Is this Rogue a good idea?

[SSFWEl]

Thinking about TRing my pure dex based rogue. Into this, is this even worth thinking about? I was never very good at making builds...


Edit 1: DELETED BECAUSE THE ORIG IDEA, WAS, AFTER ALL, STUPID.


Edit 3: After TRing and leveling this up and playing it on endgame for about 2 months, I can say it's a lot of fun. Sometimes I don't use the DM's and sometimes I wish I had more (still trying for the dragonmarked ring - 8 ToDs and counting). Of course I use heal scrolls too, but the speed of the DM's and the fact that they can't be interrupted has saved me more than once. My DPS on bosses is not the most uber, but then again, I don't die a lot so my ACTUAL DPS is pretty darn good.
My assassinate has indeed suffered (I lost 3 DC - one from capstone and 2 from the 2 levels of ftr I took) - I have 38 base and only with my MG and my +7 illusion robe I can hit 41. Still, it works plenty.
Anyway, lots and lots or fun.


Edit 2:
After Lantanders idea, and discussing with him in game this is something I might consider. I know all the rage is to go str based, and taking 3 dragonmark feats might seem a waste, but I love this idea. Besides, I love my rapiers and short swords, and rogues from my guild also like their dex toons.

With basic gear: (GS, Minos, 6 con item, GFL) I should hit 455 HP before ship buffs at lvl 20. if I ever actually DO TR and then make it all the way back haha.

So more for my own reference:


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tr rogue
Level 20 True Neutral Halfling Male
(2 Fighter \ 18 Rogue)
Hit Points: 300
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 21
Will: 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 11 14
Dexterity 17 29
Constitution 17 20
Intelligence 14 17
Wisdom 9 12
Charisma 9 12

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 3 10
Bluff 3 33
Concentration 3 6
Diplomacy -1 2
Disable Device 6 27
Haggle -1 2
Heal -1 4
Hide 7 45
Intimidate -1 2
Jump 4 28
Listen -1 4
Move Silently 7 43
Open Lock 7 26
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 2 4
Search 6 27
Spot 3 25
Swim 0 4
Tumble 7 33
Use Magic Device 3 25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use IV
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I




edit:

[.Revenga.]

Make a dwarf barb/fighter if you want a short guy with a big stick?

This build is really flavor imo, THF does not mix with rogues, if you must, make an acrobat, then there is at least some bonuses coupled to gimping your dps by going THF.

Also, the THF feats get you aoe damage and don't grant SA, i'd avoid them.

[SSFWEl]

good point. Shows what I know about thf... Of course I want SA.
OK back to the drawing board.
Thx

[Lantander]

Here is my suggestion for a TWF rogue with a splash of monk:


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Dex-Based TWF Rogue=Monk
Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Monk \ 18 Rogue)
Hit Points: 246
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 25
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 12 14
Dexterity 18 30
Constitution 14 16
Intelligence 14 16
Wisdom 14 17
Charisma 8 10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 8 34
Bluff 3 31
Concentration 2 4
Diplomacy -1 1
Disable Device 6 27
Haggle 3 24
Heal 2 6
Hide 8 40
Intimidate -1 1
Jump 1 22
Listen 2 7
Move Silently 8 40
Open Lock 8 34
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 2 4
Search 6 29
Spot 6 23
Swim 1 3
Tumble n/a 12
Use Magic Device 3 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Rogue)


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Rogue)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark Use III
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
Enhancement: Way of the Faithful Hound I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking III
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking IV
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I