Gamespot's exclusive look at Menace of the Underdark

[Cordovan]

Gamespot gets an exclusive look at the Menace of the Underdark! Video of the Demon Web, the King's Forest, and more! Click here! (http://www.gamespot.com/features/druids-and-driders-dandd-online-heads-to-the-forgotten-realms-6370289/)

[Aelonwy]

Green Dragon!!!! Yes!!!!

[Cauthey]

MOAR Mimics! YESS!!! :D :D :D

[Woodmansee]

Looks awesome, can't wait!

[grayham]

Suhhhhh- W33333333333ttttttt!

[deadmanet]

Just watched the video.

Woot! is all I can say without spoiling it for others.:cool:


*edit* Just read the article fully, June 25? That means beta will be coming soon?

[junior_w]

Looks very nice.

[axan]

Looks very nice the forest especially, was hoping the elemental forms would actual change you into the elemental but still looks cool they way turbine have implemented them, hope they add more forms over time, but looking very nice so far glad i pre ordered.

[bradleyforrest]

Looks good so far. Bringing another dragon fight to the game is always a good thing, too. That completes the chromatics, now we need to see the metallic dragons, although they'll probably be questgivers since Turbine doesn't send the players up against good monsters very often.

[danotmano1998]

Moar Dragons!!!

Moar RANDOM ENCOUNTERS!!!
(Seriously my favorite part. New spawning mechanics? Not the same each time you go through? HECK YA!)

Moar stuff!!
Moar classes!


(Note: view may change based on how many bugs are introduced or re-introduced.)

But for now?
WOOOOOT!

[Tolero]

Bringing another dragon fight to the game is always a good thing, too.

Only one?

;)

[bradleyforrest]

Only one?

;)

Tease!

[Krelar]

Moar Dragons!!!

Moar RANDOM ENCOUNTERS!!!
(Seriously my favorite part. New spawning mechanics? Not the same each time you go through? HECK YA!)

Moar stuff!!
Moar classes!


(Note: view may change based on how many bugs are introduced or re-introduced.)

But for now?
WOOOOOT!


We'll see how you feel when the spawning goes nuts and a swarm of dragons eats your face. :D

[danotmano1998]

We'll see how you feel when the spawning goes nuts and a swarm of dragons eats your face. :D

I eagerly await said face-eating. :D

I think with some dedication and practice, it could be an olympic event. Heaven knows that I already excel in face-planting-into-traps. At least with dragons it would be different than the same-old same-old!!

[Jay203]

do we get the hand crossbows too?? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Uska]

Looks good so far. Bringing another dragon fight to the game is always a good thing, too. That completes the chromatics, now we need to see the metallic dragons, although they'll probably be questgivers since Turbine doesn't send the players up against good monsters very often.

Uummm this is eberron color doesn't equal a dragon's alignment here

[Aganthor]

Looks really nice! Can't wait :)

[blkcat1028]

Uummm this is eberron color doesn't equal a dragon's alignment here

It's not just Eberron anymore...

[LOOON375]

Fricken sweeeet!!!

Randomly spawning monsters, random NPC encounters. And fricken werewovles...

Nice.

[Culver.Civello]

AWESOME!

Super excited, even more so than before! :D I'm all giddy in excitement now!

[dlsidhe]

Now I'm wondering...if a druid is in wolf form, does s/he get evasion? :D

Other than that...SWEET!

[sacredguyver]

Uummm this is eberron color doesn't equal a dragon's alignment here
In the Forgotten Realms, Chromatic (Red, Green, Blue, etc.)Dragons are of some Evil alignment. Metallic Dragons (Brass, Copper, Gold, etc.) are of some Good alignment.

[Talias006]

Uummm this is eberron color doesn't equal a dragon's alignment here

And to further point out the semi-obvious, the Green Dragon we get to fight does appear to be in (Faerûn, continent) (Toril, world).
Choose which of the parenthetical you would use, but both are correct in this instance.

