Epic Devil assault and token fragments.

[Munkenmo]

<\Player>:9 Epic Dungeon Token Fragments
<\Player>: 7 Epic Dungeon Token Fragments
<\Player>:9 Epic Dungeon Token Fragments
<\Player>:8 Epic Dungeon Token Fragments

Tokens in the end chest for myself and other party members on EPIC HARD.

This is not enough, this quest was changed to have two full tokens due to the abysmal loot.

Change it back to 2, the loot is still abysmal.

[GimpyPaw]

I agree. For those without the new pack these changes are a huge Fk U. Epic hard Chrono, myself and 9 other party members got 0 tokens or fragments from the end chest. Ran epic hard DA twice and epic norm DA once yesterday, got probably 25 token frags from all three runs together. At the current rate of grinding for tokens I'll be able to slot that disease immunity upgrade in about 14 months.

[danotmano1998]

At the current rate of grinding for tokens I'll be able to slot that disease immunity upgrade in about 14 months.

Save yourself the trouble. That slot immunity item is now a measly +6.
You can find +10's in random junk loot in the new stuff in 5 minutes.
Same with poison immunity.


I am not particularly thrilled about getting token drops nerfed as badly as they are, but that's not what annoyed me the most. I can understand that now since we'll be running epics daily without timers, these had to be dropped some to compensate, so I won't argue the necessity of this much.

What took the cake was when 7 of us ran Epic Hard Demon Queen and only 2 epic raid tokens dropped... :(
*sigh*

[twigzz]

Save yourself the trouble. That slot immunity item is now a measly +6.
You can find +10's in random junk loot in the new stuff in 5 minutes.
Same with poison immunity.


I am not particularly thrilled about getting token drops nerfed as badly as they are, but that's not what annoyed me the most. I can understand that now since we'll be running epics daily without timers, these had to be dropped some to compensate, so I won't argue the necessity of this much.

What took the cake was when 7 of us ran Epic Hard Demon Queen and only 2 epic raid tokens dropped... :(
*sigh*

Yeah I don't see why raids changed, you still have to wait 3 days. At least should get full tokens for raids.

[Feather_of_Sun]

Looks like Epic Devil Assault's rewards aren't scaling properly with the difficulty. It's always treating it as Epic Casual. This will be fixed in Update 15 at the latest.

[mutilador]

Looks like Epic Devil Assault's rewards aren't scaling properly with the difficulty. It's always treating it as Epic Casual. This will be fixed in Update 15 at the latest.

I did an Epic hard Lord of the Blades last night and got an air spirit (tier1) in the opt chest. is it WAI?

[Shade]

I did an Epic hard Lord of the Blades last night and got an air spirit (tier1) in the opt chest. is it WAI?

Given how much of a joke that raid is difficulty wise, i'd say so.

Tier3 was always meant to a extreme challenge, and small upgrade for dedicated raiders, the majority of the weapon/shields power are front loaded in t1/2.

Sub maximum difficulties always previously offered both regular and refined spirits, not exquisits. So seems the same, a guildie mentioned refined did drop on hard. Though we'll have to check EELoB to be sure about exquisits.

[Munkenmo]

Given how much of a joke that raid is difficulty wise, i'd say so.

Tier3 was always meant to a extreme challenge, and small upgrade for dedicated raiders, the majority of the weapon/shields power are front loaded in t1/2.

Sub maximum difficulties always previously offered both regular and refined spirits, not exquisits. So seems the same, a guildie mentioned refined did drop on hard. Though we'll have to check EELoB to be sure about exquisits.

i think you missed the point, the elemental spirits did not used to drop in the optional chests.

[Shade]

i think you missed the point, the elemental spirits did not used to drop in the optional chests.

um no.. They always droped in the optional chest, and infact ONLY in the optional chest.

Maybe for some reason your thinking the objective:
(Optional) Elemental Binding: Defeat the Elementals in each binding chamber. (Slay 4) (10% of base XP)

isn't an optional..

But it very much is. It's neccesary to open the elemental spirits chest.

[Munkenmo]

um no.. They always droped in the optional chest, and infact ONLY in the optional chest.

Maybe for some reason your thinking the objective:
(Optional) Elemental Binding: Defeat the Elementals in each binding chamber. (Slay 4) (10% of base XP)

isn't an optional..

But it very much is. It's neccesary to open the elemental spirits chest.

good point, i never ever even thought to look at it that way, given the spirits are the reason i run the raid.

[Kaldais]

You also need to relook at Epic Elite Devil Assult, the difficulty level is out of wack, tried to run it with a comptent group last night, 4 level 24s all maxed epic destinies, and 2 level 22s with 4th tier EDs. We couldn't get pass the 2nd wave. Devils were getting danced for no more than 2-3seconds with 45-48DC with mind fog active, and no we were passing all their SRs, it's their save are way too high. A 51DC necro cannot install kill a CR 48 devil after 2 energy drains, and that's a non-orange name folder. At pre-U14 stage 1-3waves have 108-120 mob, the new EE DA 1st wave have 93 spawns.

[Tirisha]

Looks like Epic Devil Assault's rewards aren't scaling properly with the difficulty. It's always treating it as Epic Casual. This will be fixed in Update 15 at the latest.

It's not just the rewards that aren't scaling ;)

[Sydril]

Looks like Epic Devil Assault's rewards aren't scaling properly with the difficulty. It's always treating it as Epic Casual. This will be fixed in Update 15 at the latest.

It would seem a large portion if not all epic content is affected in this way. Most quests on epic hard and elite are giving 15-30 fragments tops in the end chests.