MAX Int and DC for Drow Wizard; 62int 52 Necro DC

[jbendoski]

I'll start by saying Flam has everything; +4 into tomes, litany, +7int items. If it's on your caster wish list then Flam has it and Flam is also a completionist. I will also make mention that this is only achievable by a Drow wizard.

62int 52 Necro DC.
Oh don't get confused, the spell cost is 51sp, the DC is 52.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/Flam52neroDC.jpg

Got a few questions about Flam's build so here are the answers:

I have all 3 Wizard Past Lives and 2 Fvs past lives so I never take spell pen feats: my spell pen is 38/37 since epic Torc doesn't cover lvl 9 spells.

My sp averages at 2455 not sure fully buffed because to have max sp gear on I lose DCs.

My hp is generally 517 in lich but I can max it at 687 (honestly not worth it to max it ever, even tanking I only have 577to 599 depending on if I have rage up.)

To optimize my feat use I have to use a lesser at lvl 20, not really a problem since I always have a trapper lvl in me for lving purposes.
My feats: toughness, insightful reflexes, wizard past, completionist, nercro, g necro, bard past, enchant focus, max, emp, quicken, heighten,

My standard Necro DC (ship buffed and yugo) is 46.

Reaching completionist I did a 14sorc/1rogue/needed class and a lesser tr+5 to roll back to required class. Did a lot lives with a guildie and here is our guide. 37hours play timer per TR on normal xp. 28 hours during bonus xp weeks. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4199714

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/ScreenShot00001.jpg

6 enchant (ring)
3 exceptional (ring)
1 enchant (staff)
1 profane (litany)
2 ship
25 base
3 enhance
4 tome
4 profane (cookies)
3 alchemical (house D)
2 yugo
2 store
2 completion
+ 2 lich
2 capstone
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[korsat]

I'll start by saying Flam has everything; +4 into tomes, litany, +7int items. If it's on your caster wish list then Flam has it and Flam is also a completionist. I will also make mention that this is only achievable by a Drow wizard.

62int 52 Necro DC.
Oh don't get confused, the spell cost is 51sp, the DC is 52.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/Flam52neroDC.jpg


sorry, where's the math?who is flam?

Maybe 52 dc is enough to kill mobs with deathward, lol

[BDS]

Flam is completionist and doesn't know how to screenshot? :P

Seriously though, grats

[Candela90]

sorry, where's the math?who is flam?

Maybe 52 dc is enough to kill mobs with deathward, lol

+1 xD not logic, but funny

Honestly i dont like using things like 1-2 mins potions and abishai cookies. not worth it, as with 30+ spell pen and 44 necro DC u practically never miss (never saw miss with that DC and spell pen... so maybe there is 1:100000.... chance). In die-removable buffs i really accept/use only yugo and shippies.
Never saw a sense in pumping DC 44+. Maybe when the Forgotten Realms are up.

But grats for completionist. And for non-gimp hp on drow (seriously its only -2 to con. so why i always see drows with like 80 less hp than mine human? ;p).

[Jsbeer]

But grats for completionist. And for non-gimp hp on drow (seriously its only -2 to con. so why i always see drows with like 80 less hp than mine human? ;p).

Human adaptability gives +1 CON (which might take you to an even CON breakpoint and so add another 20HP), and Human toughness III for another 10. As a result Human can always get (although perhaps with sub-optimal AP choices) at least 30HP over a Drow, and possibly 50HP. Also, everyone tends to remember the exceptional cases......

[SirValentine]

62int 52 Necro DC.


Another request for breakdown, please. What do you have that's not listed in this thread:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289779

?

I like accurate references, and based on your screenshot, that thread is missing some thing(s).

[HungarianRhapsody]

Another request for breakdown, please. What do you have that's not listed in this thread:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=289779

?

I like accurate references, and based on your screenshot, that thread is missing some thing(s).

The only new thing that I know of is +2 Alchemical Int from LoB/MA weapons.

[sephiroth1084]

The only new thing that I know of is +2 Alchemical Int from LoB/MA weapons.
There are no alchemical weapons with +2 Int on them. The only options are Str, Dex, Con and Wis.