[Gimpinator]

Gamespot gets an exclusive look at the Menace of the Underdark! Video of the Demon Web, the King's Forest, and more! Click here! (http://www.gamespot.com/features/druids-and-driders-dandd-online-heads-to-the-forgotten-realms-6370289/)

You had me at randomized encounters. Finally, but what took you guys so long?

[Tom_Hunters]

the world itself didn't appear very different, which is as expected

but the direwolves/druid-elementals and GREEN DRAGON are really cool

[Esserbe]

If dragons of that size are also random encounters, oh dear.

[ZaxisDakmorr]

According to the game, since we'll be transported to Cormyr, assisting The Purple Dragon Knights...will the prestige enhancement be available? (The Purple Dragon Knight)

[Zyerz]

the world itself didn't appear very different, which is as expected

but the direwolves/druid-elementals and GREEN DRAGON are really cool

I personally noticied a big change in the "feel" it had. Doesnt have an Eberron graphic model type theme per se. So i'm assuming they made competely new models for this. Hopefully, very little recycling of the Eberron models.

As I saw the vid, all I could say to myself was..... :eek: Holy cow! :eek:Holy cow! :eek: Holy cow! Cause I cant say the other word here. But.... I'm so fricking excited. I cant wait.
Also, any news on the beta?

[sephiroth1084]

Ooooh! :eek:

Happy to see some random encounter mechanics getting introduced in a (seemingly) more meaningful way. Particularly piqued over the non-combat encounters that can move and can lead to different results. That's something I've wanted here for a long time!

I think the fire and water elemental forms are interesting, but I'm not super-thrilled with the look. May have to see them in action.

The forest-scape looked very nice! That and the burnt-out town with the mountains in the distance were my two favorite spots of the video. The forest had something of a Cerulean Hills/Redwillow's look to it, but with some more character and depth. Big thumbs up there.


Uh, who was controlling the characters through that video? I hope it wasn't our devs here. Honestly, if I were someone unfamiliar with DDO, that combat wouldn't look much different to me than the stuff from WoW--the main POV toon spends a lot of time just moving or standing around, or making weak-looking swings at enemies well out of their attack range, and the greatsword-wielding dude was swinging sloooowly and also not always within melee range. I only bring this up because if these videos and previews are suppose to entice new players, they don't appear to do as good a job as they could. One of the most unique features of DDO is its active combat, where movement, positioning and timing actually matter to some degree (though much of the game doesn't make very good use of this), and the combat tends to be rather fast, so why have characters standing around or slow-swinging so much?


And to end on a positive note: DRAGON!!!!!! I've been wanting more dragons for a while. I've been wanting more dragons that aren't stapled in place ::coughvelahcough:: and that can move around, and this looks like it fits the bill. Now, here's my hope that the allusion from a dev earlier in this thread means we'll be seeing more than one dragon, and here's hoping that the dragon(s) can move around as much as those in the Tor or Prey on the Hunter, and can gain some distance from players so they don't just get surrounded and beat on like so many of the other bosses we have do, but aren't big annoying HP sacks like the pair in Prey are. Wing buffet can knock players away without sending them flying a hundred yards. The buffet only needs to give the dragon some breathing room to disrupt AoE DoTs, CC, tank'n'spank set-ups and get people moving. It doesn't need to clear the area for a whole minute.

It did look pretty friggin cool.

[BDog77]

do we get the hand crossbows too?? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Also, can we please get black as a skin color for our drow PCs?

As I have mentioned previously, we are gonna be teased unmercifully by our FR cousins (if they ever guess we are supposed to be drow, I mean)

[BruceTheHoon]

Seeing the mimic move while frozen really made me laugh :D
Now, it's a feature!

I'm getting more and more excited by the expansion.
I can't wait for an all-druid party in elemental forms (they look superb).

[Buggss]

Buggssy is pleased..... :D

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

So i'm assuming they made competely new models for this. Hopefully, very little recycling of the Eberron models.

Of which I hope they'll use at least some to update Stormreach a little bit.

The NPCs always looking the same is a bit ... boring over time.

