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Khurse
07-15-2012, 09:36 PM
Thought I read that it was, but my 20 Rogue/5 Shadowdancer doesn't seem to add it in.

My SA is listed at 23d6
10d6 -Rogue 20
3d6 - Assassin 3
4d6 - Capstone
5d6 - 5 Shadowdancer
= 22d6

So it looks like I'm only getting 1d6 from the ISA.
Or I'm completely oblivious and missing something obvious.

Answers either way (not working/missing something obvious) welcome.

baletraeger
07-15-2012, 09:44 PM
Would not be surprised if something isn't stacking with the shadowdancer SA dice

Rauven
07-16-2012, 12:53 AM
Thought I read that it was, but my 20 Rogue/5 Shadowdancer doesn't seem to add it in.

My SA is listed at 23d6
10d6 -Rogue 20
3d6 - Assassin 3
4d6 - Capstone
5d6 - 5 Shadowdancer
= 22d6

So it looks like I'm only getting 1d6 from the ISA.
Or I'm completely oblivious and missing something obvious.

Answers either way (not working/missing something obvious) welcome.

Shadowdancer 5 is 6d6. It's +1d6 per tier including 0. If I remember reading correctly ISA isn't stacking, though I'm not sure with what it isn't stacking. You could try to figure it out by swapping destiny and resetting your enhancements. Pure rogue without PrE and ED and with ISA should have 13d6. Then add back in your PrE and ED and see when it doesn't stack.

I don't have ISA or else I'd test it myself.

MalarKan
07-16-2012, 03:36 PM
APARENTLY its not stacking with the capstone, since my pure Acrobat rogue while Ldreadnought states it has just 14d6 Sneak attack dices in the feats tab.

So, either Improved Sneak Attack doesnt stack with capstone... or plain base rogue SA dices? which would be bad

Qezuzu
07-16-2012, 05:34 PM
It isn't functioning.

I tested it. No enhancements, ISA taken, no active destiny, 10d6 damage. It's not that it's not stacking, it's that it isn't doing anything. Period. That, or it's not stacking with inherent rogue dice, but there's no way to know that.

DnD3
07-16-2012, 06:22 PM
Negative, my SA with the capstone seems to be hitting for the eighties most of the time, like it always has, so I highly doubt it is working correctly, more reason to hit that "report button" like it owes you money I guess, now if only they read our bug reports..

HidalgoXaran
07-16-2012, 10:35 PM
For my part, I have seen a huge deference in my SA damage since last hotfix. I was usually hitting in the 80s and afterward, was more on th 120s.

I can't confirm with an image and I haven't tested if those damages could come from elsewhere. Still, those big 3 number SA damage were ridiculously making me happy.

By the way, I'm a pure capped rogue with lvl 5 shadowdancer (could be that...)

HidalgoXaran

bringjoy
08-02-2012, 04:09 PM
Our ED line is nice, there are some fun toys, but our epic moment and high level tiers pale in comparison to other EDs. It would be ridiculous (but devs have no love of Rogues so I could believe it) that ISA doesn't stack with other rogue SA dice. It should stack with ALL of them to be of any use when you consider all the things at epic level that u can't use SA on.

Has anyone seen a dev comment on this or other confirmation one way or another?

SableShadow
08-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Has anyone seen a dev comment on this or other confirmation one way or another?

This thread over here.


A fix went in for this for Patch 2 but it failed regression (i.e. QA found that it wasn't really fixed) and it's back in the engineer's hands for U15.

EDIT: Just noticed Eladrin's comment above.