As a bard does your healing contribution often get ignored?

[NaturalHazard]

I was on my SS bard recently in shroud, it was me and 1 cleric healing in part 5 the cleric dced just as harry dropped down, I solo healed the last fight no fuss........when harry died one of the party memebers started gushing at the absent cleric, omg well done man!!! you solo healed shroud I was kind of doubtful but you pulled it off!!! rotfl!!!

Was in another shroud with the same bard, was just me and a clonk who had 1200 sp healing in part 5 he blew his sp load when harry was still at 40% I healed the rest, he did have his aura and bursts going that helped. At the end someone else started gushing at the cleric wow you solo healed well done. Another person pointed out that the bard healed as well. That other person replied ok well 1 and a half healers then, sure I dont have aura, burst, heal or mass heal, but im half a healer with 500 more sp?

Shroud again on my warchanter we have 2 favoured souls so im thinking I wont have to do much healing, part 4 I realise only one FS is tossing heals so I help out there. Part 5 harry is at 60% and the favoured soul healing dc's. The other favoured soul continues dotting not throwing a single heal, and its up to me on my bard in the middle of the melee to keep them up. I pulled it off, thank goodness the dps was decent only had 1049 sp. To add insult to injury others notice that the FS had dced and started heaping praise on the remaining FS. Thankfully some noticed it was me doing the healing and thanked me.

When I heal I don't *expect* thanks, but if people are going to thank people for healing and I contributed I like to feel *inclueded* and it does annoy me a little bit when im ignored, especially in cases where I was the only one healing :rolleyes:

btw hordo good job in hard lob yesterday, was laggy and not the smoothest but you where pretty sharp on your bard with the spot healing and rebuffing those that died.

[maddmatt70]

The short answer is Yes although if you are the only healer in a party people start thinking you are the best thing since sliced bread.

[Avenging_Angel]

Yes, bards can support healers quite nicely (and don't forget Spellsinger songs!). You will find people who praise your work, more so if they played as a bard themselves.



When I heal I don't *expect* thanks, but if people are going to thank people for healing and I contributed I like to feel *inclueded* and it does annoy me a little bit when im ignored, especially in cases where I was the only one healing :rolleyes:

Why not saying thanks to the barbarian for swinging weapons, then? I don't understand the whole "thanks for the heals": what else are divines supposed to do against Arraetrikos if not keeping the party alive in order to complete the raid?

[Lorichie]

i remember years ago, on my first attempt at a bard, i'd play healer a bit when needed, and no one even noticed lol, everyone thanked the clerics and on to the next quest they went lol...

a thankless job i tell ya...

R

[Zraack]

Yes. People often do not realize how competent many bards are when it comes to healing. Take satisfaction from the praise. They thought you were a great cleric!

[Dolphious]

All the time! it's frustrating, but it's out of ignorance not malice so meh.

My favorite was the Horoth tank who got major accolades for "self healing" while I was spamming scrolls and spotting with cure crit the whole time.

[sirgog]

Yes. People often do not realize how competent many bards are when it comes to healing.

This.

I've seen a spellsinger solo-heal epic Chronoscope (granted this was when the bosses were a joke).

If your group has two decent divines and wants a third healer, a spellsinger is usually a better overall choice than a third divine.

[Enoach]

As a Bard SS myself I found many parties greatly underestimated my ability to heal (I've moved on to Artificer now) - I think the problem stems more from people not understanding what a bard can do. Somehow they just get lumped in as a Jack-Of-All-Trades and Master of None. When in truth I've met in my travels many a bard that would put a cleric and favored soul to shame in their ability to not only heal damage but to prevent it from occurring in the first place.

Glad to see that there are more keeping the tradition of how great a bard can be alive.

[Thame]

Yes, bards can support healers quite nicely (and don't forget Spellsinger songs!). You will find people who praise your work, more so if they played as a bard themselves.



Why not saying thanks to the barbarian for swinging weapons, then? I don't understand the whole "thanks for the heals": what else are divines supposed to do against Arraetrikos if not keeping the party alive in order to complete the raid?

