basic no frills monk

[Hobgoblin]

the original plan with this tr was 3 fighter, 3 pally, 3 ranger, 3 monk and back to human exploter.

i got 1 fighter, 1 pally, 2 ranger done and started on monk.

then i found out 2 things.

1) i have no idea how to build/play a monk.

2) monks are a frigging blast!


so i have this guy at almost 20 on a pure light horc monk and i want to use the free lr on him.

some of my feats may seem questionable, but thats why im posting this.

while i am not a noob, i am a newb to monks so please no hitting below the belt (bruises are ok though)

before i post it - could someone post the pros ands cons of light vrs dark now?

i know a lot of monks go wis based now - would that be benifical on this type of build?

my only requests in the build are this:

no telling me to reroll into a human/helf - this is the free lr so race is stuck with horc

please no telling me to tr -again. i want this guy to experiance epic destinies for a while before i tr.

ok here goes

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(20 Monk)
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 18

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 28
Dexterity 15 18
Constitution 15 18
Intelligence 8 11
Wisdom 15 23
Charisma 6 9

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
didnt put what i put levels in - not a lot of int so mostly just maxing con, then umd
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 8
Bluff -2 -1
Concentration 6 22
Diplomacy -2 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -2 -1
Heal 2 6
Hide 2 6
Intimidate -2 -1
Jump 4 9
Listen 2 6
Move Silently 2 6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 0
Spot 2 6
Swim 4 9
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 0 1

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision <- seemed the best of the worst choices for shintao


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Monk)


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility <-really not sure what to put here


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Mountains
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Oceans
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III




thanks guys

hob

[Hobgoblin]

anyone? :(

[SensaiRyu]

Looking at your enhancements...

Grand of Air instead of Water.
No hide/silent. Need void I at least for the clarity finisher.
No restoring the balance or difficulty at the beginning.

If you have left over enhancements put them into GM water if you want. Or more orc PA? I don't know orcs...

I like Void IV and use it when not running in GMoF (which is most of the time).

I'm not getting into light vs dark. I've had both. Darks need wraps to bypass metal-DR. Light have more moves than quickbar spaces. Both are fun.

Looking at your past lives, you may enjoy dark more. You have the feats for it already.

[flaggson]

I approve of your decision to not wear frills... ballerina monks have become an eyesore to the lands of eberron.



Ok now seriously the only think that jumped out to me was the mobility feat, while I can justify wanting more dodge, I would also be considering things like Improved sunder for that slot, as it is pretty handy for a monk.... it lowers fort save, and lowers fortification, pretty handy.

Overall though looks really solid to me.

[edgarallanpoe]

Essential monk feats...

TWF
ITWF
GTWF
PA (especially with Horc)
Cleave (a lot of epic destiny Dreadnaught enhancements require cleave)
SF
IC: Bludg
Toughness

The last feat used to be Improved Sunder but now it isn't so clear...

With the addition of the new epic feat Overwhelming Crit, improved Sunder should probably be replaced with Greater Cleave because OC needs it as a prerequisite.

Just my humble opinion...

I have a 22nd level Horc and the above will *definitely* be the way I go. At 21 I took Improved Martial Arts.

[unbongwah]

Have you given any thought to your epic feats? The obvious choices are Improved Martial Arts, Overwhelming Critical, and Vorpal Strikes. IMA is easy to take, as it has no pre-reqs besides lvl 12 monk. The problem with OC is it requires Cleave, GC, and Weap Focus (and IC which you already have); fortunately you already have Power Atk and Cleave qualifies for Shintao. So maybe do: TWF x3, IC:B, Stunning Fist, PA, Cleave, GC, WF:B, OC:B, IMA; with one feat left for Toughness, Precision, Stunning Blow, or Imp Sunder, I think.

[SensaiRyu]

With the addition of the new epic feat Overwhelming Crit, improved Sunder should probably be replaced with Greater Cleave because OC needs it as a prerequisite.

OC also requires a str of 23. And with vorpal strikes bugged atm, it's probably a better choice.