Veteran Status II

[KookieKobold]

As of right now, this is not functioning as intended!

Mostly since nobody is able to do it.

Stay tuned for further information.



**** Further Information *****

This is now available to be poked at via the DDO store as well as those who have the favor capable of unlocking it!

[Sleepsalot]

Hmmm.. Not in the Store either..

Sleeps :D :) :D

[Failedlegend]

Dammit and I was going to jump on Lamma to test this out when i got home (i dont have any characters high enough to do the new content - I TRed my only 20...because he was so broken)

[TheDearLeader]

At least you got a laugh out of me with this one.

[Rumbaar]

Yeah I logged on to get it from the store at least, didn't find it. Logged off.

[ArcherBarry]

I just hopes its working for the summer expansion, give my Druid a little start.

[-Zephyr-]

I just hopes its working for the summer expansion, give my Druid a little start.

Chances are it won't work with druids right after their release, as Veteran Status I was already non-functionnal on artificers (and artificers only) when they were released.

[danotmano1998]

Chances are it won't work with druids right after their release, as Veteran Status I was already non-functionnal on artificers (and artificers only) when they were released.

Shhh!
This time they're going to get it right!! :)


As of right now, this is not functioning as intended!

Oh.. em.. nevermind then. :rolleyes:

Ok, NEXT time they're going to get it right!!

[Failedlegend]

Chances are it won't work with druids right after their release, as Veteran Status I was already non-functionnal on artificers (and artificers only) when they were released.

It wasn't broken it was WAI..they wanted people to experience Artificers from the beginning


Now dev types...hows Vet Status II coming I want to try it out

[ArcherBarry]

Yeah, i got artificers, i remember it not working.
Surely they learn though and can make it work this time?
Summer feels soo long away...

WAI? Please let us choose.

[Marthesis]

I am absolutely thrilled at this feature. Level 4 wasn't enough to try out quirky builds and see how they work imo, level 7 will allow me to grab a prestige from the start though. I don't have a toon with 3k favor atm, so its time to favor-farm... but if this comes out before I reach the goal, I'm buying it.

I'll be very interested to know when testing for it starts working on Lamannia.

[-Zephyr-]

It wasn't broken it was WAI..they wanted people to experience Artificers from the beginning

I never said it was broken :)
I just said it was not working. And given it was WAI, it'll probably be the same for druids.

[Lord_Darquain]

I really like this idea. A+

[Rumbaar]

When will Veteran Status III L10 be aviable for purchase on the DDO store?

Can look for Veteran Status X and a L20 character being able to be made?! :p :D :cool: ;)

[Failedlegend]

When will Veteran Status III L10 be aviable for purchase on the DDO store?

Can look for Veteran Status X and a L20 character being able to be made?! :p :D :cool: ;)

No Lvl 7 should be the limit...its high enough to get a tier 1 prestige + 1 level...go for quick tests....anything more is a little ridiculous.

[nayozz]

with veteran 1 and veteran 2

now you have the chance to group with 50% of all ddo levels...

is your friend lvl 1 ? you can make a lvl 4 !
is your friend lvl 10 ? you can make a lvl 7 ! (and ask your friend to really hold up experience and do not level up until you can level to 8 :P)

[Sidewaysgts86]

My questions are related to how this will work with those of us who have vet status I already.

if we get this and already have vet status I, will we have the option to make a level 4 OR level 7? Or will we be required to now make all level 7s? How will vet status I affect the price of vet status II, if at all? Ie will we get some kind of discount on vet status II for having vet status I? Etc and etc.

[Sleepsalot]

They way I understand this it is a new buy in addition to what you have now..

Sleeps :D :) :D


My questions are related to how this will work with those of us who have vet status I already.

if we get this and already have vet status I, will we have the option to make a level 4 OR level 7? Or will we be required to now make all level 7s? How will vet status I affect the price of vet status II, if at all? Ie will we get some kind of discount on vet status II for having vet status I? Etc and etc.