I dont know I would say it as 'Bards can support healers', Ive ran a few shrouds with a bard that solo healed the entire group. I guess he would sometimes roleplay with this bard and he hated clerics. Seriously thats what he said lol

[Ayyelos]

Just had to smile at this. Yes, yes, and yes.
I didn't start gaining respect as a healer on my bard till I started solo healing stuff. The poor barbs were so nervous. "Do you think I'll be able to frenzy?!?"
Of course!
Once we got all the way to the boss in Edeeps and one of the melee says "Oh wait, we don't have a healer!!"
Who do you think has been healing you all this time? :) Too. Funny.
I think my biggest accomplishment was solo healing hard shroud. That was tough.
The only drawback is lack of deathward. I got a ton of the DW potions during Mabar and hand them out when I am solo healing stuff like EDA. Someday I'll finally finish that epic dusk heart (my friend nicknamed it the "Epic Waste of Time").
Keep it up, bards hardly ever get any love when it comes to the heals, but there are those nice observant people who will notice.

[bowiehero]

I get more thanks for wand-whipping between fights than dumping heal scrolls during bosses.

This is as an Arty however.

[learst]

Short answer - yes.

If there is another divine in the party, your healing contributions are not noticed.

This is slightly different from a meleeing bard though, which can be checked using the kill count. However, if your DPS is not good enough to get kills, then your meleeing contribution will also be ignored.

tl;dr: No on really knows and cares what the bard is doing as long as he/she keeps the songs up. :D

[toaf]

dont forget the water baloon throwing arties. i know ive saved te day more then once.

waater baloon AOE's works but have to have all 3

[DavionFuxa]

I use to play as a Spellsinger Bard that could heal people. My findings were that you generally don't get praise for healing unless you tend to be the only one healing (people assuming a Divine is healing them when your all together, though they do tend to look around if all of a sudden their HP is going up and there is no Divine around).

I've since moved on and TRed my Bard into a Rogue. I don't get much more thanks for disabling traps but every so often I get the satisfaction of seeing people waiting for me to disable the trap that is obstructing them.

[Jay203]

i see where you're coming from with where the appreciations are directed
that's why i never only specifically thank a single person unless it's warranted :D:D:D

[haku-ba]

I noticed you healing in the shroud the other day on your bard in one of my runs. If I see a pure bard wanting to join I will be expecting them to be able to heal.

I have found if you want to be more 'appreciated', start your own shroud group on your bard and only take one divine with you. Then people realise you are the other healer and tend to ignore you less ;)

The last run on my SS one of the divines bailed as we went in and started due to not having collected reward. Remaining one was a Clonk if I recall correctly. Some asked if we were gonna recall and reform. I just said no way we would finish it easy and we did. With a few clickies an SS can heal pretty well.

People ignoring your contribution most likely don't play a bard :D

[JollySwagMan]

I tend to play with the combat tab undocked, so I usually notice who it is if someone heals me :)

[donblas]

It's amazing what can heal, and how little credit the unusual gets.

I solo healed elite threnal chain with a Spellsinger healing a TRed WF barb with multiple rage things going on - like healing 500Hp after each fight.

I healed elite Irestone after both clerics raged quittted with a half orc ranger.

You don't get credit but I really like having versatlie toons that can do the unexpected :)

[Chauncey1]

Don't have a Bard toon myself.
But one of my friends just TR'd into a Bard, and he can heal us good enough to get us through most stuff if we don't have a dedicated healer in the group.

Bards are friggin awesome! I love having them in my group.

[Quetzacoala]

I have never played a bard before, but I can relate to this topic from my experiences with my artificer.

He has the entire Scroll Mastery enhancement line maxed out and I typically play as a secondary healer with great trap skills. You may complain about bards not getting any credit, but few even consider the possibility than an artificer was healing. I have been in groups where the healer disconnects and at first everyone thought the paladin was the one healing...

[sirgog]

It's amazing what can heal, and how little credit the unusual gets.

I solo healed elite threnal chain with a Spellsinger healing a TRed WF barb with multiple rage things going on - like healing 500Hp after each fight.

I healed elite Irestone after both clerics raged quittted with a half orc ranger.

