Read LFM"S please I beg you

[~Quilny]

so lfm posted must have sound guy joins we get to quest I tell everyone send me tell saying (hello) find out 1 person doesnt have sound so i tell everyone over voice recall reform we do and guy who didn't get invited back starts cursing me and telling me he cannot have sound due to personel reasons and he really needed that quest on elite and im such a bad person.


This could of all been avoided if he would of just read LFM and not joined.

[Kingsburg]

Quilny how dare you expect people to be able to hear what you say as raid/party leader those expectations are way too high brother. way too high. your next lfm should just be blank and let everyone piek you are a completionist after are. you need to realize that people just plain suck and to not let it get to you.

if they start sending jerk tells just ignore them.

[Antheal]

Tell him he's a bad person for lying. He lied about having sound by the act of clicking your LFM.

[Gremmlynn]

Wow. I would have sent you a tell, but it would have been goodbye, not hello.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Wow. I would have sent you a tell, but it would have been goodbye, not hello.

I kind of agree here but the OP hasn't provided complete context. There's a few quests in the game where it is very important to have effective communication and perhaps this was one of those quests.

99% of quests, I could care less if someone has sound, I'll probably be halfway done with it before they even step in anyway. Other 1% ... yeah, handy to be able to communicate and important to know who can communicate (with mic or without).

I remember leading elite inferno of the damned for the first time in a new to the quest group following the wiki. Asked if everyone had sound, 2 people didn't, typed a quick question to determine if they would be able to respond quickly, they ignored my typed messages; /dismiss, smooth run in the end (though now when we do the quest in 6 minutes I guess it was slow but all good).

[DarkAlchemist]

I still remember this one person telling me (when I brought up that most people do not read my LFMs before clicking) that they don't read the lfms they just click them. I could say anything in my LFM and it doesn't matter.

Had a Madstone on hard up that said hard and it was for farming xp and someone finally joins then says "oh, sorry I need this on elite bye." I never did get the quest done.

So, expect that most will not read anything you put up on your LFMs and you will never be disappointed. :)

[Uma-Quixote]

Was in a guild led Hox run yesterday. The lfm clearly said have voice and speakers, and understand Engish...3 people joined and were subsequently booted when it quickly emerged they did not have speakers...
I mean, how hard is it?

[Dimbo]

No Offence to the OP of Course But....

I Have joined Such LFMs in the Past only to be Assaulted by....

Radio Teen Idiot FM with Resident DJ Satan McMetal.

OT.. The Guy should have Pre-Telled versus the LFM Requisites.

all the best
:D

[Nyxianne]

To all those that are going "OMG! Quests aren't that hard, he shouldn't have kicked that guy with no sound!" the thread isn't about that, the thread is about reading lfms! And I agree, when you click on an lfm that says must have ears, voice chat, etc, you should have the ability to hear voice chat! It's like joining an lfm that says be flagged and not being flagged for the quest! No one complains when someone boots for that.
I agree OP - people need to really start reading lfms! Too many just look for the highlighted group on the lfm board and click join.

[TrinityTurtle]

Reading the lfms doesn't always help. Last night I joined a lfm for stormcleave. someone shares stromvauld. Okay, not that unusul, some joker often shares the wrong quet to play a stupid prank and confuse people. So...five people go into stormcleave. I feel kinda annoyed at whoever pulled the prank for the sixth obviously went to stromvauld. then the group leader, who wrote the darn lfm, asks us all why we're not in the quest. He was the one who went into stromvauld. *blinks*

On a less odd note, I can't count how many lfm's I click where the leader hasn't bothered to update or change the info. Even those of us that do read the lfms arent safe from crazy!

[DarkAlchemist]

To all those that are going "OMG! Quests aren't that hard, he shouldn't have kicked that guy with no sound!" the thread isn't about that, the thread is about reading lfms! And I agree, when you click on an lfm that says must have ears, voice chat, etc, you should have the ability to hear voice chat! It's like joining an lfm that says be flagged and not being flagged for the quest! No one complains when someone boots for that.
I agree OP - people need to really start reading lfms! Too many just look for the highlighted group on the lfm board and click join.
Last life I had this guy come into my group and he had ears but when asked said he couldn't hear us because of his music and he wasn't going to turn down his music. By a vote we reformed around him.

[DarkAlchemist]

...On a less odd note, I can't count how many lfm's I click where the leader hasn't bothered to update or change the info....Seems to be happening more and more as of late and has happened to me three times this month alone. Normally I end up dropping the group because they forgot to mention they were IP and was at the last boss or "forgot" to say they were in a completely different quest than what was posted for, etc...

[Airgeadlam]

I kind of agree here but the OP hasn't provided complete context. There's a few quests in the game where it is very important to have effective communication and perhaps this was one of those quests.

We can or cannot understand the reasons to specify things on any LFM, but is the poster's choice. If he sets a LFM for Cannith Crystal with "Completionist only, must have sound, mic and sing me a lullaby to stay on group" we may as well think he has a mental condition, and not apply. But if we do apply, we must abide: being completionist,having sound, mic, and being ready to sing the lullaby. No matter how crazy the request is ("Apply only if you're a black man in your late 60s, with one wooden leg and Tourette's Syndrom") if we apply, we must meet it.

Also, sometimes people just add things to LFM panel to check if people applying can read/understand conditions.

To the OP... they read the LFMs. They just don't care. I was with this friend, farming Bloody Crypt. LFM as "BYOH, fast run, farming, know quest". One of applicants have a really odd build, low hp (truly low), etc. Since we didn't know him, my friend asks him one or two questions. When asked about if he knew that was a BYOH, to solo sides, this and that.. He said he knew, but he can't BYOH or solo sides, and that's why he joined the group. As in "I know I cannot meet what you ask for, but thought it was a good idea to come and pike".

