40+ dc on enchantment and necromancy spells build

[Altrelo]

This is my first ever forum post so please bear with me if i do some mistakes. this is my first build so please feel more than welcome to leave comment on what i should improve.

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Altrop
Level 20 Chaotic Good Halfling Male
(20 Wizard)
Hit Points: 286
Spell Points: 1815
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 10
Will: 15

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 11 11
Dexterity 10 10
Constitution 17 19
Intelligence 18 31
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 2 11.5
Bluff -1 -1
Concentration 7 31
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 4
Heal -1 -1
Hide 2 15.5
Intimidate 1 1
Jump 2 13.5
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 0 13.5
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 4 33
Search 4 10
Spot -1 -1
Swim 0 0
Tumble n/a 2
Use Magic Device 1 5.5

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Hat of the Archmagi \par Alchemist's Pendant \par Greater Cunning Trinket \par Magewright's Cloak \par Belt of Greater False Life \par Tumbleweed \par Ogre Power Gloves \par Cannith Boots of Propulsion \par Clever Ring \par Windhowler Bracers \par Epic Illusionist's Garb \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of No Bonus Effect \par Ring of the Archmagi \par Sanura's Band \par Eerie Belt \par Sustaining Symbiont \par Bracelet of Thaarak \par Bracelet of Thaarak \par \par Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Master's Touch
Spell (1): Sleep
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Hypnotism


Level 2 (Wizard)
Spell (1): Acid Spray
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (2): Web
Spell (2): Blur


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Knock


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Spell (3): Rage
Spell (3): Deep Slumber


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Acid Blast


Level 7 (Wizard)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (4): Acid Rain


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Spell (4): Phantasmal Killer
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
Spell (5): Hold Monster
Spell (4): Fire Shield


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Prismatic Ray


Level 11 (Wizard)
Spell (6): Greater Heroism
Spell (6): Flesh to Stone


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (6): Mass Suggestion
Spell (6): Disintegrate


Level 13 (Wizard)
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (7): Mass Hold Person


Level 14 (Wizard)
Spell (7): Finger of Death
Spell (7): Banishment


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance
Spell (8): Black Dragon Bolt


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Polar Ray


Level 17 (Wizard)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Spell (9): Power Word: Kill


Level 19 (Wizard)
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Spell (9): Energy Drain


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Improved Mental Toughness
Spell (8): Sunburst
Spell (8): Incendiary Cloud
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) III
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Heightening I
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Heightening II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Lich
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master I
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master II
Enhancement: Wizard Pale Master III
Enhancement: Shroud of the Vampire
Enhancement: Shroud of the Zombie



~18 base int
+7 item
+5 ability increase
+3 enhancement bonus
+2 tome
+2 ship buffs
+2 cap bonus
+3 exceptional
+2 yugo pot, essence of cunning
~44 intelligence
can also add a +2 from ddo store pots.
sp breakdown
~1125 base
+150 GS item
+200 Archmagi
+80 magical training
+210 feats
+493 int modifier
+80 Energy of the scholar
+50 Cunning trinket.
~2388 sp at level 20
hp breakdown
160
+20 toughness
+20 Elemental energy
+30 Greater false life
+20 Racial toughness
+60 Feat
+20 Heroic durability
+80 hit die
+20 Palemaster
~430
in lich form its 470.
DC breakdown
Necro:
+9 spell level, heighten
+17 int mod
+2 feat
+2 greater focus
+10 base
+1 past lfe
+2 Lich shroud
43 dc
Enchantment
+9 spell level, Heihten
+17 int mod
+2 feat
+2 greater focus
+10 base
+1 past life
+1 lich from
42 DC

[Infant]

Why Halfling? Why Chaotic Good except for flavor reasons (which is fine, I was just wondering).

I can imagine this build would be nice in epics for CC and instakills. Except if you face Spell Resistance, maybe.

But what do you want to do in raids? Or if you have to kill stuff on your own? I would strongly recommend taking Maximize and Empower: You will have a much more versatile character who can contribute in raids and against epic bosses. You have two Mental Toughness feats and three (!) Toughness feats. You need none of them (Pale Master will give you a nice boost to HP) except one Toughness feat. Take Maximize, Empower, Spell Penetration and Greater Spell Penetration instead.

I didn't look at your AP and Spell selection, but Halfling Luck and Subtle Spellcasting Enhancements seem a bit like a waste of AP (except, maybe if you solo to 20 a lot). Damage-wise, I would concentrate on two elements.


Infant

[goodspeed]

id ditch the halfling and go either robot, human, or even elf for more spell pen.

Then i'd go true neutral. Then i'd grind out two more lives cause spell pen is coming to attention front line and center.

Also their is no empower or maximize. While you'll do dmg, it won't be their when it counts. You could use insta kills and the like but ur a pm not a am so that's gonna get quite a bit pricy.

