/Ragequitting DDO!

[Bacab]

/Ragequitting DDO is just kinda silly.

If you want to stop playing or play less...then play less.

If you are unhappy with the way the game is going...you can unsubscribe if you like and go Premium.

BUT if you are Premium...you don't have to quit. Just quit buying stuff.

This game unlike other "investments" does not have a resale value.
*If you bought a boat and decided that you just can not use it enough to justify owning it...you sell it.
**If no one bought it, you would not just throw it away.
*If you feel kinda frustrated with the direction of the game that is understandable, but you don't have to quit or make a drama post.

If some of these changes do go live that they seem to have planned...I will find myself playing less and less.
My example is soloing.
I work graveyard shift so I play in the morning when I get off work to unwind before bed.
If I can not find stuff to do quickly...the game is not as appealing to me as it once was.
If that happens...I will just play less. No need to quit. I just will play a lot less.

This game is not Black and White. You don't have to be "all in" (unless you are in a psycho guild that requires like 60 hours a week...but that is another discussion). Find that nice healthy grey area.

~A Friendly bit of Advice from a recovering Video Game Addict
~Your Pal, Bacab

[Ugumagre]

Okay...then /rageplayless would be OK?

[ainmosni]

edited because what i posted didnt make any sense.

[Saravis]

The problem is, for something like this financial backing isn't the only element for defining the games success, there is also popularity.

If the game is played by a lot of people then Turbine is going to believe that the decisions they're making towards the game are popular.
Additionally, if everyone, who is playing the game, remains silent, then Turbine is going to believe that everything is dandy.

While there are a lot of /ragequitters that are overdramatic and/or talking with excrement in their mouth, there are many who have an honest and understandable concern with the game. They are vocalizing their opinion so that Turbine knows that they have an issue and what the issue is, leaving the game then further establishes the seriousness of that issue.

[Grace_ana]

Okay...then /rageplayless would be OK?

What about /temporarilybutreallybusyplayless? I prefer to take my rage out on puggers, and playing less seems to make that difficult.

[silence383]

I say there needs to be a DDO rage/quit layaway plan. You can impress your friends, thumb your nose at ddo and rage against the machine..till the game changes again in 3-4 more updates (in which so many people over 5 years I see come back). In the mean time you can secretly stockpile points :) And this is not a pun against those who genuinely feel the game is not for them anymore. It's for the rest :)

[pec]

What exactly is in the expansion that makes oldtimers ragequit?

[Bacab]

edited because what i posted didnt make any sense.

You wrote...

/rageplayranger

Didn't ya!?

[evilgijoe]

nda doesnt allow anyone to tell you.but remember,any change is always dooooooom!!

[Memnir]

This thread didn't turn out like I thought it would!!!
I'm outta here, and I'm never looking back! In fact, I'm going to contact my legal representation to see about getting a refund of my time back.

[Bacab]

This thread didn't turn out like I thought it would!!!
I'm outta here, and I'm never looking back! In fact, I'm going to contact my legal representation to see about getting a refund of my time back.

Lawyer to get time back?

You need a Doctor.

Doctor Emmett Brown!
http://www.loxlee-loves-engines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/emmett-brown.jpg

[Aurora1979]

The problem is, for something like this financial backing isn't the only element for defining the games success, there is also popularity.

If the game is played by a lot of people then Turbine is going to believe that the decisions they're making towards the game are popular.
Additionally, if everyone, who is playing the game, remains silent, then Turbine is going to believe that everything is dandy.

While there are a lot of /ragequitters that are overdramatic and/or talking with excrement in their mouth, there are many who have an honest and understandable concern with the game. They are vocalizing their opinion so that Turbine knows that they have an issue and what the issue is, leaving the game then further establishes the seriousness of that issue.

In theory yes, but I can't remember 1 change Tubs made directly due to someones ragequit thread.

[Starchild09]

The fact causing some people to quit isn't necessarily what is or isn't in the expansion, but more importantly the way Turbine chooses to ignore concerns when they are voiced. Or the way Turbine deletes posts when those concerns are voiced and they don't agree with the tone in which they are voiced.

Nevermind the endless hours the person voicing said concerns might have spent going about the appropriate channels only to see no results. Nevermind the fact that they may have had to retype the same message repeatedly to get it to post to the forums before Turbine could auto-log them out of the forums, and the increasing level of frustration caused by said auto-logging out that may have been more prevalently displayed each time they had to retype said post.

Let's just treat the person like a ragequitting idiot and not try to see things from their side of the issue for a single second...or at least that's how you all treated me.