You don't get credit but I really like having versatlie toons that can do the unexpected :)

The biggest surprise is what you can pull off when you have a Torc on a Bard (or even worse healers like a Paladin).

On a Paladin life, I've solohealed elite at-level Offering of Blood, elite at-level Rainbow in the Dark, and several other at-level elites. A bard can do much more - I'd have no hesitation having a Spellsinger with a Torc soloheal at-level Invaders elite, Running with the Devils or other really high incoming damage quests like those.

[PNellesen]

When I heal I don't *expect* thanks, but if people are going to thank people for healing and I contributed I like to feel *inclueded* and it does annoy me a little bit when im ignored, especially in cases where I was the only one healing :rolleyes:

The first Shroud I ran on my Caster Cleric was an at-level run with 4 or 5 first-timers (well before the "Blade Buff") where the only other person with any kind of mass healing was a Bard. I made VERY sure that she got the credit she deserved for the help (no way could I have solo healed it with the group we had), and passed her a couple pots as well when we finished. Up until that point I didn't even know Bards could CAST Mass Cures, but since then I'll gladly take a Bard as a backup healer anytime.

[Chauncey1]

I TR'd my arti into a ranger, and he can heal a little bit at lvl 10.
I did manage to actually use a healing kit on someone the other night before they died, then cast heal on them and get them a whopping 10 hp's before the healer fixed him up.
I wonder how far one could go with healing skills on a ranger without compromising their other ranger type stuff.

[PNellesen]

I wonder how far one could go with healing skills on a ranger without compromising their other ranger type stuff.

I've got a Helf Ranger/Fighter/Rogue w/ Cleric Dilettante who was the "healer" in a short-man at-level Elite Jungle of Khyber (using nothing but CCW wands). He has also kept himself and others going with Heal Scrolls in eChrono and other Epics, as well as ToD. You'd be surprised how well Rangers can heal in emergencies.

[Jaid314]

i generally assume that my bard won't get any credit for anything i do, unless it is absolutely incomprehensible that it could have possibly been done by someone else.

and even then it's iffy whether i'll get credit for it or not.

[axel15810]

Why not saying thanks to the barbarian for swinging weapons, then? I don't understand the whole "thanks for the heals": what else are divines supposed to do against Arraetrikos if not keeping the party alive in order to complete the raid?


They can cast DP and melee. It's just nice to thank healers for a couple reasons. If you are any class not meleeing harry you should be able to self heal, so any heals they send you are not their job on the shroud. That deserves a thanks. Playing a healer is a selfless act. Most people don't play healers. You always have the toughest most stressful job by far and are volunteering to play IMO the most vital role in any party. That also deserves a thanks. And if you want them to heal you well in other quests in the future you'll want them to like you.

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Oh and healers love love love being thanked. Just do it it makes them really happy.

To the OP sorry they didn't notice. But they aren't looking at you during the fight so they don't know where the heals are coming from...and it's not like they're gonna read the combat log. So they just assume it's from the guy whos main job should be healing. Cast really say I blame them...the FVS should have spoke up and said it wasn't him healing.

[Braegan]

Short answer Yes. Bards are underappreciated most times. Heh not to long ago I did a Lob normal with 1 divine and my SS bard. The divine took the tank and I healed the group. Super smooth run, no pots, everyone thanked the divine for their awesome heals. le sigh.

Thing is it's in the player to be able to do those things. And I do firmly believe having played iconic healer classes in the past makes you a stronger back up healer when things get rough. Heh, I remember fondly a nice tr group of 4 at level that tackled reavers fate with me on a pally life tanking and healing the others as well as solo healing a group of 12 in reaver on my AA when the only cleric took a facedive into the spikes.

It's a tough coin because you play what you want not because you are looking for praise but when you do well to be overlooked and/or excluded from praise can make one feel downtrodden. But in the end, you just need to know that you helped to make it happen and take satisfaction in that. The players that really know the game, know that bards are great to have in group and are appreciated.