[Failedlegend]

with veteran 1 and veteran 2

now you have the chance to group with 50% of all ddo levels...

is your friend lvl 1 ? you can make a lvl 4 !
is your friend lvl 10 ? you can make a lvl 7 ! (and ask your friend to really hold up experience and do not level up until you can level to 8 :P)

I'm actually hoping they'll make it so you can leave the ship anywhere from level 2 - 7.



My questions are related to how this will work with those of us who have vet status I already.

if we get this and already have vet status I, will we have the option to make a level 4 OR level 7? Or will we be required to now make all level 7s? How will vet status I affect the price of vet status II, if at all? Ie will we get some kind of discount on vet status II for having vet status I? Etc and etc.

Its most likely going to be like the Plat Bank...Buy the LvL 4 than upgrade to Lvl 7....I'm actually hoping buying the Lvl 7 version allows TRs to start at Lvl 4

[Ghost6989]

I highly doubt they will start letting TRs start being able to use Vet Status. Ironic considering they would fit the description a little better. But yeah, TRs will imo always be starting from lvl one. Even though letting them get a boost from Vet Status to lvl 4 would allow them to TR again faster which would mean more money for Turbine.

[FuzzyDuck81]

This looks nice.. will be cool to roll up a new wizzy without going through the whole "just use masters touch & carnifex" introductory stage :)

[Demaril]

do we have to own vet 1 to buy vet 2 out of intrest?

[Yan_PL]

that's just korthos char + 200k xp. no TR, no other fancy stuff. just so you can "skip" beginning part whenever you want to make new character.

I can see how this change will make me buy another character slot - i attained 3k favor on Sarlona, and i already filled my char slots there, and I'm not very interested in playing on other servers - thus, if I'll ever want to roll another character, I'll need a char slot for it; and then i'll be able to start right at level 7 :3.

anyway, 3.5k favor mark seems to be more reasonable choice, as we have 400 - 1000 - 1750 - 2500 rewards scheme.

[Phemt81]

They should make then improved veteran status: can open hard difficulty quests and master veteran status: can open elite difficulty quests. :cool:

Would be lame to have a level 7 toon who must do kortos quests x3 times, don't you agree?


do we have to own vet 1 to buy vet 2 out of intrest?

nice question!

[Failedlegend]

They should make then improved veteran status: can open hard difficulty quests and master veteran status: can open elite difficulty quests. :cool:
!

No thats a special perk for TRs and VIPs Only.

[Sleepsalot]

No you need a level 7 toon to get the VetII statis


do we have to own vet 1 to buy vet 2 out of intrest?

[Phemt81]

No thats a special perk for TRs and VIPs Only.

True, at the moment...

[Failedlegend]

True, at the moment...

I meant it should stay that way

[TemperanceC]

When will it be available on Lamannia? I am vip I tried to purchase it but it doesn't show up in the store at all.

[Scraap]

Seems it made it up. At least the unlock from favor.

Is it intentional that everything but wraps is electric (those are plain)?

[goodspeed]

do we have to own vet 1 to buy vet 2 out of intrest?

I think vet 1 is unlock able at 2k some odd favor. So ud get 1 before 2.

As far as ddo store. No idea.

[Sleepsalot]

Vet 1 is 1k total favor or 995TP from the store. And still not sure if Vet 1 is needed.
Sleeps :D :) :)


I think vet 1 is unlock able at 2k some odd favor. So ud get 1 before 2.

As far as ddo store. No idea.

[PhaerV]

As of right now, this is not functioning as intended! Mostly since nobody is able to do it.

Stay tuned for further information.

**** Further Information *****

This is now available to be poked at via the DDO store as well as those who have the favor capable of unlocking it!

So, it has been asked...
Do you need Veteran Status I to get the new Level 7 veteran?
and
How much does it cost in the DDO Store?

[Buttkierownsmade]

Its in the store and maybe ya but it costs like1295 points for it

[Sleepsalot]

Vet II is 1495 TP in the store I t rather nice though, As for Vet i being needed not sure really..

