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Captain_Wizbang
12-29-2011, 11:45 AM
Race, Rakshasa
Class; none.
Class over-haul; Ranger.
Quests; House Cannith series expanded.
Weapons; Nanchaku (monks) with a disarming attribute.
Spells; Familiars
Memnir
12-29-2011, 11:48 AM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Thrudh
12-29-2011, 11:49 AM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
The important thing is that YOU'RE happy. And you don't seem very happy anymore.
kafrielveddicus
12-29-2011, 11:49 AM
Spell Component Bags --> only available in the DDO Store for 2000 DDO Points, LOL!!!
Hokiewa
12-29-2011, 12:10 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Sad turtle.
Hafeal
12-29-2011, 12:11 PM
The world doesn't end and the Mayan calender resets.
WielderofGigantus
12-29-2011, 12:16 PM
Race, Rakshasa
If you mean Rakshasa as a playable race, you're crazy. Rakshasa are evil outsiders, they're not going to become a playable race.
You'd be more likely to get Duergar as a playable race.
EDIT: The rest of your suggestions are quite reasonable.
DavionFuxa
12-29-2011, 12:19 PM
Race, None, Class, None.
Maybe a little bit of work on some of the classes in terms of prestige classes.
New Weapon and Armor types perhaps. New Spells.
Quests - Some more Low Range, Mid Range quests added, maybe a raid or two.
Wilderness Areas - Probably nothing important regarding Exploration.
Bug Fixes - Run of the mill but nothing too important.
Templarion
12-29-2011, 12:22 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
http://www.decalbin.com/catalog/images/sad_panda.png
But I want to post that "Thanks for playing!" image to you so don't leave without posting rage quit thread!
Combat_Wombat
12-29-2011, 12:41 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
I like ya memnir but if these are the kind of posts you are down to maybe it is time to move to greener pastures no reason to keep playing a game you aren't having fun with.
DaSawks
12-29-2011, 01:26 PM
The only thing I see in the future of DDO in 2012 is bugs. And more content.
rdasca
12-29-2011, 01:33 PM
A number of DoooooooooM threads in the forums.
katana_one
12-29-2011, 01:48 PM
I predict:
Much wailing and gnashing of teeth
more Doom! threads
more "another failed (fill in the quest) pug" threads
complaints about n00bs from vets
complaints about vets from n00bs
complaints about lack of dev communication
complaints about poor customer service
complaints about bugs
complaints about nerfs
complaints about someone else's class becoming over-powered
complaints that the content is too easy
complaints that the content is too hard
And I predict I will continue to play DDO and have fun while ignoring all of the above.
:D
Aelonwy
12-29-2011, 01:50 PM
I know this isn't exactly what you asked but this is what I hope to see next year...
1. Completed PrE's, as many as concievably possible.
(Because taking this long to finish them is not only disappointing but inept.)
2. Repair/Fix bugs, decrease the known issues list by at least a third.
(Instead of making the KIL longer each update. This should include fixing handwraps
because having the main weapon of a P2P class bugged for a year is highly unprofessional.)
3. A year of NO exploits.
(Cause having so many in one year was sad and demoralizing.)
4. New higher level Cannith Crafting recipes.
(Alot of basic things are still missing like higher striding and skills+15, which are in no way OP)
5. There was something else... if I can remember it i'll come back and add it later.
Yokido
12-29-2011, 01:59 PM
I predict the next update will re-model the, 'Restless Isles' and perhaps even add a couple of quests in that huge explorer area.
Deepwood archer needs to be looked at since the point blank feat was changed, and seeing as there's a small typo in the wording of the prestige now, it'll be appropriated to be useful.. Perhaps even a second tier added.
Either fens, von, or sands epics will be looked at or mentioned.
A handful of new effects will be doled out to keep things fresh, and maybe one or two game changers such as..
Changing slash/pierce/bludgeon DR items into percentile absorptions, to compensate for increased damage output by newer raid bosses. Either way, I sense that some older effects will be tweaked, without going into anymore detail.
Righteouss does need to be fixed, the +2 to-hit and damage are important.
CavernDragon
12-29-2011, 02:42 PM
All the Lag is gone and corrected on the 14.1 update : uploaded on 4/1/2012.