[Chauncey1]

I've got a Helf Ranger/Fighter/Rogue w/ Cleric Dilettante who was the "healer" in a short-man at-level Elite Jungle of Khyber (using nothing but CCW wands). He has also kept himself and others going with Heal Scrolls in eChrono and other Epics, as well as ToD. You'd be surprised how well Rangers can heal in emergencies.

My ranger has squat for UMD right now...but he has the past life arti stuff, so that helps a LOT with wands and scrolls.
I must admit, at first I thought I'd messed up by Tr'ing to a ranger, but I'm really enjoying playing that class. More fun than a monk IMHO.

[daniel7]

I TR'd my arti into a ranger, and he can heal a little bit at lvl 10.
I did manage to actually use a healing kit on someone the other night before they died, then cast heal on them and get them a whopping 10 hp's before the healer fixed him up.
I wonder how far one could go with healing skills on a ranger without compromising their other ranger type stuff.

I have a couple friends that have high healing amp and I would toss them a maximized cure serious every now and then and almost fill them up.

[Chauncey1]

I have a couple friends that have high healing amp and I would toss them a maximized cure serious every now and then and almost fill them up.

Nice!

Also: it appears I'm somewhat lacking on the healing skills, as I've only just got the heal light wounds spell.

[Doxmaster]

Short answer-yup
Long answer- This has gone on since the dawn of time and we have noticed it since the dawn of time.

[NaturalHazard]

Yeah I dont expect praise but what annoyed me somewhat is when they praise someone for stuff that I did and that they didnt do like when those *healers* dced or didnt heal at all and it was all me, that was just redonkulous.

Its like your the back up, and the player in front of you get injured straight away, and you go in, make all the tackles, kick all the goals whatever, and then at the end of the game the guy who went into the tunnel at the start of the game gets all the praise and your ignored...... lol? ***?

[Tiseria]

Yep :)

[PNellesen]

My ranger has squat for UMD right now...but he has the past life arti stuff, so that helps a LOT with wands and scrolls.
I must admit, at first I thought I'd messed up by Tr'ing to a ranger, but I'm really enjoying playing that class. More fun than a monk IMHO.

The nice thing about Helf Cleric Dilettante: you don't need UMD at all to get 95% success rate on Heal Scrolls, just need to take the all 3 Dilettante enhancements. You DO need 13 WIS, however, which may be too high for some builds.

The ability to use almost-no-fail heal scrolls has saved his bacon more times than I can count now :)

Note that Rangers can get CSW, which combined with a Superior Ardor IV clickie and a couple Ranger Devotion Enhancements can give you some non-trivial healing as well (I've got a Dwarf Ranger who can hit himself for ~80HP with one CSW. Not gonna heal raids, but enough to keep himself alive until the Cleric/FvS/other can hit him with the serious healing...)

[Aashrym]

Yes, bards can support healers quite nicely (and don't forget Spellsinger songs!). You will find people who praise your work, more so if they played as a bard themselves.

Support healers? I think you might be under estimating them a bit too. ;)

[Gara]

From running my bards I would say you have a pretty thankless existence. I think a lot of it has to do with people not really understanding bards. Especially heal speced ones

[Nyxianne]

Yes :)
But the fact that it happens to a lot of other classes takes the sting out. Poor umd toons, don't know how many times I've gotten credit for raise deads or heals that came from a someone with decent umd or clicky. And how many times I've lost out on credit for umding a raise dead or heal scroll :).

[Zennestia]

From running my bards I would say you have a pretty thankless existence. I think a lot of it has to do with people not really understanding bards. Especially heal speced ones

I think that with the relative power of casters and divines these days, the contribution of the bard is just not as important anymore. The songs that primarily buff melee such as inspire courage have less of an impact when people are willing to run quests/raids with >2 casters.
It's not uncommon to see 5 or more casters in a pug shroud..

[Ugumagre]

Yes, bards can support healers quite nicely (and don't forget Spellsinger songs!). You will find people who praise your work, more so if they played as a bard themselves.

Why not saying thanks to the barbarian for swinging weapons, then? I don't understand the whole "thanks for the heals": what else are divines supposed to do against Arraetrikos if not keeping the party alive in order to complete the raid?