Also quicken isn't in their either and disco can be a good long agonizingly painful cast especially with devils and orthons beating the hell out of you for no real aggro reason.

Also you have 2 toughness feats selected and while it's been awhile since I played a pm I don't remember improved mental toughness being a requirement nor even mental toughness. 100 sp is nice but not at the expense of a feat.

Also you seem to have just the first tier in each element taken ie acid fire air repair force. I'd really specialize in just 1 or 2 otherwise again ur dmg output is just gonna be nothing to some raid boss be it the shadow guys, or harry, or sulu, or those badass elfs in the epic chain.

And don't neglect web. I have a feeling it will be a great important spell soon though it's already nice now.

[Altrelo]

Thank you everyone and i went halfling because all i make is halfling just personal preferance, Ill revise all the toughness but id like to keep the mental toughness since if im taking maximize and empower then id like to have the sp to use them. I believe i took all the enhancement line for Spell pen in order to not take the feat but ill ditch improved mental toughness for the spell pen, again thank you

[MsEricka]

Drop the improved mental toughness and take insightful reflexes. Drop dex to 8 and put two more points into strength.

Reasons? 105SP from IMT isn't worth anything if you keep dying to simple spells cast at you like DBF, lightning, chain lightning etc.

Two points into dex gets you 1 to your reflex save, while taking IMT gets you +15 or more. Putting those two points into STR means when you are hit with exhaustion (and you know you will be) you will be less likely to be burdened and can still move at a normal pace.

In fact if you're going pale master I'd say drop Mental Toughness after getting yourself a torc. A pale master with a torc is an amazing thing. Find yourself some archers and get free unlimited SP.

[Altrelo]

MsEricka, i can't drop dex to 8, Halflings get a +2 bonus to dexterity. Although thanks a bunches for reminding me of the torc, i had forgotten it since i seldom run demon queen

[goodspeed]

Drop the improved mental toughness and take insightful reflexes. Drop dex to 8 and put two more points into strength.

Reasons? 105SP from IMT isn't worth anything if you keep dying to simple spells cast at you like DBF, lightning, chain lightning etc.

Two points into dex gets you 1 to your reflex save, while taking IMT gets you +15 or more. Putting those two points into STR means when you are hit with exhaustion (and you know you will be) you will be less likely to be burdened and can still move at a normal pace.

In fact if you're going pale master I'd say drop Mental Toughness after getting yourself a torc. A pale master with a torc is an amazing thing. Find yourself some archers and get free unlimited SP.

oh ya forgot insightful. Ya that's definitely another good spell to increase survivability, if not even splashing 2 rog for pure survivability.

[Infant]

Thank you everyone and i went halfling because all i make is halfling just personal preferance, Ill revise all the toughness but id like to keep the mental toughness since if im taking maximize and empower then id like to have the sp to use them. I believe i took all the enhancement line for Spell pen in order to not take the feat but ill ditch improved mental toughness for the spell pen, again thank you

105 SP aren't going to make it or break it, it is much more about resource management than about 100 SP. OTOH, Reflex Save in the high 30s is very useful. As are Spell Pen Feats.

[Malky]

105 SP aren't going to make it or break it, it is much more about resource management than about 100 SP. OTOH, Reflex Save in the high 30s is very useful. As are Spell Pen Feats.

This.

The reflex save is especially important on a pale master :
- failing your save on an epic sunburst = instagib unless your health pool is at least in the 550-600 range
- epic cometfall knockdown is a pain considering that you will hardly, if ever, be healed from the outside.

As for spell pen, try to get at least +28 total with gear, it's the minimum for efficient CCing/killing imo. 30-32 is more comfortable, but 28 will do ok on pretty much everything except drows.

[uthanak69]

Drop Mental (and Improved) Toughness. Those extra spell points are not worth jack ****
MT is only needed for Wraith Form, but then switch it out at 18 when you get Lich Form.

Has for feat order, here's my plan for my Wiz TR coming up soon. May give you some ideas.

Level 1
Wiz Bonus: Maximize
Human Bonus: Toughness.
SF: Necro

Level 3
Past Life: Arcane Initiate (or Insightful Reflexes. Good for leveling but after spending some time at cap, I don't think it's has useful anymore)

Level 5
Wiz Bonus: Extend

Level 6
SF: Enchantment

Level 9
Mental Toughness (At level 18 use your free feat swap to get GSF: Enchantment)

Level 10
Wiz Bonus: Empower

Level 12
GSF: Necro

Level 15
Wiz bonus: Quicken
Spell Pen

Level 18
Greater Spell Pen

Level 20
Wiz bonus: Heighten

[MsEricka]

MsEricka, i can't drop dex to 8, Halflings get a +2 bonus to dexterity.

ya I had totally forgot the halfling part.