RabidKoala
12-29-2011, 02:50 PM
Bugs, lag, and people shouting nerf.
umeannothing
12-29-2011, 03:12 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
What I hate is the complete lack of seeing you in threads anymore.
There was a time, not so long ago, when you were there all the time to infuse a tense thread with your humor.
It is a sad thing to know that Turbine has taken so much out of your desire to even log in.
It is a sad thing that Turbine has dropped the ball so frequently that one of the brightest can be quoted like that.
Qhualor
12-29-2011, 05:29 PM
i predict a change in content and added content that will temporarily make the bored uber players happy and tell everybody else who complains that they are doing it wrong and you just need more skill.
i predict more bugs and exploits and anybody who complains about it will be called a canary.
i predict more nerfs to mellees and more spells for casters to ease their scroll farming troubles. casters will continue to tell us to just build a caster if we mellees dont like it.
Meat-Head
12-29-2011, 05:43 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
That sux.
Kon eye haz yor stuffs?
Quarterling
12-29-2011, 05:59 PM
Thief-Acrobat III. Or I rage-quit.
arconalos
12-29-2011, 06:27 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
I hope you stay Memnir, your posts are often a highlight to my day.
For 2012:
Race: Shifters <-a core eberron race. This would be a bug 'test' for druids
Class: Druids
Prestiges: At least Purple Dragon, All current ones will get boosted to level III and ones not open yet will get Level I or II
Quests: level 10-14 chain. With a 14 or 16 raid.
New weapon and armor skins.
New spells.
Urist
12-29-2011, 06:29 PM
I have it on no authority beyond my own powers of deduction, that handwraps will get fixed, once and for all.
ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Psiandron
12-29-2011, 06:39 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
If its not bringing you fun anymore than maybe its time to do something else, but maybe you should just think of it as a hiatus. I'd really hate to have to view these forums with no prospect of your posts to brighten things up.
:eek::(:mad::(:mad::(:mad::rolleyes::confused::eek ::D
Vordax
12-29-2011, 06:54 PM
Races: Kalashtar and Shifters
Classes: Psion and Druid
PRE's: some new added, some unfinished and some completed
Adventures: Truthful one raid and associated quests, some more mid level quests also (Cannith)
Ambitious? Yes!
Vordax
knightgf
12-29-2011, 06:59 PM
DDO's updates will have more bugs, more lag, and more things that make the game more unplayable to others.
# of updates: 3-4, not counting patches.
Will druids be released? Probably not. Empty promises will be made.
Will a big update take place, where a class/race or other thing is released? It's certainly a good possibility, but not a certainty.
More players will leave than join as a result of the poor quality, not quantity, of updates.
Will DDO close down? Assuming the 2012 event doesn't happen, it will probably take other year or two for it to fail at the rate it's going, or at least make significent progress.
The 2012 event has a 5% chance that will completely wipe out DDO:EU along with the rest of the world.
alvarego
12-29-2011, 08:24 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Can I get your pics collection? :D
kierg10
12-29-2011, 09:11 PM
The 2012 event has a 5% chance that will completely wipe out DDO:EU along with the rest of the world.
The mayans only said that a new world would begin, not that the world would end..........
Jendrak
12-29-2011, 11:06 PM
My prediction for 2012.....MOR DOOOOOMMMM! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ) :D
lvl cap increase to 25
new quest areas for lvl 21-25
new raids for lvl 21- 25
epics will now be lvl 30
2 new classes in the year
and a partridge in a pear tree ;)
sirgog
12-29-2011, 11:13 PM
The 2012 event has a 5% chance that will completely wipe out DDO:EU along with the rest of the world.
Not so fussed if it wipes out the rest of the world, just not DDO!
Kushiel
12-29-2011, 11:48 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Atari will fully buy out Hazbro, Turbine, Warner Brothers, and Wizards of The Coast and make every feature update decision based on a business management committee agreement (people who never wiggle a mouse nor tap at a keyboard to move an avatar around slaying foes, taking their stuff, and feeling like they are doing "good" in the world) - whether the player base supports or wants it, whether development can do it, whether the technology can accomplish it.