Oh, yeah, divines cannot cause any damage to Arraetrikos at all. They have some useless offensive spells that only some n00bs use.

The roles should be clear:
Divines: Hjeal
Wizz: Buffs
Sorcerer: Overpowered. boot him out. He will steal your kills.
Bard: moar buffs
Rogue: traps and locks
Ranger: boot, good for nothing.
Paladin: Gimp, za boot!!
Monk: Meh, okay, this time only...

By the way... you never thank the party leader or the tank?

Anyway, you may treat the divines the way you like. There are tons of them begging to join raids. No need to thank them, just show them who the boss is.

[NaturalHazard]

Oh, yeah, divines cannot cause any damage to Arraetrikos at all. They have some useless offensive spells that only some n00bs use.

The roles should be clear:
Divines: Hjeal
Wizz: Buffs
Sorcerer: Overpowered. boot him out. He will steal your kills.
Bard: moar buffs
Rogue: traps and locks
Ranger: boot, good for nothing.
Paladin: Gimp, za boot!!
Monk: Meh, okay, this time only...

By the way... you never thank the party leader or the tank?

Anyway, you may treat the divines the way you like. There are tons of them begging to join raids. No need to thank them, just show them who the boss is.

The wiz will steal your kills too!! The rogue will, and the bard, the favoured soul and clerics will if they know what they are doing, arti's will be nice but those buggers steal kills as well, only the bard knows his place, just as long as he doesnt have a terror. :D.


As to the person your reply to.......... what cave do you live in man? ever heard of divine punishment? and clerics and favoured souls can swing weapons as well, its harry hes got no AC anyway.

[Razcar]

Oh yes. People may notice their HP going up, but seldom where it comes from. And they assume it is from the cleric or FvS (which it often is, of course). I have many times saved melees from death with a well timed scroll on my Rogue, to hear the axe operator in his next breath thank the "healer". It's extra funny when the "healer" then responds "oh no problem, I try to do my best" or the like, when they were really just picking their noses. "Ingratitude is the recompense of the world", as we say in my country :)

[wax_on_wax_off]

I notice this on my artificer when I spend a significant portion of a quest scroll healing for one reason or another; no one ever notices.

[Blackmoors]

Dont be sad mate, some people are just ungrateful like this fella over here...

http://homepage.ufp.pt/joel/ungrateful.png

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

People ignoring bards ? Sounds like prejudice to me.

[Bargol]

@OP: If you like running a bard get used to people ignoring you and praising the "real" healer in the group.

On a melee bard mind you I have healed many elite at level quests using heal scrolls, cure crit wands, and spells.

I specifically remember a run in gianthold where I was meleeing with the other melees and healing the entire party because the new cleric dropped all his spell points in the first couple encounters. At the end everyone was praising him for being a brilliant healer.....guess I should have only healed myself and let them all die.

[NaturalHazard]

@OP: If you like running a bard get used to people ignoring you and praising the "real" healer in the group.

On a melee bard mind you I have healed many elite at level quests using heal scrolls, cure crit wands, and spells.

I specifically remember a run in gianthold where I was meleeing with the other melees and healing the entire party because the new cleric dropped all his spell points in the first couple encounters. At the end everyone was praising him for being a brilliant healer.....guess I should have only healed myself and let them all die.

Maybe you should of done that in the next quest if you ran with them again?

[Emili]

The short answer is Yes although if you are the only healer in a party people start thinking you are the best thing since sliced bread.
Yes is typical, an' over the next few days you'll receive tells from a newly rolled up bard asking advice. ;)


I was on my SS bard recently in shroud, it was me and 1 cleric healing in part 5 the cleric dced just as harry dropped down, I solo healed the last fight no fuss........when harry died one of the party memebers started gushing at the absent cleric, omg well done man!!! you solo healed shroud I was kind of doubtful but you pulled it off!!! rotfl!!!

Seriously though is funny the last shroud I run there were no divines, Bluer and Abaigeal did the healing... an' I could feel the tension from some of the melee, half had barely 300hp ... what also funnier was Bluer was surprised when told her Abby is a chanter after done. ;)


what else are divines supposed to do against Arraetrikos if not keeping the party alive in order to complete the raid?