[MrkGrismer]

Hopefully there is a randomizing flag on chests that can replace them with mimics (and hopefully when the mimic is killed you get what would have been in the chest with maybe a +1-4 (1d4?) on the loot level :D).

I didn't see anything flying :( Not that I was expecting to but geeze.

Overall liked what I saw and read. a lot of potential and promise here.

On a side note, I wonder if with this engine update the warforged and others in the Cannith adventure pak will finally get their death animations. Was just in there last night smiting and it just seems so 'unfinished' when they just vanish. Like they fixed a glitch in the matrix or something.

[Hendrik]

That forest looks AMAZING!


Random Encounters?!?!!?! /drool!


More I read/see about this the more excited I get!



Was very happy to read the Drow will be using Hand-crossbows.

[Drakos]

Loved the vid...

I hope that some of these new mwchanics get ported over to the existing content aw well (I'm looking at you random encounters and encounters with random resolution friend or foe type stuff).

Werewolves, is it too much to hope for to have a PC get infected with Lycanthropy? Probably so but sweeeeeeeeet.

[Diyon]

Loved the vid...

I hope that some of these new mwchanics get ported over to the existing content aw well (I'm looking at you random encounters and encounters with random resolution friend or foe type stuff).

Werewolves, is it too much to hope for to have a PC get infected with Lycanthropy? Probably so but sweeeeeeeeet.

You know that reminds me of a story my friend once told. The party encountered a group of hunters more or less like what the ones in the expansion will be like (they were actually werewolves). One of the party members had profession: cooking, and decided to make a stew...out of the cockatrice they had recently killed. The "travelers" ate and turned to stone. Also, the cook had no clue that would happen or that they were werewolves.

[Sleepsalot]

This looks totally awesome. Druid shape Changes sound really good. The random encounters also is great. Bring on the beta SOON... LoL
Just a Thought BG had a Bolt of polymorphing would turn any thing it hit into Squirrel LoL
Sleeps :D :) :D

[yawumpus]

If you need a laugh, the comments maintain the usual level of wittiness, i.e. none.

The worst imo is poodlejumper, a player who claims to have played the game, rattles off a quick history of D&D versions and then implies that DDO uses D&D 4e as a base.

There are the usual other fallacies, including the inevitable claim of all MMOs of being a WoW clone (WoW was released less than a year before DDO. It would have been impossible to re-write DDO to clone WoW even if they wanted to. You could claim that both are Everquest clones, but it is easier to show that both are based on D&D.

[danotmano1998]

After watching that new dragon, I gotta say I'm even more excited now.

He just looks angry. And his claw swats look lethal. His actions and animation is substantially better than any of the current dragon models I've seen so far.

Most excellent work, guys. Can't wait.

[Missing_Minds]

Was very happy to read the Drow will be using Hand-crossbows.

Which means poison immunity items will probalby need to be standard. I can just see those drow using dispell magic often alongside their paralyzing poisons.

Em... think FR dark elves are going to be ticked with how we are going to corrupt their version of SR? :)

[Bekki]

Which means poison immunity items will probalby need to be standard. I can just see those drow using dispell magic often alongside their paralyzing poisons.

Em... think FR dark elves are going to be ticked with how we are going to corrupt their version of SR? :)

*Sharpens his axe....

"What say we go and ask them... Real friendly like...?"

:p

[Krelar]

Which means poison immunity items will probalby need to be standard. I can just see those drow using dispell magic often alongside their paralyzing poisons.

Em... think FR dark elves are going to be ticked with how we are going to corrupt their version of SR? :)

Are we going to need our blindness immunity again too? Don't FR drow have the ability to conjure darkness 10' radius or something like that? (I haven't play PnP in many years maybe this ability was removed for 3.5)

[arminius]

One usually has to go to YouTube to get comments as poorly informed as those at that site. Scary.

If all internet comments were that bad, they could be banned and punishable by death and I wouldn't care. No loss at all.

[THAC0]

Gamespot gets an exclusive look at the Menace of the Underdark! Video of the Demon Web, the King's Forest, and more! Click here! (http://www.gamespot.com/features/druids-and-driders-dandd-online-heads-to-the-forgotten-realms-6370289/)

Great review and its looks amazing.