Sleeps :D :) :D


So, it has been asked...
Do you need Veteran Status I to get the new Level 7 veteran?
and
How much does it cost in the DDO Store?

[voxson5]

Some of the vet 2 gear layouts is nice - I like how monks get the ring of trollish regeneration (not that it is overly good.. but its a novelty to have)

The boots are a welcome addition for a new toon as well, +10% striding straight off the boat? yes please

Gear varies, looks like vet 1 layout with a few nice upgrades (you still get class appropriae korthos gear)

[Failedlegend]

Some of the vet 2 gear layouts is nice - I like how monks get the ring of trollish regeneration (not that it is overly good.. but its a novelty to have)

The boots are a welcome addition for a new toon as well, +10% striding straight off the boat? yes please

Gear varies, looks like vet 1 layout with a few nice upgrades (you still get class appropriae korthos gear)

I still would have liked the ability to leave the boat whenever you so choose....ie. Lvl 6

[SirShen]

Monks get +3 handwraps and all the others get +2 shock weapons WHY?

Also when i put boots on my monk I get +0 to movement speed and every time a monster comes you get a debuff with movement speed WHY?

[Failedlegend]

Vet II is 1495 TP in the store I t rather nice though, As for Vet i being needed not sure really..

Sleeps :D :) :D

If that's the stand alone price I think that's fine but it SHOULD be cheaper for people who have Vet 1...if Vet 1 IS required than that price is too high.

[falcon2030]

Just bought Vet 2 status on Lamma and created a new character (was goin to play around with Wiz12/ftr6/rogue2). I do not have Vet 1 (at least teh store gave me the option to buy it and the characters I have on lamma do not have the favor) and when I logged in with my new character it did not send me to the boat but instead to Korthos. It would be nice to know if I need Vet 1 to get teh Vet 2 bonus, as this is what it appears to be.

didn't know if this is WAI but I will be filing a Bug erport Just in case :D

[falcon2030]

Update:
I exited out of the game and relogged to see if it reset--> nope
I then recreated the character to check to se if I could reset (just incase because I was already in teh Korthos chain) --> nope still end up in Korthos not on boat;

Then I bought Vet I and recreated the character --> now have Vet II and can chose to start at lvl 1, 4 or 7.

Conclusion, apparently you must have Vet I for Vet II to work you cannot just buy Vet II. DEV's: if this is WAI I would reconsider the pricing, a comparable price to Vet I would seem more on point considering the combined cost accrued. if Not WAI please look into this.

[Rumbaar]

I think Vet II should allow TR's to start at L4 as a perk.

[~rachealgoss]

Bought Vet status 7 and rolled up a toon - everything worked fine during the creation. Got my gear for her and noticed a few things

1 she got the chocolate 6 year birthday cake
2 she got the cake of wishes
3 she got a BtA sibreys cake and still got the BtC one from Korthos

in line with these items - all my toons here got the 6year cake but no one got the cake of wishes. Was this supposed to happen this way?
Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

[Iwant_DiabloThree]

The whole notion that a brand new, just created toon, who has never seen a kobold or met up with his first dragon can bypass the first 6 levels of the game while a TR who "Remembers a bit about his prior lives" must start at level 1 befuddles me.
A new toon who does not have a real need to have an expanded bank account yet can get right to work on getting his new slots, while a TR has to wait and run countless, what I like to call Training Quests, just to get to the right level to even start getting House K favor. Personally I would have liked Vet II to allow a TR to start at level 4, but that's just my opinion and my wife long ago taught me the true value of my opinion :)

As a new player to Lamannia I was just enlightened as to why I am only finding parties to run with on Lamannia that are, well let's just say they are unacceptable, and it is forcing me to solo everything and live without doing epic runs on the new content, if any of you reading this are part of the circle of players that I am seeking please drop me a line.
I am on the G server if you wish to look up my stats before extending me an invitation.

[MartinusWyllt]

Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

My guess is that if there are BtA cakes handed out it will be a 1-time only event.

[Sleepsalot]

I have rolled up 4 level 7 toons they did not get any Cakes of any sort.. But upon doing a Reincarnation on one,, the Cakes and other items appeared in the Pack..