You all need to remember that EVERY story has multiple sides, and until you have walked a mile in the shoes of the person you're condemning (meaning their EXACT circumstances, not what you feel is similar), you have absolutely no idea of exactly what their side is.

You'd think in 2012 this world would have a little more compassion and understanding for others and what they are going through!

My decision to quit was NOT based on the expansion beta, but on Turbine's blatant ignoring of anything I reported as an issue. Whether it was the issue I was having in beta, the wipe of my characters from a single server, the wipe of my characters from an entire account, etc...

I (personally) felt that the game (and subsequently dealing in ANY way, shape or form with Turbine) has become a source of aggrivation and a waste of my time and money. Therefore, after having (as stated above) to attempt MULTIPLE times to post, getting auto-logged out after clicking the SUBMIT button, having to retype said post and then go through this entire process between 4 and 5 times to get a post to actually make it to the forums, I simply decided to end the source of the stress. No playing the game, no dealing with Turbine, no trace of DDO software left on my computer and no plan to rejoin the game equates to a much calmer and less aggrivated Starchild.

I'm not saying some of my posts were not inappropriate, but I am saying that I don't think a single one of you would have not gotten to the same point if you had had to walk a mile in my shoes and deal with the assorted array of c r a p I have had to deal with just to simply get my concerns posted and heard. The funny thing is, none opf you heard them anyway because you were too busy condemning my tone instead of reading the issues I was bringing up.

I sincerely hope none of these issues get to live or affect any of you in any way, but as I won't be playing, I just can't find the energy or desire to care anymore. :)

[Bacab]

I don't know who you are.

I am not trying to insult you.

I did not make this thread because of you.

I have had the forums log me out too.

I Copy/Paste anything that is long in case it logs me out.

I can understand where you are coming from.

But what would it hurt to just step away and take a 1-2 week break.

Heck I took about a 2 year break and an 18 month break. I had grinded all the content at those times.

You are obviously upset...so I would definitely say "Stay away from the game until it is not a source of frustration". But you don't have to deal with absolutes.

There is one guy on the forums...who has "quit" like 5 times in the last 5 weeks...yet still pops in to insult people in their threads. eVery time he does he just strikes me as someone trying to conVince others to also quit. This guy just generally makes a fool of himself...eVen if he has some Valid points. eVery thread he joins now...people point out that he has /ragequitted oVer and oVer again.

You don't have to do that. We can vote with our pocketbooks/wallets and our time.

But seriously, this is a great game...but it will have its ups and downs.

Turbine has actually responded to our constructive criticism. If you want some cloak and dagger game maker...play a Square Enix MMO...those guys are awful...

Anyway, Paul Stanley...I hope this message finds you in a better mood later.

[Algreg]

yes, being dissatisfied with a computer game totally demands for the world´s compassion. Also, infuriated phantasies about sueing a company over a 70 bucks preorder product that even hasn´t turned out to be dysfunctional absolutely has to win adult and sensible people for your cause.

[Kakashi67]

yes, being dissatisfied with a computer game totally demands for the world´s compassion. Also, infuriated phantasies about sueing a company over a 70 bucks preorder product that even hasn´t turned out to be dysfunctional absolutely has to win adult and sensible people for your cause.

You forgot raging over minor beta issues...

[Hambo]

I say there needs to be a DDO rage/quit layaway plan. You can impress your friends, thumb your nose at ddo and rage against the machine..till the game changes again in 3-4 more updates (in which so many people over 5 years I see come back). In the mean time you can secretly stockpile points :) And this is not a pun against those who genuinely feel the game is not for them anymore. It's for the rest :)

Wouldn't this be more of a "/ragepike"?

The player executing this option is like the one entering the quest and staying, AFK, at the entrance... There for the XP and perhaps a chest or two but not contributing to thae game at all :D

[Hambo]

I don't know who you are.

I am not trying to insult you.

I did not make this thread because of you.

I have had the forums log me out too.

I Copy/Paste anything that is long in case it logs me out.

I can understand where you are coming from.

But what would it hurt to just step away and take a 1-2 week break.

Heck I took about a 2 year break and an 18 month break. I had grinded all the content at those times.

You are obviously upset...so I would definitely say "Stay away from the game until it is not a source of frustration". But you don't have to deal with absolutes.

There is one guy on the forums...who has "quit" like 5 times in the last 5 weeks...yet still pops in to insult people in their threads. eVery time he does he just strikes me as someone trying to conVince others to also quit. This guy just generally makes a fool of himself...eVen if he has some Valid points. eVery thread he joins now...people point out that he has /ragequitted oVer and oVer again.

