt, Drizzzzzzztttttt etc...

Galeria
08-14-2012, 02:22 PM
I checked a few of the Drizzt books out of the library to read after starting to play this game. I made it through one and a half but the style of writing just didn't appeal to me.

They are huge bestsellers though on the NYT lists, so they obviously do appeal to a whole lot of people.

Tenlaar
08-14-2012, 02:38 PM
They are popcorn fantasy. It's not terribly deep, it's not hard to keep track of what's going on, they are just easy to read in an afternoon or two (and I think entertaining) kind of books.

Drizzt and Entreri fighting at the cave/cliff is still possibly the best written fight scene I have ever seen.

kierg10
08-14-2012, 03:17 PM
but in case it's not joke, Drizzt is probably the biggest name in D&D outside of Gary Gygax


f'real? co-founder of D&D Dave Arneson (who's middle name is Lance I'm pretty sure) anyone?

to say some book character is more well known than one of the co-founders of D&D is just bad....

also: FR has a nickname which is 'The Generic Realms' and it is quite an accurate nickname, and is probably why many people don't read FR stuff (read: they find the setting bland)

vegabond1969
08-14-2012, 03:19 PM
Nice pic.... Too Bad drizzt was a drow :p

True someone needs to shop this and it would be close to perfect :D

Entelech
08-14-2012, 03:25 PM
For the cliff notes version:

Drizz't do'Urden is a character from a series of novels by R.A. Salvatore. He also put on some clown-white makeup and body-glitter to appear as Edward Cullen in the Twilight novels and movies.

Entelech
08-14-2012, 03:31 PM
also: FR has a nickname which is 'The Generic Realms' and it is quite an accurate nickname, and is probably why many people don't read FR stuff (read: they find the setting bland)

Actually, the reason our group hated it was all the broken, twinkish extra rules that came with the setting.

In-house, we were free to ignore all the "iconic" Mary-Sue characters that constantly showed up in the published adventures. Or hunt them down and kill them. (Mary Sue is a literary term that originated in fanfic, if you want to look it up. Elminster is possibly the ultimate example of a Mary Sue.)

goodspeed
08-14-2012, 07:41 PM
So people like Drizzt a little to much.
Drizzt and my son at GenCon 2011
http://www.rtnns.com/driz.jpg

ah gen con. Where actions don't bring uncomfortable situations on the street.

stretchcore
08-15-2012, 07:29 AM
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/all_drow_are_drizzt_1654.jpg
(just fyi, drow rangers suck in DDO)

Talias006
08-17-2012, 12:39 AM
to be fair we'll not run into drizzt anywhere near evening star or cormyr itself since its 20some years post spell plague. Maybe if we expand twoards waterdeep or atleast into lands west of mithril hall we might run into him and bruenor. Then again I suppose they can always find some way to crowbar him into a storyline, but right now, the time frame we're in, hes in the west with bruenor and maybe pwent is still with them. Ahh... yes.... actually... lets go west... I do so wish to run into pwent and see his reaction to a warforged lol.

Anyone care to try and come up with ddo damage dice on pwents head spike?

I'd say that Head Spike is Usable by Pwent (UMD: 0)
Damage: 3[D6]
Critical: 18-20/x4
Properties: Lacerating, Maiming
Natural 20: Rending (Tears victim a new hole to aerate themselves, like Vorpal but nastier. Almost kills, leaving the target to bleed out the next round, no save and no chance for redemption)


I'm not falling for THAT one again!

Oh! But Entreri lives! Sort of... (Haven't read the last book in the series yet.)

vegabond1969
08-17-2012, 05:23 AM
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/all_drow_are_drizzt_1654.jpg
(just fyi, drow rangers suck in DDO)

Just FYI, I have six of them that would argue that with you but this is for another time.