Unless ya bowin' down in reverence stop refering to bards as divine class'. We're not a divine class … 'll club ya over the head with a mad lute.

Maybe goddess with a Axe (err lute). :p

[Cauthey]

I don't really care if my healing contribution isn't noticed.

All I can say is that many a Shroud part 4s have been saved by my bard's "oh poo!" sudden waves of mass cure lights, mass cure moderates (spell and scroll), and heal scrolls.

No one has to notice. We just have to complete. :D

[porq]

Look at it this way:

If sh*t hits the fan, the party will be blaming the clerics and not you!

[Bargol]

Maybe you should of done that in the next quest if you ran with them again?

Well...usually in a situation I give an excuse...like my house is on fire and drop/log.

[Truga]

When I heal I don't *expect* thanks, but if people are going to thank people for healing and I contributed I like to feel *inclueded* and it does annoy me a little bit when im ignored, especially in cases where I was the only one healing :rolleyes:

Just say "Yeah no problem man. I think you need to learn the difference between a FvS/Cleric and a bard icon, though. Have you played this game before?"

[Emili]

@OP: If you like running a bard get used to people ignoring you and praising the "real" healer in the group.

On a melee bard mind you I have healed many elite at level quests using heal scrolls, cure crit wands, and spells.

I specifically remember a run in gianthold where I was meleeing with the other melees and healing the entire party because the new cleric dropped all his spell points in the first couple encounters. At the end everyone was praising him for being a brilliant healer.....guess I should have only healed myself and let them all die.

Was running Epic Deeps with a group of melee ... it did not dawn on half of them that there were no arcane nor divines in the group 'til we be about to drop down for the demon fight lol, Bard's cc and heal fine. Give us a poised tight group of melee on the same page and a bard will handle the rest.

[Truga]

The biggest surprise is what you can pull off when you have a Torc on a Bard (or even worse healers like a Paladin).

On a Paladin life, I've solohealed elite at-level Offering of Blood, elite at-level Rainbow in the Dark, and several other at-level elites. A bard can do much more - I'd have no hesitation having a Spellsinger with a Torc soloheal at-level Invaders elite, Running with the Devils or other really high incoming damage quests like those.

My first ever Running with Devils run was with a warforged warchanter. Now I can't say any names (he specifically asked not to mention him, because it'd ruin his street name as a non-healer), but we basically never stopped. We proceeded to clear it some 6-7 more times, all runs being under 15 minutes long. All I could remember after we finished running was some blurry hallways we were steamrolling and actually having to work and use assassinate to get top kills. Yeah it was a TR grind group, and I went in without ever running it before, but still it was fun. Having 5 melees and a warchanter in a group equals win.

Bards can be the buffer, the healer, they can CC fine, they dish out dps, they increase everyone else's dps or DCs/spell points. The only weak point I notice on my bard is the somewhat low SP, but even that will get mostly fixed once the static group I run with starts running shrouds. Con-op+torc as a melee is pretty awesome.

[Emili]

Bards can be the buffer, the healer, they can CC fine, they dish out dps, they increase everyone else's dps or DCs/spell points. The only weak point I notice on my bard is the somewhat low SP, but even that will get mostly fixed once the static group I run with starts running shrouds. Con-op+torc as a melee is pretty awesome.

Torc + con op are nice on any blue bar in the frey of it...

[Kokanee]

The most expressive solo bard experience was in a Epic Devils Assault

A guildie brought his SS bard and soloed healed EDA.
It was a good group with lots of insta kills and good cc.
I was on my wizard and the bard kept me pleased with spell regen songs and extra DCs.
Not to mention I was free to necro away, since the party had displacement, haste, rage at all times.

No deaths, no Pots used, very smooth and fast run.

[Chette]

Oh don't worry man, it's not just you. It's not also your healing contribution that gets ignored, it's absolutely everything you do.

Can you heal? Don't ever expect a thank you, a potion, or even acknowledgement. Expect people to make claims of solo healing or doing no-healer runs, as if you didn't exist.

