Pure tank build, Viable?

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With a Defender of sibryes intimitank would you need to do damage to keep agro on you? Or would the Hate multiplier be suficient with intimidate to keep agro? I have a build right now that will do next to no damage but will be able to tank if he can keep agro...If...

EDIT: This is the build i have. i plan on haveing a few guards to increase agro on me to make up for the low DPS (Crushing wave and corrosive salt for sure, Trying to get more if i can), The cleric dillie is for scroll/wand use

I know how people feel about sheild mastery/Improved sheild mastery. I know that improved doesnt add much, But i still want it.

I worked this around my current main as a possible TR Choice, Thats why theres a fighter and ranger past life as well as the 3 random tomes. Those are the ones he currently has

To be perfectly honest im not looking for input on the build, Im not trying to be rude or stuck up when i say that, But im just not looking for it. I pretty much just want to know if ill be able to keep agro with those guards and a low DPS Weapon as well as my intimidate with this build





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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(2 Fighter \ 18 Paladin)
Hit Points: 446
Spell Points: 284
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 29
Reflex: 15
Will: 17

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 14 18
Dexterity 10 10
Constitution 16 22
Intelligence 10 10
Wisdom 14 14
Charisma 16 20

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 0 0
Bluff 3 5
Concentration 3 15
Diplomacy 3 5
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 5
Heal 2 2
Hide 0 0
Intimidate 7 28
Jump 2 4
Listen 2 2
Move Silently 0 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 0
Search 0 0
Spot 2 4
Swim 2 4
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 5 16.5

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Warrior of the Wild
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Undying Call


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Redemption I


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good III


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
Enhancement: Paladin Redemption II

[Wipey]

Absolutely not viable. The last you are going to tank with 10 strength and dexterity and level ups in charisma are Waterworks kobolds. Search the forums for paladin or defender of Siberys threads , there are many.

[unbongwah]

With a Defender of sibryes intimitank would you need to do damage to keep agro on you?
Yes.

Or would the Hate multiplier be suficient with intimidate to keep agro?
400% * <very low DPS> is still a dang small number...

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Yes.

400% * <very low DPS> is still a dang small number...

True, I decided to go helf for the extra intimidate, even if it is a 60 second cooldown its stil another Oh**** button for agro. Decided i would get some damage on my guy to... Another thing i was wondering about is would guards (Corrosive salt for example) Generate hate? I plan on getting a few of those from my DT/GS, depending on what i get if they do generate hate i could probably be alright with some minor adjustments to my build. I would need tweak it for damage either way but it just depends on how much

[Bilger]

True, I decided to go helf for the extra intimidate, even if it is a 60 second cooldown its stil another Oh**** button for agro. Decided i would get some damage on my guy to... Another thing i was wondering about is would guards (Corrosive salt for example) Generate hate? I plan on getting a few of those from my DT/GS, depending on what i get if they do generate hate i could probably be alright with some minor adjustments to my build. I would need tweak it for damage either way but it just depends on how much

Why not post your build so people have a good idea what you are talking about and can make better suggestions that may or may not help you!!!

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Why not post your build so people have a good idea what you are talking about and can make better suggestions that may or may not help you!!!

Well maybe later, im remakeing it at the moment. But the purpose of this post was to see if i could keep agro with only intim, which turned out to be no. Ill post my build once its compleated.

[shadowowl]

my first 'tank' was a pure paly intim tank it was actually kind of funny I remember tanking groups np but I'll never forget my first attempt to tank a raid with it. ran out there thinking I was all that with my 65ac (this was a few years ago before epics so 65 was actually not bad lol) hit Intim grabbed boss agro and died almost instantly lol Tr'd into a dps paly

[unbongwah]

In the old days, you could "Intimiturtle:" i.e., spam Intim & shield-block your way thru a fight. It was a pretty boring tactic, IMHO, but it worked (sometimes). But once Turbine increased the timer on Intim to 15 secs, that no longer works. Fortunately, they also added (eventually) the hate bonuses from using a shield to compensate for the lower DPS of S&B builds.

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In the old days, you could "Intimiturtle:" i.e., spam Intim & shield-block your way thru a fight. It was a pretty boring tactic, IMHO, but it worked (sometimes). But once Turbine increased the timer on Intim to 15 secs, that no longer works. Fortunately, they also added (eventually) the hate bonuses from using a shield to compensate for the lower DPS of S&B builds.

Thats what i was actuly planning to do, i remember those days and those builds. Only recently found out about increased intim timer. So that wont work lol