Enough is enough, NO MORE GREASE SPELLS FOR HIRELINGS!

[suitepotato]

Dammit, Turbine. What in the Nine Hells is wrong with you people? How many of the lowbie casters have grease and for the sake of all that is holy, WHY???

With the store hirelings I got, I should be able to blaze through harbor content on elite. Not a cakewalk blaze, but not a titanic struggle either. The worst thing should be the lightning that the kobold shamans toss around. No, instead the worst thing is the sabotage my own hirelings are causing.

I should not need to be two levels higher than the quest on elite to get just a tenth of the way through Butcher's Path before kobolds gang stomp me and the hirelings because they won't stop throwing freaking grease everywhere.

And while we're at it, can we please give similar limits to enemy caster spells with regard to range? Bolts that go down hundred meter hallways while ours peter out at a fraction of that?

Grrrrr...

[Pape_27]

so..... basically you chose hirelings with the spell grease and effectively griefed yourself?

lol, sorry, but thats funny :p

[suitepotato]

so..... basically you chose hirelings with the spell grease and effectively griefed yourself?

lol, sorry, but thats funny :p

The hirelings in question don't have it listed in their description because it is not available on their hotbar for you to invoke purposely.

[Sleepsalot]

Most harbor quests can be run on elite with a healer type hireling there is really no need for any thing but maybe a Barb or Fighter hireling. The only low level Quest that you may need more for is Cannith Crystal.. Other then that they are a waste of time and money..

This coming from a Guy that spent way to much on hirelings at the start of Playing the game..

Sleeps :D :) :D

[Ausdoerrt]

People use caster hires? O___o

[ferrite]

I've never bought a hireling from the DDO store, mainly because the AI is so poor on the hirelings in-game. I assumed the same would be true of the store bought variety, and I'd hate to spend TP only to be disappointed.. its unfortunate that you got a dud hireling. I believe they've been working on hirelings for a number of years now, so if they aren't working well by now then its unlikely they ever will. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Best advice I can give is don't waste TP on hirelings, unless you have extra points to burn.

[lhidda]

If they have grease they should also have fom.? Bards can do both. That would be funny i guess.

[Ausdoerrt]

I've never bought a hireling from the DDO store, mainly because the AI is so poor on the hirelings in-game. I assumed the same would be true of the store bought variety, and I'd hate to spend TP only to be disappointed.. its unfortunate that you got a dud hireling. I believe they've been working on hirelings for a number of years now, so if they aren't working well by now then its unlikely they ever will. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Best advice I can give is don't waste TP on hirelings, unless you have extra points to burn.

A friend of mine once bought a rogue hireling from the DDO store (mechanic iirc), and she couldn't do traps in a quest below her level.

[NaturalHazard]

People use caster hires? O___o

is it cheaper than haste pots?

[Razcar]

People use caster hires? O___o
I sometimes use them for Haste on Melee (in quests where I kill the trash mobs). Usually get a Bard though, for songs as well. I won't bother in really low levels though where Haste pots give about the same duration.

I have them sing at the entrance and cast Haste and Blur or Displacement and then I leave them. When the Haste runs out I call them (if there's no mobs around) to reapply. They are useful as buff stations.

[Yskuma]

How many of the lowbie casters have grease and for the sake of all that is holy, WHY???

Me. Always.


Grease is an extremely valuable party buff.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

How many of the lowbie casters have grease and for the sake of all that is holy, WHY???


I carry it on every toon I can. Didn't anyone tell you it's a party buff?

[KillEveryone]

Most harbor quests can be run on elite with a healer type hireling there is really no need for any thing but maybe a Barb or Fighter hireling. The only low level Quest that you may need more for is Cannith Crystal.. Other then that they are a waste of time and money..

This coming from a Guy that spent way to much on hirelings at the start of Playing the game..

Sleeps :D :) :D

All harbor quests can be soloed on elite at level. Much easier with CSW pots and twink gear. Hirelings are cheaper than pots but I'd rather have the pot because at least I know it will do what I want when I want and not state that they will obey and just stand there picking their butt.

I also have greese memorized on every character that can cast it, even at lvl 20.

[KillEveryone]

is it cheaper than haste pots?

Well now, if there is a haste clicky hire, I may use them more considering how many haste pots I consume.

[Fejj]

People use caster hires? O___o

Bring a sorc hierling out on Vale slayers sometimes ... its hillarious.

Not only are you hasted full time, but they dance everything out there.

Its way better than a divine type.

[glouky]

When playing a WF FvS, I used to take a fleshie arcane to cross heal, buff, and firewall as background. That was funny, but it requires a gimpy character (not fully self sufficient divine).

[AZgreentea]

The hirelings in question don't have it listed in their description because it is not available on their hotbar for you to invoke purposely.
A recent discovery of mine is the complete list of available spells for hireling casters is available in their Compendium Description. For example:

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Hireling:Barrage

[Razcar]

A recent discovery of mine is the complete list of available spells for hireling casters is available in their Compendium Description. For example:

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Hireling:Barrage
Hahaha, haven't seen this feat before, hilarious:

"Hireling Trap Reflexes: Grants you a +20 bonus on your Reflex saves vs. Traps because you are too dumb to move out of the way."

Can we get this feat for PC's too please? :)

[mobrien316]

A friend of mine once bought a rogue hireling from the DDO store (mechanic iirc), and she couldn't do traps in a quest below her level.

I just bought a rogue hireling for my TR'd fighter to do Repossession with. She was sixth level (the quest is level four) and I was doing it on elite for the BB.

In the room with all the artwork on the pedastals she blew up all but one trap. In other quests (that were also two levels below her character level) she simply couldn't find any trapboxes.

It was understandably frustrating...

[InTheBox]

Gotta watch out for those Rogue hireling Acrobats! Tumble of 30... but trap skills of 3.

[Chai]

Elite should be difficult. If you are not using tactics running an elite quest at level, you should buy the farm. Yes being experienced and metagaming does help, but thats mostly trap locations ans quest objectives.

That being said, the hireling shouldnt be the reason for your character death. Most convenient solution, get a different hireling.

[mobrien316]

Elite should be difficult. If you are not using tactics running an elite quest at level, you should buy the farm. Yes being experienced and metagaming does help, but thats mostly trap locations ans quest objectives.

That being said, the hireling shouldnt be the reason for your character death. Most convenient solution, get a different hireling.

I think if you use a hireling rogue they should be able to do traps in a quest two levels below their character level. What other reason is there to buy a hireling rogue?

If I had been using a sixth level hireling rogue in a level 8 quest I could understand the difficulty. But this was as frustratingly stupid as using a level 6 fighter hireling in a level 4 quest and finding he can't hit anything because his BAB is too low.

[silvermesh]

The funny thing about this is I'm almost positive they took out all the grease from hirelings a long while back because party buff or not, it gets annoying spamming constantly. They got it back faily recently when they "improved" the AI to make it more responsive. The more efficient you are the worse it is because usually its a situation where you've just killed everything and the hire hoses grease everywhere before you get a chance to move away. Its actually pretty funny because they just spam the bajesus out of it which doesn't really help either side win the fight, it just makes it take way longer.

[Superspeed_Hi5]

People use caster hires? O___o

Only when I need to turn on an Intel rune on my dumber than an Orc barbarian!