You don't have to do that. We can vote with our pocketbooks/wallets and our time.

But seriously, this is a great game...but it will have its ups and downs.

Turbine has actually responded to our constructive criticism. If you want some cloak and dagger game maker...play a Square Enix MMO...those guys are awful...

Anyway, Paul Stanley...I hope this message finds you in a better mood later.

I see what you did there :)

[DeadRabbat]

i just can't find the energy or desire to care anymore. :)

dr.

[Missing_Minds]

Lawyer to get time back?

You need a Doctor.

Doctor Emmett Brown!
http://www.loxlee-loves-engines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/emmett-brown.jpg

Who.

[Saravis]

In theory yes, but I can't remember 1 change Tubs made directly due to someones ragequit thread.

Nor can I, but theory or no theory, if a mass of people are quitting and being vocal about the reason, then Turbine will be quite quick to fix the issue, unless they want the game to die.

[Ape_Man]

/rage spend-less is probably the most likely scenario. I'll going from buying points whenever the big bundle is on sale to pretty much never.

[kauetomaz]

There is one guy on the forums...who has "quit" like 5 times in the last 5 weeks...yet still pops in to insult people in their threads. eVery time he does he just strikes me as someone trying to conVince others to also quit. This guy just generally makes a fool of himself...eVen if he has some Valid points. eVery thread he joins now...people point out that he has /ragequitted oVer and oVer again.


LOL. work of genious ;p

[Kakashi67]

There is one guy on the forums...who has "quit" like 5 times in the last 5 weeks...yet still pops in to insult people in their threads. eVery time he does he just strikes me as someone trying to conVince others to also quit. This guy just generally makes a fool of himself...eVen if he has some Valid points. eVery thread he joins now...people point out that he has /ragequitted oVer and oVer again.

VoilÃ*! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me ...V...

[MacRighteous]

They are all drama queens and a bit immature - no?

Rage quitting is the same of saying "screw you Im taking my marbles and going home" - spoiled - entitled - sissies - if you ask me - and to make it public is just one last plea for attention.

I think that they are better off with out DDO in their lives and DDO is better off with out them - because if it wasn't this - they would be whining about that - its always something and it just sucks the fun and life out of everything.

If you cant find the enjoyment anymore just log off and be done with it - no need to bring everyone down... to delete all your toons and then quit is just as stupid - i have walked away from MMO's for a year before - and came back to them - and jezzzz i was glad i didn't delete everything when I returned...

get a grip

MacR

[Bacab]

VoilÃ*! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it’s my very good honor to meet you and you may call me ...V...

LoVe that moVie.

V for Vendetta.

Anytime that moVie is brought up...its a +1 in my book.

[Aurora1979]

Nor can I, but theory or no theory, if a mass of people are quitting and being vocal about the reason, then Turbine will be quite quick to fix the issue, unless they want the game to die.

Maybe, but you don't need to do that. keep playing the game but stop spending money on it, or take a break for a while.

Both will, I assume, show up on some stat report somewhere. Coming on the forum and having a big rage quit on the floor doesn't achieve much. Especially if you are really invested in this game and don't want to leave but do want some things sorted.

Dont get me wrong, I know everything is far from rosey and I do know that turbine have listened to people in the past, especially vocal and well debated thread topics.

[Starchild09]

IF Turbine had listened (or even just acknowledged that the issues I had reported were there), then I woud no have quit the game OR made a public show of what was going on. It was their refusal to do so, and subsequent lying about said issues ALREADY having been fixed, that was the straw that broke my back.

I can't speak for others, but in my case let me lay out the past few years for you:

DDO goes f2p beta = my toons got wiped on Sarlona (my primary server of choice at the time)

DDO foes f2p live = my toons got wiped from ALL servers

June 2010 = Turbine bills my debit card a month before my renewal date (while I was between jobs and AFTER I had already called customer care to tell them to cancel the next billing cycle), sending my bank account into a negative balance and creating a bit of a mess for me to straighten out

January 2011 = My primary character on Argonnessen mysteriously gets deleted, a problem which Turbine will fix for a price, which they were mysteriously unable to do

June 2011 = Same thing happens to my main character on Sarlona

May 2012 = I see issues in stage one of beta for the expansion pack. I bug report them, I talk to devs about them and I post calmly about them in the forums. Bug reports get no reply. Talks to devs get no reply. Posts mysteriously get deleted. Same for stages 2 and 3. Strangely, I also start getting auto-logged out from the forums when I hit the "Submit Post" button, taking 4-5 tries to get a single post through (which also equates to the rage-filled tone of a few of those posts). Players start being hateful because of the tone of my posts (despite my explanations of said tone), posts start getting closed or deleted without any resolution to the issues. I notice a nasty spike in blood pressure and aggrivation levels at even the mere thought of logging into beta, resulting in my deleting characters and all traces of Turbine software on my computer.