Can you buff? Doesn't matter, most people don't even know what bard songs did. I once had somebody tell me he didn't need a bard because he had a wizard. I asked him what buffs I (the wizard) could give him that gave him +9 to damage, and he just said "huhh??". After I explained how bard songs worked he still wouldn't let one in...

Can you DPS? Don't bother. Even if there's an artificer in the party people will probably relegate you to throwing heal scrolls (despite the fact that they will adamantly claim that bards can't heal, the only thing they do worse than heal is DPS).

Can you charm? OOOOOH boy, you'd better BELIEVE that nobody cares about this. Just shut up and heal me..oh and by the way you're a terrible healer and nobody cares...

Do you want to loot an SP saving or regenning item from a raid? Even though you drank 4 potions during said raid in order to heal and haste completely terrible players, you'll still get yelled at.

Ya. That's how bards work. They're the most powerful addition to any party/raid, and most people couldn't care less.

Enjoy playing yours, I know I do :)


The most expressive solo bard experience was in a Epic Devils Assault

A guildie brought his SS bard and soloed healed EDA.
It was a good group with lots of insta kills and good cc.
I was on my wizard and the bard kept me pleased with spell regen songs and extra DCs.
Not to mention I was free to necro away, since the party had displacement, haste, rage at all times.

No deaths, no Pots used, very smooth and fast run.

Hey, thats nothing man, did you see the post a few months back from the SS bard who not only solo-healed epic Devil Assault, he also solo-CCed it? No divines, no arcanes, just one bard and five melees. That guy gets the bardiest bard award in my books, but do you think he'll be let into a normal shroud or VoD?

[MaximusParthas]

I was on my SS bard recently in shroud, it was me and 1 cleric healing in part 5 the cleric dced just as harry dropped down, I solo healed the last fight no fuss........when harry died one of the party memebers started gushing at the absent cleric, omg well done man!!! you solo healed shroud I was kind of doubtful but you pulled it off!!! rotfl!!!

Was in another shroud with the same bard, was just me and a clonk who had 1200 sp healing in part 5 he blew his sp load when harry was still at 40% I healed the rest, he did have his aura and bursts going that helped. At the end someone else started gushing at the cleric wow you solo healed well done. Another person pointed out that the bard healed as well. That other person replied ok well 1 and a half healers then, sure I dont have aura, burst, heal or mass heal, but im half a healer with 500 more sp?

Shroud again on my warchanter we have 2 favoured souls so im thinking I wont have to do much healing, part 4 I realise only one FS is tossing heals so I help out there. Part 5 harry is at 60% and the favoured soul healing dc's. The other favoured soul continues dotting not throwing a single heal, and its up to me on my bard in the middle of the melee to keep them up. I pulled it off, thank goodness the dps was decent only had 1049 sp. To add insult to injury others notice that the FS had dced and started heaping praise on the remaining FS. Thankfully some noticed it was me doing the healing and thanked me.

When I heal I don't *expect* thanks, but if people are going to thank people for healing and I contributed I like to feel *inclueded* and it does annoy me a little bit when im ignored, especially in cases where I was the only one healing :rolleyes:

btw hordo good job in hard lob yesterday, was laggy and not the smoothest but you where pretty sharp on your bard with the spot healing and rebuffing those that died.

Likely they don't even realize you were healing them. So they give praise to whatever divine is still alive. In they're simplified eyes it must have been a cleric or favored soul.
The same happens to rogues who scroll heal in similar situations.
Nobody even notices.
I remember an Echrono where out of our 2 divines, 1 was dc'd and the other had just took a d door to shrine.
The arcanes had control of what few mobs were left and I solo scroll healed the ac evasion tank with my rogue. We completed, the other divine got back right before the end and all thanks went to him by default.
I was kinda shocked that he said nothing about not being there to do what he was being thanked for. I didn't even mention it. Wasn't the 1st time it happened and won't be the last.
I guess the moral of the story is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmfxiKbcZLU

[Jaid314]

on a side note, there have actually been two whole times since i started playing my bard that i did in fact get thanked for healing.