Sleeps :D :) :D



Bought Vet status 7 and rolled up a toon - everything worked fine during the creation. Got my gear for her and noticed a few things

1 she got the chocolate 6 year birthday cake
2 she got the cake of wishes
3 she got a BtA sibreys cake and still got the BtC one from Korthos

in line with these items - all my toons here got the 6year cake but no one got the cake of wishes. Was this supposed to happen this way?
Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

My main issue with Veteran 7 is basically the same qualm (and turned out to be true, in my experience) as Vet status 4. For seasoned players (assuming they aren't just TRing one of their toons) pop another toon to experiment, sure, 4 levels (and now 7) come handy. However, for the novice it is a really, really, really bad thing. I'm not sure what triggered you to think that giving the option to start at lvl7 could be good for the game population skill. There already is a lot of skill disparity from those whose have been playing this game for years and those who are trying the game or have begun a subscription. You spent a lot of resources in getting people somewhat ready via the Korthos story line and then "graduating" to the Harbor. With the availability of Vet4 (via store or 1000 fav), I get the sense many players are skipping that crucial part of their early DDO skills. That's when you get 70HP lvl 10 toons or lvl 11 rogues with 19 Search. And this skill disparity is pretty much the reason there are so many private channels dedicated to TRing or just plain ol' questing/raiding. Now that's going to be even more painfully obvious when you could get a lvl7 toon with literally zero experience and starter gear. That thought will cause many people (including myself) to be even more hesitant to taken any pugger off the LFM panel. This will only enforce the private chat channels and this will only grow the proverbial skill chasm between the true veterans and those who are new to the game. This could not be good for the game long term. Splitting the population is that way will only cause discontent and make the game very much unenjoyable for those new players who do not have neither the gear, nor a circle of in-game friends.

My 2c.

[MartinusWyllt]

Someone completely new would have to level a toon to 7 first in order to buy vet II from the store and they'd have to buy vet I first, right?

Not that getting 7 is hard, but everyone would have had at least seen Korthos at least once at 1st level.

Vet II would be very useful in going higher than 100 favor on every server.

[Kokanee]

My main issue with Veteran 7 is basically the same qualm (and turned out to be true, in my experience) as Vet status 4. For seasoned players (assuming they aren't just TRing one of their toons) pop another toon to experiment, sure, 4 levels (and now 7) come handy. However, for the novice it is a really, really, really bad thing. I'm not sure what triggered you to think that giving the option to start at lvl7 could be good for the game population skill. There already is a lot of skill disparity from those whose have been playing this game for years and those who are trying the game or have begun a subscription. You spent a lot of resources in getting people somewhat ready via the Korthos story line and then "graduating" to the Harbor. With the availability of Vet4 (via store or 1000 fav), I get the sense many players are skipping that crucial part of their early DDO skills. That's when you get 70HP lvl 10 toons or lvl 11 rogues with 19 Search. And this skill disparity is pretty much the reason there are so many private channels dedicated to TRing or just plain ol' questing/raiding. Now that's going to be even more painfully obvious when you could get a lvl7 toon with literally zero experience and starter gear. That thought will cause many people (including myself) to be even more hesitant to taken any pugger off the LFM panel. This will only enforce the private chat channels and this will only grow the proverbial skill chasm between the true veterans and those who are new to the game. This could not be good for the game long term. Splitting the population is that way will only cause discontent and make the game very much unenjoyable for those new players who do not have neither the gear, nor a circle of in-game friends.

My 2c.

Some of your arguments are valid however, having this option in ddo store is not going to really change the learning curve of the game.

This will be really good for:
1- the mid to high level and veterans to experiment on new build more easily.
2- People with many TR's to easily create Mules to store the BTA stuff.
3- The casual players that wish to gain an "edge" and spend less time getting up to speed on new toons.
4- Favor Farmers - People will quickly regain the TP spent and easily fly through early content to get easy Favor.

I don't really believe that there will be many "Korthos-Fresh" people buying this.