Today = I'm not missing DDO at all. I still keep an eye on the forums to see if the devs (and other players) treat others the way they did me, but I refuse to let Turbine make another penny off of me. I'll add the occasional post here and there as I see a place where I can offer insight or advice, but the odds of me coming back to the game are extremely miniscule. It would take a miracle (translation: an actual apology from Turbine for the past few YEARS of aggrivation) to get me to even consider allowing their software back on my machine. Especially when there are other games (both f2p and non) where the devs actually listens and the fellow players actually appreciate the concerns of a player being voiced.

The immediate reaction on these forums that someone is "whining" or "being a drama queen" is one of judgement and prejudice. Just because YOU have not experienced the same issues as that person, does NOT mean they don't exist...it just means you have been lucky not to run into it yourself. Try to remember that the next time you feel the need to belittle someone's post. By belittling them (also called bullying), you lower yourself. There are enough bullies in the real world, they're not needed here as well.

[Bacab]

Is it possible your wife or girlfriend deleted your toons?

Not joking...just a question.

The auto log-off from forums most likely is not a "Turbine" thing but a web browser thing. Since I updated Firefox it was a problem for me...then with the newer firefox update...its not longer a problem. Go figure.

What I am getting at it...just step away from the game.

About 2 years ago I quit for a year and a half when *I* accidentally sold all my green steel to a vendor (I hit the add all and then it lagged) and I lost about 25 Large Scales worth or Green Steel on a my favorite toon.

I never posted anything. I just left because I was just kinda bummed. But before that incident, I was playing less and less and I was burnt out. The whole having my gear vendored was just an excuse to take a break.

Once I came back to the game (about 6 months ago)...I was welcomed back to the community with open arms. A lot of people send me PMs on the forums and a lot of people sent me /tells in the game welcoming me back.

The key, is to not burn bridges.

I am not going to plead with you to stay playing DDO. It is obvious a source of frustration for you. But in the future maybe you could learn something from this experience and maybe exit from ANY situation/job with more grace.

I really am not trying to condescending toward you. I just trying to offer some friendly advice because it appears to me that you may need some.

[Thrudh]

The funny thing is, none opf you heard them anyway because you were too busy condemning my tone instead of reading the issues I was bringing up.

This is a lesson you need to learn for life, not just video game forums. Tone matters. No one at work or in your family or down at the government office is going to listen to legitimate issues you bring up if your tone sucks.

[Thrudh]

Today = I'm not missing DDO at all. I still keep an eye on the forums to see if the devs (and other players) treat others the way they did me, but I refuse to let Turbine make another penny off of me.

This is what I don't understand... I've quit two MMOs before this one... And I was vocal on those boards too... But I when I quit, I just quit... I didn't post some big rage post, and I sure as heck didn't keep reading the forums.

Why do people quit, yet keep reading these forums?

[Missing_Minds]

Why do people quit, yet keep reading these forums?

Only guesses I have is that...
1. They like to have some form of drama in their life that they can "control."
2. In the back of their head they think that maybe... somehow... they can effect change.

[goodspeed]

can we /ragecheat by having an affair with gw2?

[Truga]

http://youtu.be/4ssxhRIdlYk


can we /ragecheat by having an affair with gw2?

Oh I'm so doing that. GW2 is all kinds of fun, but I doubt it'll completely replace DDO for me.

[Ungood]

I kinda like the rage-quit posts to be honest, it tells me that the person was passionate about the game they played and thus care about the direction/mistakes/bugs, etc that the game is going in.

On the same token, by the time they lambast a rage-quit post, they are borderline incomprehensible and it is near impossible to figure out what their "issue" is or was.

However, I don't think I will ever grasp the notion of "quitting the game, yet still hanging around on the forums" It just does not make any logical sense to do that. If you are going to quit, quit and be done with it, Do what normal people do, bad mouth DDO on the next game you are playing, like the people who came here from WoW do :D

[danotmano1998]

Sorry to hear your gaming experience is not working out for you here to your satisfaction. Hope you had a lot of fun while it was enjoyable!