[Viisari]

The only new thing that I know of is +2 Alchemical Int from LoB/MA weapons.

The only source this game has for alchemical int is Deneith collectible potions. Those can give you up to +3 int and last for 2 minutes.

They were also used also used for this picture.


Honestly i dont like using things like 1-2 mins potions and abishai cookies. not worth it, as with 30+ spell pen and 44 necro DC u practically never miss (never saw miss with that DC and spell pen... so maybe there is 1:100000.... chance).

This is wrong, epics have plenty of mobs that have to debuffed with a necro dc of 44 and they can still save with a good chance. Trolls, orthons, desert gnolls and ogres for example. Non-caster thieflings in eDA also have around ~20-30% chance to save against it if they're not debuffed first.

With that said though, only ship buffs and yugo potions can be counted as sustainable, rest are for pretty pictures or time record attempts.

[MattiG]

It's mildly entertaining to hear folks get sorta animated about sustainable vs unsustainable when the screeny clearly shows stacks of 99 for each cookie. I bet Flam can cookie up for every eLOB he runs.

accomplishment threads seem to get derailed too easily these days, and it always seems like the OP faces some default level of skepticism when they have accomplished something that most have not. I, for one, happily admit my jealousy Flam! This rocks to such an extent that it almost makes me want to quit the game.

[jbendoski]

A lot of people have been asking for the breakdown. Honestly I have tried to do this several times myself on paper but I always leave something out because I have a lot of static gear that I don't count.

1) Rahkir Ring 6int +1int +2int
2) eStaff of Inner Sight +7int(+1)
3) Ship buff +2int
4) Drow; Base 20 +5
6) enhancments +3
7) +4 tome
8) +4 Abishai cookies (currently stacking with Litany) I have of 300 of each ATM
9) +3 Alchemical potion from House D 2min is plenty for the mob burst at the end of eLoB (and I know where to farm the collectables)
10) Yugo pot +2int
11) DDO Store pot +2int
12) Complitionist +2int
13) Litch +2int

I think that is everything, but if it doesn't add up then I forgot somethign again.
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/Flam52neroDC.jpg

[Carpone]

Human adaptability gives +1 CON (which might take you to an even CON breakpoint and so add another 20HP), and Human toughness III for another 10. As a result Human can always get (although perhaps with sub-optimal AP choices) at least 30HP over a Drow, and possibly 50HP. Also, everyone tends to remember the exceptional cases......
Once you reach a certain point, HP doesn't matter too much. Flam runs around without a 45 HP GS item most of the time as a Drow.

[Carpone]

Honestly i dont like using things like 1-2 mins potions and abishai cookies. not worth it
It's pumped up for a screenshot. Flam doesn't run around with the alchemical potions or abishai cookies all the time.


as with 30+ spell pen and 44 necro DC u practically never miss (never saw miss with that DC and spell pen... so maybe there is 1:100000.... chance). In die-removable buffs i really accept/use only yugo and shippies.
Never saw a sense in pumping DC 44+. Maybe when the Forgotten Realms are up..
Try running Epic Sands. 44 necro DC and 30 spell pen isn't high enough.

[HungarianRhapsody]

Try running Epic Sands. 44 necro DC and 30 spell pen isn't high enough.

I can verify this. When I scroll farm Scorrow, Efreti and Reavers in the scorpion pit in eADQ1, I start by throwing out a Symbol of Death and then a Circle of Death in order to knock some HP off the top of the swarm of enemies, but I don't get more than one or occasionally two enemies dead out of 15+ and I have a 42 Necro DC and a 29 spell penetration.

And those enemies aren't even Drow.

[Miow]

All i can say is impressive, I'd pick u first!

[ZennyoTheWise]

Very nice!

Now for the really noob question. Will you post the path you took to reach completionist and this build?

[gavijal]

Well if u look at myddo he/she is either not completionist or myddo is not showing thta, or Im wrong :) http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/flamicia/

[korsat]

ok now i know that also a splashed wf can go up to 50 fod dc for 2 minuts!

would you share the build?feats, skills and so on?what's your spell penetration and your dcs in normal conditions(ship+yugo only)?