We'll see things that cannot be unseen... and wish we could see things we at least are familiar with, even if we don't always understand and/or sometimes scare some of the herd.
Mem' mem? Mem? Memnir to become a Mem'ory? :(
Nummesis
12-29-2011, 11:57 PM
Race: Kalashtar
Class: Druids
3 more PrEs
A totally redone 3 barrel cove remodeled as the home island of the druids who are fighting to take their rightful lands back from the pirate scum who have invaded them. :) Totally wishful thinking I know but omg that would be so sweet. One of my fav wilderness areas and quest lines and is overlooked by way to many players simply because it does not give uber loot or XP... Guess what guys, its still a fun area to play in at lvl. Who says everything has to be an xp or loot fest!!!!!!!
Sir_Noob
12-30-2011, 12:13 AM
Biggest Update to date in the game releasing Dec 22/2012
Druids as a class.
Pets for Rangers & Druids.
Introduction of quests that randomize a pool of traps/maps/bosses with a schedule to update several quests in the same manner in all the following updates until all content has received the treatment.
Tangleroot gets 2 new passages added from the start of the quest to take the monotony out of a good quest line.
A level 15 to 16 quest chain involving House Cannith and a Warforged Splinter sect bent on world domination involving the removal of all fleshy inhabitants from Stormreach.
More lampshade style helms in the game.
Toons at creation now also add/lose weight/height based upon a combination of starting stats and +/- 15% based upon player preference.
Half Elves get real faces.
Rangers and Paladins get some love.
Tieflings & Kobolds are now playable races.
Kobold Sorcerers rock the planet with their Shaman prestige.
The name Yark will be available to any player via the DDO store for 1500 turbine points.
Dwarven Clerics gain use of all axes.
Tim Hortons and Krispy Kreme open locations in the Marketplace.
/lfb "Looking for Broccolli" is now changed to /lfv "looking for vegetable"
/lfb changed to "Looking for Bacon" in an attempt to have more appeal to the masses who have yet to try DDO.
A Promise from the team stating Gnomes will be added in 2013.
Elves get much more love involving weapon lines.
umeannothing
12-30-2011, 04:22 AM
Biggest Update to date in the game releasing Dec 22/2012
Druids as a class.
Pets for Rangers & Druids.
Introduction of quests that randomize a pool of traps/maps/bosses with a schedule to update several quests in the same manner in all the following updates until all content has received the treatment.
Tangleroot gets 2 new passages added from the start of the quest to take the monotony out of a good quest line.
A level 15 to 16 quest chain involving House Cannith and a Warforged Splinter sect bent on world domination involving the removal of all fleshy inhabitants from Stormreach.
More lampshade style helms in the game.
Toons at creation now also add/lose weight/height based upon a combination of starting stats and +/- 15% based upon player preference.
Half Elves get real faces.
Rangers and Paladins get some love.
Tieflings & Kobolds are now playable races.
Kobold Sorcerers rock the planet with their Shaman prestige.
The name Yark will be available to any player via the DDO store for 1500 turbine points.
Dwarven Clerics gain use of all axes.
Tim Hortons and Krispy Kreme open locations in the Marketplace.
/lfb "Looking for Broccolli" is now changed to /lfv "looking for vegetable"
/lfb changed to "Looking for Bacon" in an attempt to have more appeal to the masses who have yet to try DDO.
A Promise from the team stating Gnomes will be added in 2013.
Elves get much more love involving weapon lines.
You know what is completely amazing??? (maybe not so surprising though) World of Warcraft has had fully functioning shape shifting Druids for several years.
It is a total shame that DDO/Turbine has not been able to pull [this off] and make one of their own.
Just makes a person wonder how [DDO is coded], [why the developers are incapable of doing it], or how this company sets it's priorities. In any case, I have a level 70 druid on WoW as far as I know, she could shape shift into a bear, a cat, a wolf, or a bird in 2008 when I quit playing the game.
I often find myself in the last 6 months of junk content releases on DDO. I often catch myself actually wanting to pay Blizzard 30 bucks so I can log into both of my accounts ad check them out.