[psteen1]

Are we going to need our blindness immunity again too? Don't FR drow have the ability to conjure darkness 10' radius or something like that? (I haven't play PnP in many years maybe this ability was removed for 3.5)

they create globes of darkness, but blindness immunity wouldn't save you there, since the globes are environmental and are unrelated to your eyes. Infrasvision/seeing in the dark doesn't work with these globes either... cause they're magic. If they do implement this, it will be like sleet storm.. just have to get outside the area of effect.

[Krelar]

they create globes of darkness, but blindness immunity wouldn't save you there, since the globes are environmental and are unrelated to your eyes. Infrasvision/seeing in the dark doesn't work with these globes either... cause they're magic. If they do implement this, it will be like sleet storm.. just have to get outside the area of effect.

Ah I see.. So new item, goggles with little magic flashlights on them! :D

[Hendrik]

Which means poison immunity items will probalby need to be standard. I can just see those drow using dispell magic often alongside their paralyzing poisons.

Em... think FR dark elves are going to be ticked with how we are going to corrupt their version of SR? :)

From GS;

"In fact, poison and poison resistance are more important in the expansion than they have been in the past. Just how important isn't yet clear, but you won't need to wait long to find out: Dungeons & Dragons Online: Menace of the Underdark arrives on June 25."

Hope they are something to be 'afraid' of and not negated to a yawn factor due to PC Immunities/Spells.

[Missing_Minds]

Are we going to need our blindness immunity again too? Don't FR drow have the ability to conjure darkness 10' radius or something like that? (I haven't play PnP in many years maybe this ability was removed for 3.5)

If they drop an actual sphere (and they could. I mean Solid Fog, stink cloud, freezing rain are all visual blocking spheres.) blindness immunity won't help you. There is just zero light to see with at all. And they would be effected just as much as we are.

Thing is in PnP we could reduce it by taking the feat of "blind fighting" which we don't have.

But if the trailer was any indication, it seems that we won't be dealing with a Sphere of Darkness, but instead they'll be getting a "darkness buff" of some sort. I'd hope it would just be something akin to removing the penalty they should have for being out in daylight. What was it called.. Light sensitivity?


From GS;

"In fact, poison and poison resistance are more important in the expansion than they have been in the past. Just how important isn't yet clear, but you won't need to wait long to find out: Dungeons & Dragons Online: Menace of the Underdark arrives on June 25."

Hope they are something to be 'afraid' of and not negated to a yawn factor due to PC Immunities/Spells.

I'm just thinking how people will either chug a pot or just rely upon their saves. I'm expecting such high DCs on the poisons such that even those high roll savers are going to fail a lot more often. It is for these people that it will become an issue.

Either that or Poison pots will act like Disease removal pots, and just remove at that time and not be a protection for a time period.

[Ravelock]

"In fact, poison and poison resistance are more important in the expansion than they have been in the past. Just how important isn't yet clear, but you won't need to wait long to find out: Dungeons & Dragons Online: Menace of the Underdark arrives on June 25."


Chalk up another endorsement of WF as THE master race...

[Crann]

According to the game, since we'll be transported to Cormyr, assisting The Purple Dragon Knights...will the prestige enhancement be available? (The Purple Dragon Knight)

I believe all prestige enhancements will be available.

Very exciting times :)

[Diyon]

they create globes of darkness, but blindness immunity wouldn't save you there, since the globes are environmental and are unrelated to your eyes. Infrasvision/seeing in the dark doesn't work with these globes either... cause they're magic. If they do implement this, it will be like sleet storm.. just have to get outside the area of effect.

They HAVE implemented this, the black dragons (or one of them) in Mired in Kobolds uses a sphere of darkness.

[Diyon]

Woah! Did anyone else catch the drow player do a mid-air flip just before the activated the mimic in the video?

[sacredguyver]

Woah! Did anyone else catch the drow player do a mid-air flip just before the activated the mimic in the video?
Yeah, I just did. Unless that's something you get from having an extremely high Tumble score (unlikely at best), we may be looking at a change to the Jump skill.