[btakeo]

it seems like people are missing a small detail about the vet 2 and the xp tomes. in other games, when an expansion comes out that includes a level cap raise and new high level content, most games will do something to increase the speed of getting through the low levels/old content in order to get more people into the new content faster. its been like this in any game i can ever remember playing that had an expansion like the one coming this summer.

i know the level cap has been raised here multiple times, but you didnt have to purchase an expansion to play the new higher level content. they didnt have a reason to speed people through before like they do now.

[Burtle]

I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

[Sleepsalot]

Yes it is a Known issues listed here http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=178590

Sleeps :D :) :D


I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

[-Zephyr-]

I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

Look at the known issues list. Vet status cannot complete because of the Minautor.
You either have to start on Korthos, or /death, use a teleport rod to get out of the ship.

[Burtle]

Look at the known issues list. Vet status cannot complete because of the Minautor.
You either have to start on Korthos, or /death, use a teleport rod to get out of the ship.
but..but...no nifty gear???

[HernandoCortez]

Looks like they will give lvl 7s better gear. Thats good.

[indigokid]

quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

[Failedlegend]

quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

No you don't get it and lamma has a separate TP pool...you get free tp there as well so your not wasting

[Sleepsalot]

And right now the ship is messed up you have to start at level 1 if you want off the ship.. With out typing /death or using a teleport rod.
Sleeps :D :) :D


quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

[indigokid]

No you don't get it and lamma has a separate TP pool...you get free tp there as well so your not wasting

How do I get enough TP to buy it? it shows I only have about 700? Where does it get this amount from? I have more TP on other servers.

[Bekki]

As of right now, this is not functioning as intended!

Mostly since nobody is able to do it.

Stay tuned for further information.



**** Further Information *****

This is now available to be poked at via the DDO store as well as those who have the favor capable of unlocking it!

Morning KookieKobold,

I was wondering, with Veterans status II, would have to go to Level 7 exclusively?
Or could you stop at any point between Lvl 4 and 7?

I love the option to hit Level 7 put of the gate; that sounds AWESOME!
But I don't want to be locked in to Level 7... :( As I do like running the lower level stuff.

I would still like the option to go 1st level, 4th level, or 7th...
Or maybe any level between 4 and 7...

That would be sweet...

Thanks for the hard work!

[MartinusWyllt]

How do I get enough TP to buy it? it shows I only have about 700? Where does it get this amount from? I have more TP on other servers.

Go see sir pointsalot under the harbor bridge (jumping off the right side (when facing the bridge from the auctioneer), or market wall side of the bridge should see you on a ledge where you can find him). You can get 2000 TP right at every 24 hrs.

[Bekki]

How do I get enough TP to buy it? it shows I only have about 700? Where does it get this amount from? I have more TP on other servers.

Is that you Lama total? Or home server total?

You points pool is Account based save for Lama I thought..
which means one account, one pool of Turbine points.

Your account on Lamania has its own separate pool...

On live I didn't think it differed from server to server...

Just seen this from MartinusWyllt ...



Go see sir pointsalot under the harbor bridge (jumping off the right side (when facing the bridge from the auctioneer), or market wall side of the bridge should see you on a ledge where you can find him). You can get 2000 TP right at every 24 hrs.

That should helP you out.
Cool! I have to check this out on Lamania...

[indigokid]

Go see sir pointsalot under the harbor bridge (jumping off the right side (when facing the bridge from the auctioneer), or market wall side of the bridge should see you on a ledge where you can find him). You can get 2000 TP right at every 24 hrs.

I thought you were messing with me, but I see that you're not. Thanks a lot!

[MartinusWyllt]

I thought you were messing with me, but I see that you're not. Thanks a lot!

They should make Sir Pointsalot a troll...he's already under the bridge.

[SisAmethyst]

Looks like they will give lvl 7s better gear. Thats good.

I hope they do, as it will be ridicoulous if you just start with some minor +1/+2 gear. As this would mean if you do all low level quests (Korthos, Harbor, ...) for favor you probably hit level 9/10 and still not got better loot, nor have the money to buy better. This would result in first timers enter Gianthold with nearly nothing on and get the heavy beating.