It tends to hurt, since I would really rather find a reason to give Turbine 30 bucks a month, but all the lied about promises, the junk content, the rushed releases, the complete lack of regard for what the PLAYERS WANT is getting me to the point I think Memnir has already hit,. One hopes for so long that promises (prestige classes finished/druids/ ALL content promised to players) that after several years of those promises being placed into the 'screw the players wishes' file that one loses the desire to prove they love the game. I prove how much I love the game by not only griping, but by giving Turbine money. I have not given Turbine a red cent since May or June of 2011.
It is a very sad day when even Memnir has lost faith in Turbine to keep their promises. A sad day indeed.
mudfud
12-30-2011, 04:38 AM
Aliens are going to come to Earth to re-claim there lost children. (beetles)
Ashlayna
12-30-2011, 07:56 AM
Aliens are going to come to Earth to re-claim there lost children. (beetles)
My brother will be happy, he hates June Bugs.
Predictions:
I'll actually make lvl 20 on a few of my toons.
More gloom and doom threads, and seriously, having played several P2P and F2P MMO's they are a staple of the forums. Heck, I saw a couple during one MMO's beta stage.
macubrae
12-30-2011, 09:32 AM
All the bugs will be fixed, all PREs will be finished, Druids will be introduced along with shifters, and the LAG monster will be stopped.
Unfortunately, a sudden illness will kill the hamsters powering the servers and they will loose all the update data and have to start over from U12.
Produktion_Malphunktion
12-30-2011, 09:52 AM
You know what is completely amazing??? (maybe not so surprising though) World of Warcraft has had fully functioning shape shifting Druids for several years.
It is a total shame that DDO/Turbine has not been able to pull [this off] and make one of their own.
Just makes a person wonder how [DDO is coded], [why the developers are incapable of doing it], or how this company sets it's priorities. In any case, I have a level 70 druid on WoW as far as I know, she could shape shift into a bear, a cat, a wolf, or a bird in 2008 when I quit playing the game.
I often find myself in the last 6 months of junk content releases on DDO. I often catch myself actually wanting to pay Blizzard 30 bucks so I can log into both of my accounts ad check them out.
It tends to hurt, since I would really rather find a reason to give Turbine 30 bucks a month, but all the lied about promises, the junk content, the rushed releases, the complete lack of regard for what the PLAYERS WANT is getting me to the point I think Memnir has already hit,. One hopes for so long that promises (prestige classes finished/druids/ ALL content promised to players) that after several years of those promises being placed into the 'screw the players wishes' file that one loses the desire to prove they love the game. I prove how much I love the game by not only griping, but by giving Turbine money. I have not given Turbine a red cent since May or June of 2011.
It is a very sad day when even Memnir has lost faith in Turbine to keep their promises. A sad day indeed.
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
sebastianosmith
12-30-2011, 09:55 AM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-dog-pictures-pug-begs-dont-go.jpg
U NO GO! :(
LookingForABentoBox
12-30-2011, 09:56 AM
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Hey Maj what are your predictions for 2012?
Chauncey1
12-30-2011, 09:58 AM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
:(
But the people who like seeing your name in threads wouldn't be.
Kriogen
12-30-2011, 10:06 AM
DDO devs can do good content. Quests and stuff. Can't deny this. New quests since '09 are in general good.
They (devs) are not so good with other things. Bugs, inherently grindie, zergie and with ever present 'Store'.
So:
- new quests will be fine
- there will be even more bugs and old ones not fixed
- new weapon that looks almost like shines-in-the-dark simple stick
- new class (or maybe PrE) that is best described as "sword warrior with some mystical powers that can jump good and doesn't like guns'
grodon9999
12-30-2011, 10:06 AM
I predict Madfloyd's feedback threads won't actually lead to any real improvements to the game.
I would love to be wrong about this.
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
EQ had shape shifting druids in 1999. Shape shifting really didnt give EQ classes much of an advantage however, it was mostly just a different skin for the character with minor benefits.
The major issue I see with it is DDO didnt have shape shifting designed into the game apon release. Trying to incorporate something into a game that has already been released, in play for 6 years, and modified ALOT since release is much harder than designing that ability into the game from the start.
Ive seen other examples of more advanced games not having features that games released 7 years previous to them had, and it usually comes down to the newer game not releasing with those features. Trying to design it into this game now is a long term prospect that isnt just going to happen over the course of an update or two.