[Iaga]

Well if u look at myddo he/she is either not completionist or myddo is not showing thta, or Im wrong :) http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/flamicia/My guess is that, and i know this will sound incredulous, myddo is, *gasp*, wrong!

[MrFister]

A lot of people have been asking for the breakdown. Honestly I have tried to do this several times myself on paper but I always leave something out because I have a lot of static gear that I don't count.

1) Rahkir Ring 6int +1int +2int
2) eStaff of Inner Sight +7int(+1)
3) Ship buff +2int
4) Drow; Base 20 +5
6) enhancments +3
7) +4 tome
8) +4 Abishai cookies (currently stacking with Litany) I have of 300 of each ATM
9) +3 Alchemical potion from House D 2min is plenty for the mob burst at the end of eLoB (and I know where to farm the collectables)
10) Yugo pot +2int
11) DDO Store pot +2int
12) Complitionist +2int
13) Litch +2int

I think that is everything, but if it doesn't add up then I forgot somethign again.


6 enchant (ring)
3 exceptional (ring)
1 enchant (staff)
1 profane (litany)
2 ship
25 base
3 enhance
4 tome
4 profane (cookies)
3 alchemical (house D)
2 yugo
2 store
2 completion
+ 2 lich
2 capstone
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62

Thanks for the profane stacking and capstone updates

[Thrudh]

6
3
1
2
25
3
4
4
3
2
2
2
+ 2
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59


So what is missing!?

Wizard capston is +2
Litany of the Dead is another +1, right?

[Tid12]

6
3
1
2
25
3
4
4
3
2
2
2
+ 2
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59

So what is missing!?

Litany for another +1 is one and Capstone.

[MrFister]

Thanks guys, I've updated my post to include those.

[Vordax]

Well if u look at myddo he/she is either not completionist or myddo is not showing thta, or Im wrong :) http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/flamicia/

If you look at that page with firefox you see 5 lives total, if I look with Chrome I see about 18 lives. MyDDO doesn't show past lives very well past 5.

Vordax

[gavijal]

If you look at that page with firefox you see 5 lives total, if I look with Chrome I see about 18 lives. MyDDO doesn't show past lives very well past 5.

Vordax

Oh, ty :)

[jbendoski]

updated.

'll start by saying Flam has everything; +4 into tomes, litany, +7int items. If it's on your caster wish list then Flam has it and Flam is also a completionist. I will also make mention that this is only achievable by a Drow wizard.

62int 52 Necro DC.
Oh don't get confused, the spell cost is 51sp, the DC is 52.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/Flam52neroDC.jpg

Got a few questions about Flam's build so here are the answers:

I have all 3 Wizard Past Lives and 2 Fvs past lives so I never take spell pen feats: my spell pen is 36/35 since epic Torc doesn't cover lvl 9 spells.

My sp averages at 2455 not sure fully buffed because to have max sp gear on I lose DCs.

My hp is generally 517 in lich but I can max it at 687 (honestly not worth it to max it ever, even tanking I only have 577to 599 depending on if I have rage up.)

To optimize my feat use I have to use a lesser at lvl 20, not really a problem since I always have a trapper lvl in me for lving purposes.
My feats: toughness, insightful reflexes, wizard past, completionist, nercro, g necro, bard past, enchant focus, max, emp, quicken, heighten,

My standard Necro DC (ship buffed and yugo) is 46.

Reaching completionist I did a 14sorc/1rogue/needed class and a lesser tr+5 to roll back to required class. Did a lot lives with a guildie and here is our guide. 37hours play timer per TR on normal xp. 28 hours during bonus xp weeks. http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4199714

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/jbendoski/ScreenShot00001.jpg

6 enchant (ring)
3 exceptional (ring)
1 enchant (staff)
1 profane (litany)
2 ship
25 base
3 enhance
4 tome
4 profane (cookies)
3 alchemical (house D)
2 yugo
2 store
2 completion
+ 2 lich
2 capstone
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