On that note: Good luck and take care! Best wishes, and be sure to come back and post so we know how life turns out for you in the new game you choose to devote your time and money to.

Thanks for playing DDO!

[Zachski]

If your post is abusive to Turbine staff or other players, don't expect your post to be taken well.

On the other hand, if you are respectful, polite, and concise, expect your opinion to be memorable by both staff and other players.

For instance...

"I am leaving the game because of the falling damage bug. It has entirely ruined the experience for me. I did enjoy the game quite well, but unfortunately, this is too much for me. While I do appreciate the Turbine staff's efforts, it just isn't enough. I feel like they need to do more. So, I am sorry, and I wish you all the best, but I will be leaving. Maybe I'll come back, maybe I won't."

This is an example of a good quitting post. Sure, there will be some people being jerks about it, but the majority response will be more friendly... and with a lot more "Dangit, I'll miss ya" if you happen to be popular.

On the other hand, calling the Turbine staff pathetic, the game a mess, and/or insulting the other players will get a lot of derision, mockery, and then a thread delete because we have standards.

Also, in regards to the "you can just keep playing" comment... sure, you could, but how would Turbine know that it was any form of protest? Some of us Prems pay very erratically, or pay very rarely, and I don't think Turbine has account numbers memorized to remember "This Prem pays very often for things, this prem pays once in a blue moon".

[Ungood]

Also, in regards to the "you can just keep playing" comment... sure, you could, but how would Turbine know that it was any form of protest? Some of us Prems pay very erratically, or pay very rarely, and I don't think Turbine has account numbers memorized to remember "This Prem pays very often for things, this prem pays once in a blue moon".

I would like to note that Turbine knows exactly what you paid for, When you paid fr it, and how you paid for it.

However, if a player suddenly stopped buying stuff, Turbine would have no way to know why they stopped buying things.

[Zachski]

I would like to note that Turbine knows exactly what you paid for, When you paid fr it, and how you paid for it.

That was never in doubt. The only thing I was doubting is if Turbine staff memorized every single account number to keep track of its spending habits :D



However, if a player suddenly stopped buying stuff, Turbine would have no way to know why they stopped buying things.

And you got the point.

[Jasparion]

This is what I don't understand... I've quit two MMOs before this one... And I was vocal on those boards too... But I when I quit, I just quit... I didn't post some big rage post, and I sure as heck didn't keep reading the forums.

Why do people quit, yet keep reading these forums?

After I quit playing WoW I would look in from time to time, just to see if there was anything interesting happening. Even now, every few months I will go to one of the forums and check things out. I have no plans to go back, but I may one day.

I even got an email saying my account details had changed, looked in to it, and saw that it was legit. Went through the whole process of recovering stolen toons, lost loot/cash/etc. even though I have no plans to play. Simply because I may one day do it.

[Kakashi67]

This thread has been modded!

I'm /ragequitting!

Aw, who am I kidding?

I just can't quit you, DDO!

[ainmosni]

[green box] N/A lolz

[Starchild09]

There are numerous reasons why I still check the forums, the primary is that it has become a semi-daily habit to do so for the past 7 years.

It's almost like breathing. It's not that I consciously decide to come here, but once here I do enjoy reading the good experiences others have had and can sympathize with the bad ones.

It is not the game I disagree with, but the attitude take by the company that produces it. The solution for me was to stop playing and make my stand that way.

It would be the darkest day Turbine ever saw if I were to see another charge from them on my debit card after the LONG conversation I had with customer services over the phone. Otherwise, my primary complaint/concern is now a non-issue because I no longer play their product.

I don't have to worry about forum reputation/ettiquette, because after all what are they going to do? Ban me? I still have 3 other forum accounts I could come in and post from, and nothing to stop me from creating more should I feel strongly enough about a post to comment.

[Bacab]

There are numerous reasons why I still check the forums, the primary is that it has become a semi-daily habit to do so for the past 7 years.

It's almost like breathing. It's not that I consciously decide to come here, but once here I do enjoy reading the good experiences others have had and can sympathize with the bad ones.

It is not the game I disagree with, but the attitude take by the company that produces it. The solution for me was to stop playing and make my stand that way.

It would be the darkest day Turbine ever saw if I were to see another charge from them on my debit card after the LONG conversation I had with customer services over the phone. Otherwise, my primary complaint/concern is now a non-issue because I no longer play their product.