...

I would still like the option to go 1st level, 4th level, or 7th...
Or maybe any level between 4 and 7...

That would be sweet...

Thanks for the hard work!

You get the choice at the beginning to either:
- start at level 1 in Korthos as a ship wrecked
- start as level 4 in Stormreach
- start as level 7 in Stormreach

... so yes, you can skip this if you really desire ;)

[danotmano1998]

I highly doubt they will start letting TRs start being able to use Vet Status. Ironic considering they would fit the description a little better. But yeah, TRs will imo always be starting from lvl one. Even though letting them get a boost from Vet Status to lvl 4 would allow them to TR again faster which would mean more money for Turbine.

Meh, this is mostly a non-issue. The first 7 levels of TR'ing are the least painful. Now if they whacked off the LAST 7 levels, THAT would be epic. Not that I'm looking for that to happen. Or even approve of the idea. Except maybe to flatten that xp curve a bit, but that's another thread entirely.

[Bekki]

I hope they do, as it will be ridicoulous if you just start with some minor +1/+2 gear. As this would mean if you do all low level quests (Korthos, Harbor, ...) for favor you probably hit level 9/10 and still not got better loot, nor have the money to buy better. This would result in first timers enter Gianthold with nearly nothing on and get the heavy beating.



You get the choice at the beginning to either:
- start at level 1 in Korthos as a ship wrecked
- start as level 4 in Stormreach
- start as level 7 in Stormreach

... so yes, you can skip this if you really desire ;)

Sweet, Thanks.

[Failedlegend]

You get the choice at the beginning to either:
- start at level 1 in Korthos as a ship wrecked
- start as level 4 in Stormreach
- start as level 7 in Stormreach

... so yes, you can skip this if you really desire ;)

I was kind of hoping they'd allow you to leave anywhere between 1 & 7..,just allow the pilot to send you to the tower at any time between 1-7 (Drop the dream selection from lounging dragon lady on the boxes add dialog saying "Speak to the minotaur to get your stuff and the pilot if you wish to leave) leaving at 1-4 will get you lvl 4 gear, 5-7 will get you Lvl 7 Gear

[cdbd3rd]

They should make Sir Pointsalot a troll...he's already under the bridge.

I have a spare character parked next to him so i just have to grab points on my way to whichever character I'm gonna play with. (Or log in, grab points, log out when I don't have time to play.)


As for the topic of Vet II - last time I tried last day or two, I was still unable to get off the ship with my new level 7.

[MartinusWyllt]

As for the topic of Vet II - last time I tried last day or two, I was still unable to get off the ship with my new level 7.

It is broken. You're not getting your starter gear until that is fixed. Your only options now are to either /death or buy a teleport rod.

[cdbd3rd]

It is broken. You're not getting your starter gear until that is fixed. Your only options now are to either /death or buy a teleport rod.

Char ain't important, he's just parked for the time being. Just wanted to point it out for anyone reading thru who may not have been aware of the continuing issue.

[Failedlegend]

It is broken. You're not getting your starter gear until that is fixed. Your only options now are to either /death or buy a teleport rod.

It works fine for me IIRC the issue only pertain to people buying VET II who dont have VET I...although I haven't been on Lama in a few days

[Sleepsalot]

No until a few hours ago it was not working and was posted as a Known issue the last update before today.
Sleeps :D :) :D


It works fine for me IIRC the issue only pertain to people buying VET II who dont have VET I...although I haven't been on Lama in a few days

[Moonsickle]

I can't log into Lamannia... but I had Vet Status II and made 2 characters with it... it was 1495TP

DDO Store on Lam is screwy... had to knock off filter to get to some items.


gear isn't too great... but you can use all Chrono items and/or Red Fens starting at level 7...

and only a level from level 8 Pirate gear [ can use lvl 4 gear till then ]



[edit] P.S. DOH!!! should have last post date but I had it on the 24th