the first was after solo-healing the entire lordsmarch chain with a PUG. the second time was when the leader kicked a useless cleric out of the group and asked me to heal through a running with the devils farming group :p

but yeah... actually, i think those are the only times i got credit for *anything* other than songs.

on the other hand i find there does tend to be a lot of "huh, that went surprisingly smoothly. it's usually much harder" in groups with my bard. i just don't get any credit for it, is all ^^

[LordMond63]

@ the OP:

I can surely sympathize, as my main character is a capped Spellsinger. I just GR'ed her to increase her sp and healing capability so that she can be an even more effective backup healer. I don't think that I could pull off solo-healing end-game content (and I'm not too eager to put myself to the test), but I know that I can be the backup to one primary healer and make it work.

A bit of recogniztion and appreciation is always nice. But the only real affirmation I'm looking for is the successful completion. You and the game know what you did, even if other players are oblivious.

[Emili]

Couple of chanters, Pally tanked Horoth, Wiz tanked Sulu and ton of SA ;)

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/bflat01/DDo/ScreenShot00912.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/bflat01/DDo/ScreenShot00914.jpg

[thouston]

i play mostly melee types, i have a rogue, a ranger and a new paladin, a ss bard and a sorc. i just say thanks for the heals and buffs. i dont direct it to any specific player, so it covers everyone who helped me.

-my rogue struggles with no-fail heal scrolls during the heat of battle because of gear swaps.

-my ranger can self heal nicely, superior ardor clicky, ranger enhancements, and human enhancements.

-my paladin can heal? i can lay on hands x2 per rest, plus wands and pots. i am sure that im not doing it right, but i am slowly learning.

-my bard can heal himself quite nicely, i just dont have the confidence to group him with real toons so he mostly solo heals a barb hireling and that guy has not once said thank you for anything.

[Aashrym]

Couple of chanters, Pally tanked Horoth, Wiz tanked Sulu and ton of SA ;)

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/bflat01/DDo/ScreenShot00912.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/bflat01/DDo/ScreenShot00914.jpg


Funny thing about these is I've been in groups like this many times and I've still seen players drop because they think there are no healers regardless of how smoothly groups run filling a spot with a bard that are normally considered reserved for clerics or favored souls.

I've also seen players drop at the sight of more than one bard in the group.

[pjstechie]

Couple of chanters, Pally tanked Horoth, Wiz tanked Sulu and ton of SA ;)


and the arty gets no healing love in the "my bard gets no healing love" thread.

Typical

And you forgot to mention the fvs from the other tower lfm that didn't want to join because we had too many rogues.

[Chauncey1]

dont forget the water baloon throwing arties. i know ive saved te day more then once.

waater baloon AOE's works but have to have all 3

I totally forgot that when I had an arti, next life, I will make sure I do not forget.
Being self sufficient is good, being self sufficient AND being able to heal others is moar better.

[Emili]

and the arty gets no healing love in the "my bard gets no healing love" thread.

Typical

And you forgot to mention the fvs from the other tower lfm that didn't want to join because we had too many rogues.

Aye, yes... the Arty covered too.

May have been a very good thing the FvS did not join, I mean with attitude as such ... have to question his game playing?

[Freeman]

Way back when the cap was still level 10, I was running my bard in a pug through the Grey Moon. The cleric died on the bridge trap each time(About 25% into the quest), and my bard wound up carrying his stone until the end of the quest, healing the rest of the party. At the end of the second part, the party leader congratulated the cleric on doing a great job healing. That was about five+ years ago, and I would say things are about the same for bards.(Artis as well, but they've got some catching up to do in that department)

[FastTaco]

Hey, thats nothing man, did you see the post a few months back from the SS bard who not only solo-healed epic Devil Assault, he also solo-CCed it? No divines, no arcanes, just one bard and five melees. That guy gets the bardiest bard award in my books, but do you think he'll be let into a normal shroud or VoD?

That is impressive :)

Kokanee mentioned my bard(thanks!) who is a pure 20 melee spellsinger, no DC's at all... but the eSoS, claw set, 3 piece abishai, shintao and ravager sets worn help make the dps not bad.

[sheepface]

Always. I know i'm awesoem though so thats all that matters.