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StarfishDDO
06-27-2012, 08:50 AM
I just noticed this feat amongst the many new ones in my Unavailable section and after reading it was excited to see Bard got a nice big love with that song. It said Feat Required is; Inspire Heroics. it then later says in the feat Requires 20 trained ranks to use. Now I'm just wondering is this an Epic feat or a normal feat? I just hit 17, so therefore my ranks are now at 20. But I cannot use this song?!

Anyone else noticed this?

threefeetunder
06-27-2012, 08:52 AM
I just noticed this feat amongst the many new ones in my Unavailable section and after reading it was excited to see Bard got a nice big love with that song. It said Feat Required is; Inspire Heroics. it then later says in the feat Requires 20 trained ranks to use. Now I'm just wondering is this an Epic feat or a normal feat? I just hit 17, so therefore my ranks are now at 20. But I cannot use this song?!

Anyone else noticed this?

It's an epic feat, so can only be taken at lvl 21 or 24.

StarfishDDO
06-27-2012, 08:53 AM
Man! That sucks, was really looking forward to being in a nice 20 shroud, with just dropping down +4 con to everyone :/ It's immediately less effective when it comes to Epics imo :(

Sad to hear this! Why have the stupid ranks at 20 rather than 24?!

threefeetunder
06-27-2012, 09:06 AM
Man! That sucks, was really looking forward to being in a nice 20 shroud, with just dropping down +4 con to everyone :/ It's immediately less effective when it comes to Epics imo :(

Sad to hear this! Why have the stupid ranks at 20 rather than 24?!

multiclassed bards :)

MrToby
06-28-2012, 05:39 AM
It's also worth of mention that the bonus is competence, just like exceptional stats on items, so if someone already had +3 exc, it would only be a +1 upgrade.

I wonder if this is a reason to neglect exceptional stat items if you always or usually get a bard for your raids.

phalaeo
06-28-2012, 07:13 PM
It's also worth of mention that the bonus is competence, just like exceptional stats on items, so if someone already had +3 exc, it would only be a +1 upgrade.

I wonder if this is a reason to neglect exceptional stat items if you always or usually get a bard for your raids.

Beyond "regular" stat items, there are now +1 Exceptional, +2 Insight, and +3 Insight. Inspire Excellence should stack.

I know that my Bard has +2 Insight (used to be called +2 Exceptional) STR, and she got the full bonus when I played Inspire Excellence:Strength this afternoon.

I'll check again once Argo is back up, but I'm almost 100% sure.

threefeetunder
06-28-2012, 08:14 PM
It's also worth of mention that the bonus is competence, just like exceptional stats on items, so if someone already had +3 exc, it would only be a +1 upgrade.

I wonder if this is a reason to neglect exceptional stat items if you always or usually get a bard for your raids.

Only the +1 exceptional are competence, the +2 and +3's are insight, so it would be a +3 upgrade if someone has that +1.

ZeebaNeighba
06-28-2012, 08:33 PM
Only the +1 exceptional are competence, the +2 and +3's are insight, so it would be a +3 upgrade if someone has that +1.Heard that the +1 exceptional not stacking is a bug also but I would think it would be easy fix so I'm not sure any more.