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

I opened up my second or third PUG.

In the socialization winow, "Kobold Assault" was tagged as the quest I wanted to do.

I get an invite request (one of several, thankfully) (which I accepted), and then :

"Which quest ?"

Of this incident 2 points made me wonder :

- Did the person actually read my LFM ?
- If so, why this question ?
- If not, how did the person find out that I was looking for members, then ? And how did the person find me ?
- Another question I asked myself : Was the part of the LFM stating which quest I wanted to do somehow obscured or something ?

And, by the way, the almost-expected "Elite ?" was also among the questions.

And that, although my LFM had explicitely stated that I was going to do it on "Normal".

[PNellesen]

Have to side with OP on this one - If you can't be bothered to actually READ the LFM, don't be upset if you get kicked from the party if you can't (or even worse, WON'T) meet the criteria stated. If you don't understand what the leader is asking for, send them a /tell asking - the worst thing that'll happen is you won't get accepted; just wait for the next group for that quest or start your own.

[Burtle]

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[arkonas]

heh i love when people fail to read the lfms. worst part is when players dont ask questions and wonder why you get ****ed off at them

byoh= if ya dont know what it means just ask someone. dont go in and die wondering why you never got a heal

that was just one of the many examples im sure people dont listen to.

[Cendaer]

so lfm posted must have sound guy joins we get to quest I tell everyone send me tell saying (hello) find out 1 person doesnt have sound so i tell everyone over voice recall reform we do and guy who didn't get invited back starts cursing me and telling me he cannot have sound due to personel reasons and he really needed that quest on elite and im such a bad person.


This could of all been avoided if he would of just read LFM and not joined.

Before passing judgement on you (it's what you wanted, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this publicly), you will need to provide more information, such as which quest/raid you were about to run.

The reason being that all to often, I've joined parties where the leader requires voice chat to be enabled, and then when we get into the quest, the only thing the leader talks about over voice is everything under the sun EXCEPT for what's going on in the quest we're running.

So, yes, I'll need to know whether or not you wanted everyone's ears on just so you would have people to talk at, or if you actually had a valid need for everyone to be paying attention to every word you speak.

[Cyndrome]

Before passing judgement on you (it's what you wanted, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this publicly), you will need to provide more information, such as which quest/raid you were about to run.

...

So, yes, I'll need to know whether or not you wanted everyone's ears on just so you would have people to talk at, or if you actually had a valid need for everyone to be paying attention to every word you speak.

Regardless, it sounds like Quinly was just hoping that someone would not respond so that he could cause some drama. Of course, if I am not in the mood for a little drama I don't join lfms with stupid requirements.

[Whesper]

Add a dummy test in your LFM, something like 'send word "green" before applying'. You will be sure the applicant can/does read and follow simple instructions.

[Thalone]

You expect people who can't read LFM notes to be able to read a forum post :confused:

[Noctus]

Doesnt read LFM --> gets booted = perfectly fine.

Noone has a right to be in your groups.

[Dungeonsdragons1057]

People say send a Tell. The OP is one who not to long ago posted he doesn't answer tells when making groups. This can be a problem.

[5chinoble]

Yes agreed with the op read the blooming lfm. Did a weapon shipment the other day soloed it to the boss. Boss is fitting the titan so I open the group stating in the lfm quest is done baubble is mine which I have done in the passed with no problem. Some noob joins and loots the dam baubble even though other group members are saying pass the baubble to me. He states the lfm said free loot which we all agreed said nothing of the sort.... but yes as the op said read the bloody lfm...plz thanks

[xSeverinax]

heh i love when people fail to read the lfms. worst part is when players dont ask questions and wonder why you get ****ed off at them

byoh= if ya dont know what it means just ask someone. dont go in and die wondering why you never got a heal

that was just one of the many examples im sure people dont listen to.

I always bring my own hats when I group, never really understood why people don't.

[zeonardo]

Write down your LFM message then put this at the end:

"send me a tell saying: 'I agree' to apply"

Click on the tells to throw a party invite and forget about the pending requests.

[Vint]

99% of quests, I could care less if someone has sound, I'll probably be halfway done with it before they even step in anyway. Other 1% ... yeah, handy to be able to communicate and important to know who can communicate (with mic or without).

I agree that you only need sound in a few raids for a completion to happen. However I ifnd it very rude for someone to join a party and not meet the requirements. Completion and communication is only a small part of the problem. The person who hits the LFM that doesn't have a mic is not worried about ruining the other party members time.

I play alot with a deaf/mute. He runs circles around the rest of the server though. I would group with him in any raid before I would take someone with a useable mic and headphones. This is the reason I do not put "use mic" in an LFM. At the same time I might be more apt to take someone that will send a tell that they arent using mic as it is late. No problem here.

[Gremmlynn]

I kind of agree here but the OP hasn't provided complete context. There's a few quests in the game where it is very important to have effective communication and perhaps this was one of those quests.

99% of quests, I could care less if someone has sound, I'll probably be halfway done with it before they even step in anyway. Other 1% ... yeah, handy to be able to communicate and important to know who can communicate (with mic or without).

I remember leading elite inferno of the damned for the first time in a new to the quest group following the wiki. Asked if everyone had sound, 2 people didn't, typed a quick question to determine if they would be able to respond quickly, they ignored my typed messages; /dismiss, smooth run in the end (though now when we do the quest in 6 minutes I guess it was slow but all good).I have less of a problem with the OP requesting I have sound then the silly little game he likes to play to ensure I'm complying with his request. I simply have no desire to group with anyone who assumes I'm illiterate until I prove otherwise.