A reminder...

[mobrien316]

If you don't want to complete when Harry dies in part 5 of the Shroud, you can recall. You don't need to use Dimension Door to leave.


If I am out of SP at the part 5, and you want to leave without completing, just recall. I don't care how cheap SP pots are in the store, I am not going to drink one (not even a minor that I found in a chest) just to cast D-Door.

If you are so certain that you must use D-Door (even when at least 8 other people are telling you to recall) then feel free to carry SP pots you can pass to casters if they are out of mana. I am not, repeat NOT, going to use one of my own.



In my opinion, the only thing the D-Door is good for at the end of Part 5 is that when people see it go up it will (usually) make them think for a moment before automatically hitting the altar.

[jwdaniels]

The d-door thing is related to an old bug that has been fixed for a very long time - for a while you could not just recall out and end back in Meridia so you'd click the d-door and then walk out the entrance.

This is just an old habit dying hard. There are plenty of things that people do in game just because it used to do something or someone told them it did something without actually stopping to think about newer, better ways or if the old ways are still useful.

[FuzzyDuck81]

I always complete a shroud run when im done, but if i was to leave before the altar was clicked i'd always use the recall option, since if you DDoor & haven't left before some impatient sod hits the altar (luckily haven't seen any recently though there was one numpty the other day who hit the part 4 portal before any of the bluebars had shrined) you'll lose the chests.. if you recall & someone hits it, you can at least cancel the recall & get them.

[Thrudh]

This is just an old habit dying hard. There are plenty of things that people do in game just because it used to do something or someone told them it did something without actually stopping to think about newer, better ways or if the old ways are still useful.

In this experiment they put eight monkeys in a room. In the middle of the room is a ladder, leading to a bunch of bananas hanging from a hook on the ceiling. Each time a monkey tries to climb the ladder, all the monkeys are sprayed with ice water, which makes them miserable. Soon enough, whenever a monkey attempts to climb the ladder, all of the ther monkeys, not wanting to be sprayed, set upon him and beat him up. Soon, none of the eight monkeys ever attempts to climb the ladder.

One of the original monkeys is then removed, and a new monkey is put in the room. Seeing the bananas and the ladder, he wonders why none of the other monkeys are doing the obvious, but, undaunted, he immediately begins to climb the ladder. All the other monkeys fall upon him and beat him silly. He has no idea why. However, he no longer attempts to climb the ladder.

A second original monkey is removed and replaced. The newcomer again attempts to climb the ladder, but all the other monkeys hammer the **** out of him.

This includes the previous new monkey, who, grateful that he’s not on the receiving end this time, participates in the beating because all the other monkeys are doing it. However, he has no idea why he’s attacking the new monkey.

One by one, all the original monkeys are replaced, eight new monkeys are now in the room. None of them have ever been sprayed by ice water. None of them attempt to climb the ladder. All of them will enthusiastically beat up any new monkey who tries, without having any idea why.

[danotmano1998]

The d-door thing is related to an old bug that has been fixed for a very long time


I still wonder why people feel it necessary to dimension door out, because it actually takes LONGER to click the door, and go through the 2 loading screens than to just recall out..

I even asked this once in a pug and was immediately shouted down by other "more knowledgeable" players. Since then I just stand back and watch. *shrug*


Of course, since they fixed the end reward on Shroud... I have seen 95% of pugs stick around for the completion. This is up from maybe 75% of completions that I've witnessed before this update. So it's mostly a non-issue now.

[stainer]

I even asked this once in a pug and was immediately shouted down by other "more knowledgeable" players. Since then I just stand back and watch. *shrug*




I click the altar while they hash it out. It usually changes the conversation.

[Izzban]

I still wonder why people feel it necessary to dimension door out, because it actually takes LONGER to click the door, and go through the 2 loading screens than to just recall out..


It is probably related to your computer since some players can easily load 2 or more areas in the time it takes to recall out.

Aside from that, no reason to not recall.

[Vint]

I never not complete but when we get Harry to about 10% or so I will tell anyone who is leaving to slash death. In the time it takes someone to recall or DD, you will possibly find a griefer that hits the altar immediately. It drives up the repair bill, but it is imo, the easiet and safest way not to put yourself on timer.

[Bimbelbo]

http://ddowiki.com/images/WordOfRecall.png (http://ddowiki.com/page/Word_of_Recall)

[Ryiah]

Aside from that, no reason to not recall.

Unless you're a caster or can UMD a teleport scroll.

[madmaxhunter]

The new reason for the d-door, when you recall, you just stand there, like you're waiting to complete, d-door will split the dots and make it more obvious that people are leaving.

To OP. I kept my Archivist Necklace for such situations.

[GotSomeQuestions]

Either teleport out or /death. Anything else risks getting the completion without the chests.

But seriously, just complete the quest. Bonus chests on hard/elite, plus a sweet end reward list most of the time.

[Qhualor]

If you don't want to complete when Harry dies in part 5 of the Shroud, you can recall. You don't need to use Dimension Door to leave.


If I am out of SP at the part 5, and you want to leave without completing, just recall. I don't care how cheap SP pots are in the store, I am not going to drink one (not even a minor that I found in a chest) just to cast D-Door.

If you are so certain that you must use D-Door (even when at least 8 other people are telling you to recall) then feel free to carry SP pots you can pass to casters if they are out of mana. I am not, repeat NOT, going to use one of my own.



In my opinion, the only thing the D-Door is good for at the end of Part 5 is that when people see it go up it will (usually) make them think for a moment before automatically hitting the altar.

I know what you are saying and i agree, but the pools to regen mana are there even after Harry is dead so need to drink a pot or scroll it.

[LrdSlvrhnd]

A friend and I were doing a Shroud-a-thon leading up to her 20th, but neither of us wanted to get the completion on one particular run (her because ALL her friends would be available for the next one, so that's what she wanted for a 20th; me because I only had one character off timer lol).

She hit recall. I cast DD, stepped through, and exited.

I was halfway to the bank before she actually exited. Can't tell me recalling is faster! (And it had nothing to do with her loading screen, I was out the door before her "Recalling" bar was even done.)

If I don't want to finish for whatever reason... if there's a door up, I'll take it. If there isn't one and I'm on my monk, I'll recall. If there isn't one and I'm on my bard, I'll pop one and take it.

[djl]

What's really amusing are the people who join Hard runs and then still want to not complete. What is the reasoning behind that?

Anyway, as people have said teleport scrolls for UMD classes and /death for non-UMD are the safest bets.

[GlorifyQuC]

Recalling takes 3-4x longer than simply DDooring to the entrance and exiting.

[Caliban]

I think it might depend on your computer - some people take a lot longer on load screens than others.