[Diyon]

Yeah, I just did. Unless that's something you get from having an extremely high Tumble score (unlikely at best), we may be looking at a change to the Jump skill.

I think he did a front flip. I just now realized if you hit trip with a scroll in had you do a bicycle kick (back flipping).


Either that or they pulled off a bugged tumble.

[sacredguyver]

A bug wouldn't be that surprising. When @produceglin first tweeted about the gamespot video, he called it an "alpha preview." Bugs in alpha are to be expected.

Here's the tweet itself: https://twitter.com/#!/producerglin/status/188015337357316096 (https://twitter.com/#%21/producerglin/status/188015337357316096)

[Missing_Minds]

Yeah, I just did. Unless that's something you get from having an extremely high Tumble score (unlikely at best), we may be looking at a change to the Jump skill.

I noticed that, but it could be a change to evasion also, because I'd expect the tumble score to do flips to be high enough such that you'd move further than that.

[Diyon]

I noticed that, but it could be a change to evasion also, because I'd expect the tumble score to do flips to be high enough such that you'd move further than that.

but the fight hadn't started yet.

[Missing_Minds]

but the fight hadn't started yet.

Lag.

Kidding, I'd have to rewatch the clip to see. I just remember he did one, ended up in a pile of goo for the effort also.

[Tyrande]

That drow was either a PC wizard or a sorcerer. He must have invested a lot in tumble points. I believe it was a jump & tumble combination?! I know with 30+ tumble you can do back flips already on LIVE. I had a rogue that once had high tumble that can do that. Its probably good for show, pretty useless skill otherwise.

The PC party composition looks like a gimpy divine caster not casting blade barrier, implosion, nor destruction (most likely a low DC favored soul since I do not see a positive energy aura; but no Blade Barrier?!). A druid, an arcane caster (most likely a wizard since they were no elemental savant hints on the hands) and judging by the spells he casted, i.e. meteor shower, prismatic spray, delay blast fireball, lightning bolt, wail of the banshee, magic missile; there are no new arcane spells. The wizard was also not a Pale master with a pretty low spell penetration, low DC wizard since I did not see any crowd control or instant kill spells working (okay, may be one finger of death went off on a vine thrasher)... and blue spell resistance auras showing up a lot... and I mean *A LOT*.

Also, they were not casting any damage over time spells? No DOTS?!?

I saw the druid was casting some fire aura (regenerate?) spell, and also Flame Blade on his scimitars. Also shape shifting into wolf, winter wolf, fire elemental and water elemental.
Did not see any high level druid spells like Earthquake, Creeping Doom, Call Lightning, Call Lightning Storm or Storm of Vengeance. A melee druid perhaps?

The last member was most likely a monk outfit wearing barbarian sometimes holding the Epic Sword of Shadows, and sometimes duo wielding some khopesh.

Also, the drows they fought sometimes were fighting with bare hands... the animations did not look like monk kung fu animations at all. Were they using handwraps?... if they were ranged, they seemed to throw invisible darts or bolts.

[Hendrik]

That drow was either a PC wizard or a sorcerer. He must have invested a lot in tumble points. I believe it was a jump & tumble combination?! I know with 30+ tumble you can do back flips already on LIVE. I had a rogue that once had high tumble that can do that. Its probably good for show, pretty useless skill otherwise.

The PC party composition looks like a gimpy divine caster not casting blade barrier, implosion, nor destruction (most likely a low DC favored soul since I do not see a positive energy aura; but no Blade Barrier?!). A druid, an arcane caster (most likely a wizard since they were no elemental savant hints on the hands) and judging by the spells he casted, i.e. meteor shower, prismatic spray, delay blast fireball, lightning bolt, wail of the banshee, magic missile; there are no new arcane spells. The wizard was also not a Pale master with a pretty low spell penetration, low DC wizard since I did not see any crowd control or instant kill spells working (okay, may be one finger of death went off on a vine thrasher)... and blue spell resistance auras showing up a lot... and I mean *A LOT*.