I don't have to worry about forum reputation/ettiquette, because after all what are they going to do? Ban me? I still have 3 other forum accounts I could come in and post from, and nothing to stop me from creating more should I feel strongly enough about a post to comment.

I really think WoW is a shi##y game. I will not be on their forums...because I have better things to do.

I would suggest you moving on with your life...or accepting DDO/Turbine (warts and all) and just play the game and understand that is is just that...a game. DDO should not be a way of life.

If Turbine turned off the servers tomorrow so "they could focus on LotR" I would not cry or anything. I would be disappointed...yes. But I would move on.

There are a glut of good MMO's out now. In fact I had a long talk today with a RL buddy who claims that the new Star Wars game is really good. Another buddy claims Diablo is really good. I may end up checking one or both of those out.

I do 100% get you checking in on the forums because...I still did that occasionally when I took my breaks.

Heck I feel: Forums>actually playing the game sometimes.

I would not keep posting though if my whole reason was to be disruptive and to troll (that's a lie...I still troll a lot).

On the forums, I try to be funny and try to help brighten peoples day(everyone appreciates a good laugh)...or help them with advice on things. Whether its advice on builds or what race to play (the correct answer is NEVER elf/drow). I even share some of my experiences with others in hopes that it may help give them some insight.

Either way, you have some vitriol toward Turbine and it may be understandable...but you are not really hurting Turbine. You are just hurting/annoying your fellow gamers.

[llyrnionfor]

I'm basically "on hold", at the moment.

I log in regularly, to keep my guild from getting penalties (we're a very small guild, where basically 3 people have taken us to level 73; since I'm not contributing much to that, the least I can do is keep from hampering their progress).

I'll run a quest now and then, just to see how it goes. But, between the brand new issues and the braindead hirelings (being mostly a soloer, hireling issues are BIG for me), I've been playing a lot less, these days.

I've got enough TPs to buy what I need, except maybe the new expansion (but that's not really in my plans right now, so it's not an issue). I've got VIP paid until Feb 2013. When I get there, I'll see how the game has evolved, what's the status on the issues that affect me, and I'll decide what to do.

If I had to make that decision today, I'd drop VIP.

[Daine]

If the game is making you angry over extended periods of time, its time to quit. There are other forms of entertainment, one of them probably wont make you angry; try something else. If you are concerned about the addictive nature of MMO's and your tendency to fall prey to it, give away your wealth and delete your characters, have a good rant on the forums on your way out, we love it and its cathartic for you!

Don't listen to those who might suggest that you just play less, or just stop spending and leave your account in a free to play mode. You know that means you'll just come back like a dog with its tail between its legs, looking up plaintively at its master for another feed and a kind pat on the head, or some new content and 5 epic levels. Go man, get out while you can, some of us can't leave, we're stuck here, gods help us. Turbine can add all the ponies and rainbows it wants and we'll never leave, get out while you can. There's no shame in beating gaming addiction; I wish I had your strength, I wish I could just head for the hills like you, but I'll just stand on the parapets of Stormreach and watch you wander off on that great adventure they call 'real life'.

Whoever of you may be thinking of /ragequitting, run! Run as fast as you can, delete everything, leave no characters or screenshots in your wake. Forget this world, we'll be the keepers of your memories, leave those to us as well; we're here till the end, they'll be safe with us. Forget the effort, the enterprise, the immersion. Forget your wins against all odds, the friendships you've forged, the laughs, the sweet joy of hard won victory all to be had at a whim. What's that? You've remembered a good time, a fun time? You've broken the rule. You've looked back. It's too late for you, you can't /ragequit, you're one of us, a lifer. It's not too bad you know, yeah, you know. What's life without a few addictions? Given the choice, would you come to end of yours squeaky clean, still lemony fresh or would you rather be with us 'worn thin', used up and having lived lifetimes while others wasted theirs on a bland diet of television and static MMOs that never change.

/Ragequitting, its harder than you think!

[Hambo]

That was never in doubt. The only thing I was doubting is if Turbine staff memorized every single account number to keep track of its spending habits :D

Computers are very good at keeping meticulous records of such things, you know :D
All the staff needs are mediocre computer skills to look anything up.

And you got the point.

In red.

[Ungood]

Either way, you have some vitriol toward Turbine and it may be understandable...but you are not really hurting Turbine. You are just hurting/annoying your fellow gamers.

Exactly!

I mean really, does anyone hope to accomplish by just hanging around the forums and being disruptive, do they honestly think that Turbine is going to suddenly start to care about what one disgruntled customer feels about their game when they have thousands of other people contently and happily playing their game?