Also, they were not casting any damage over time spells? No DOTS?!?

I saw the druid was casting some fire aura (regenerate?) spell, and also Flame Blade on his scimitars. Also shape shifting into wolf, winter wolf, fire elemental and water elemental.
Did not see any high level druid spells like Earthquake, Creeping Doom, Call Lightning, Call Lightning Storm or Storm of Vengeance. A melee druid perhaps?

The last member was most likely a monk outfit wearing barbarian sometimes holding the Epic Sword of Shadows, and sometimes duo wielding some khopesh.

Also, the drows they fought sometimes were fighting with bare hands... the animations did not look like monk kung fu animations at all. Were they using handwraps?... if they were ranged, they seemed to throw invisible darts or bolts.

Hand crossbows.

[Tyrande]

Hand crossbows.

They need to make the Hand Crossbows firing more apparent.

Either make that a different color as in Lloth's color purple or something. Also, why were they firing in melee range?

[GeneralDiomedes]

they create globes of darkness, but blindness immunity wouldn't save you there, since the globes are environmental and are unrelated to your eyes. Infrasvision/seeing in the dark doesn't work with these globes either... cause they're magic. If they do implement this, it will be like sleet storm.. just have to get outside the area of effect.

Or it will be just like the original Obscuring Mist .. hopefully with automatic sneak attacks too.

[Silverleafeon]

Chester, the avatar of the loot gods, approves of this thread.

[RabidKoala]

I think it's already been asked. but do we as PC's get to become werewolves if we get the curse when fighting them?

[die]

**** do i watch it or not ... **** do i watch it or not ****.............. This is too much pressure im going too blow a fuse.

[die]

ok i wish i had not looked now.

1. the first thing i see in loths home plan are freakin kobolds.

2. and the same freaking monsters mud men those treee trolls from red fens

3.ohhh WAIT I DID SEE A DRIDER AND A GEEN DRAGON...

4.Yugoloths also ..

so i hate too sound like a killjoy, i do love the game was just hopeing for a new world not a another ebberon with a new name. and that is what it seems like from what ive seen . crossing fingers and hopeing for better come june.

[count_spicoli]

the good: dragon looked sweet, drow looked cool and love the random monster features. descisions with npc's having an effect with something in the game is real nice option and long overdo.

the bad: agree with die on the monsters looking alot like what we already have, and the werewolves just looking like wolves. shouldnt they look like half man half wolf. kind of like something from the underworld movies.

all and all still very excited about the new update and am glad i bought my expansion order.

[Arkat]

Uummm this is eberron color doesn't equal a dragon's alignment here

Somebody forgot something...




Uh, who was controlling the characters through that video? I hope it wasn't our devs here.

No, they were being controlled by my 7 year-old nephew and his friends.

[Tyrande]

[...]

1. the first thing i see in loths home plan are freakin kobolds.

2. and the same freaking monsters mud men those treee trolls from red fens

3.ohhh WAIT I DID SEE A DRIDER AND A GEEN DRAGON...

4.Yugoloths also ..


May be those were kobolds but with CR20+ stats?

You forgot the mimic which is kinda of new outside of the Reign of Madness chain.

Also, did you see those hags? Those are different from the Sora Kora sister hags from the Attack on Stormreach chain which was just one boss monster at the end of the chain and did not really fight too much in that chain.

Over there at Faerun, they seemed to engage in battle a lot more; and seemed to be able to read minds (mind control? know your next move?) and go transparent (need ghost touch or true seeing or another new mechanic?)

[die]

May be those were kobolds but with CR20+ stats?

You forgot the mimic which is kinda of new outside of the Reign of Madness chain.

Also, did you see those hags? Those are different from the Sora Kora sister hags from the Attack on Stormreach chain which was just one boss monster at the end of the chain and did not really fight too much in that chain.

Over there at Faerun, they seemed to engage in battle a lot more; and seemed to be able to read minds (mind control? know your next move?) and go transparent (need ghost touch or true seeing or another new mechanic?)

I know, i may have come off alittle hard on are hard working Dev's. But 20+ cr kobold or not me no likey.

i know there is no way too get away from all the monsters that we see already nor do i want too .

But i was let down alittle i think in LOLTHS realm we could have used so many diffrent monsters even if it were all jsut spiders ,

IMO would have been better than kobolds. 20+ or not. But im holding out hope that they are not showing us the real mosnters so we can be suprised,

[learst]

the good: dragon looked sweet, drow looked cool and love the random monster features. descisions with npc's having an effect with something in the game is real nice option and long overdo.

the bad: agree with die on the monsters looking alot like what we already have, and the werewolves just looking like wolves. shouldnt they look like half man half wolf. kind of like something from the underworld movies.

all and all still very excited about the new update and am glad i bought my expansion order.

I thought those wolves were just regular wolves. As of now, no one mentioned werewolves specifically, just hints that it might be present in the expansion (e.g. the campers try to dine on the adventurers).

Anyway, visuals aside am I the only one who thought immediately of the NWN2 Mask of the Betrayer story when the preview mentioned the hags who read dreams? A bit like a recycled plot element, what were the coven of hags called again?

[Diyon]

ok i wish i had not looked now.

1. the first thing i see in loths home plan are freakin kobolds.

2. and the same freaking monsters mud men those treee trolls from red fens

3.ohhh WAIT I DID SEE A DRIDER AND A GEEN DRAGON...

4.Yugoloths also ..

so i hate too sound like a killjoy, i do love the game was just hopeing for a new world not a another ebberon with a new name. and that is what it seems like from what ive seen . crossing fingers and hopeing for better come june.

1. Kobolds are not Eberron specific by any means.

2. You really expected all new monsters? Most monsters in DDO right now are stuff found in other settings too.

3. Yes you did.

4. There is ONE place you can fight these right now.

Also, mimics, dryads, hags, werewolves.

[die]

1. Kobolds are not Eberron specific by any means.

2. You really expected all new monsters? Most monsters in DDO right now are stuff found in other settings too.

3. Yes you did.

4. There is ONE place you can fight these right now.

Also, mimics, dryads, hags, werewolves.

how about i dont know..
Aspect of Graz'zt Aspect of Obox-ob Aspect of Yeenoghu

Dabus - Demon Canbion - Demon Carnevus - Demon Oculus - Envoy of Lolth -Giant Abyssal -Lamia Noble

Viper Tree Elder- Armanite- Bar-lgura- Broodswarm Bulezau- Chasme -Mane,

so far thats just some of the monsters from the books"Hordes of the Abyss" and "expedition to the Demon web pit"

im not even going too touch mm1 mm2 mm3Fiend Folio and monsters of faerun"

so yes the most famous Kobold is deacon from nwn 1 and 2 so yes i know ... but really could we just try other monsters.

[Diyon]

how about i dont know..
Aspect of Graz'zt Aspect of Obox-ob Aspect of Yeenoghu

Dabus - Demon Canbion - Demon Carnevus - Demon Oculus - Envoy of Lolth -Giant Abyssal -Lamia Noble

Viper Tree Elder- Armanite- Bar-lgura- Broodswarm Bulezau- Chasme -Mane,

so far thats just some of the monsters from the books"Hordes of the Abyss" and "expedition to the Demon web pit"

im not even going too touch mm1 mm2 mm3Fiend Folio and monsters of faerun"

so yes the most famous Kobold is deacon from nwn 1 and 2 so yes i know ... but really could we just try other monsters.

Right, but you also have no idea whether these won't be there. They said specifically not all the animations were done on the green dragon yet, so its quite possible a lot of other new monsters weren't ready for show.

[die]

Right, but you also have no idea whether these won't be there. They said specifically not all the animations were done on the green dragon yet, so its quite possible a lot of other new monsters weren't ready for show.

Yes we agree on that , and im sure ther is more dont get me wrong.. Its friday im going too play take care all . and im sure it will all be ok

[MrkGrismer]

Placeholders people, pre-production videos. Some of those are placeholders.