Stormanne
12-30-2011, 10:15 AM
Not making any predictions. Just making a wish. A wish that Turbine would do something to bring back the spark to this game. They've messed with the game so much in the last year and a half that it's to the point where I only log in to chat with guild mates. And even then, only once or twice a week.
While this game was never a true D&D online experience; it was, at one time, much closer that what it is now. It used to be that you didn't need a deep understanding of D&D or quests to play. While a deep understanding of D&D is still not necessary, knowing a quest before hand or having ground out the rarest of equipment seems to be what the content is being built around.
Dungeons and Dragons was never about meta-gaming and min-maxing, and DDO should not be balanced around those that do. Instead of making the game more challenging for those that have worked out spreadsheets and algorithms to eek out every last drop of power out of a build, it should be made accessible to the majority of the player base. I find it funny that a company who wants their game to grow, implements mechanics that alienate a substantial amount of the player base.
I would love to see some of mechanics brought back, or gotten rid of.
Two weapon fighting- You all changed it to reduce lag...and it didn't. Change it back so that it works that way it is supposed to.
Dungeon alert- Again, brought about to supposedly reduce lag. Instead, even though we've grown "used to it", it's an artificial pacing mechanic that is as buggy as Virginia in June.
Immunities- Unless there is a specific reason a mob is immune to something, it should be considered a spell effect and therefore be dispellable, boss mobs excluded. Arbitrarily giving immunities is a lazy way to go about increasing the difficulty of an encounter.
Twitch fighting- This is one that I never understood. Granted, it mainly affected Two Handed Fighting, but why change an entire mechanic for one extra attack that hold little to no baring on an encounter. Woohoo, that one extra attack it gone, so now the mob will die in 8 seconds instead of 7.5.
k1ngp1n
12-30-2011, 10:18 AM
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Quite positive they could if they wanted to. The question is - will that feature bring in enough players to warrant the additional expense and maintaining the extra bandwidth it would likely bring into play.
DDO has it because its the prime differentiation you guys use to survive. Without it, DDO would be long gone.
grodon9999
12-30-2011, 10:23 AM
Quite positive they could if they wanted to. The question is - will that feature bring in enough players to warrant the additional expense and maintaining the extra bandwidth it would likely bring into play.
DDO has it because its the prime differentiation you guys use to survive. Without it, DDO would be long gone.
Yes . . . and many of us are here because WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY WOW OR OTHER MMOs.
D&D is good . . . MMO is bad.
Please try to keep the game closer to the former.
JOTMON
12-30-2011, 10:30 AM
Updates to compendium( I hope..for those new players coming to the game that don't know about DDOWIKI) to correspond to in-game changes...
such as..
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/What's_In_Your_Warforged:_a_Primer
■Earth Elementals: Try to make sure that you're the first face *every* Earth Elemental sees. Just a few Earth Elementals can wreak havoc on the fleshies with Earthgrab. However, for you, Earthgrab is a weakness -- it leaves them nice and exposed for a good 5 seconds of free, unhindered beatdown! Rush to meet these folks whenever you see them, and tell the fleshies to hold back.
I am sure there are more missed items in there...
FuzzyDuck81
12-30-2011, 10:30 AM
Overhauls of a couple more older quest chains... Threnal would be the obvious one that needs love, as I find its actually a fun line with a decent storyline - unfortunately the NPC issues (and that annoying flagging bug) are such a huge negative for it they almost completely obscure the good points.
danotmano1998
12-30-2011, 10:33 AM
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Agreed.
Wow is not DDO. DDO is not WOW.
Thank heaven for that or I wouldn't be playing either. I'd be still stuck in NWN mode, hoping against hope there was another game out there I could enjoy for more than 5 years straight.
Don't diss DDO based on WOW. The "mainstream" can have their silly cartoony graphics and mediocre game play.
Ok, since I've never done this before, How do I go about turning this in for inappropriate negative rep?
Thanks. :)
k1ngp1n
12-30-2011, 10:34 AM
Yes . . . and many of us are here because WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY WOW OR OTHER MMOs.
Yup: I play this game for the active combat.
People play WoW because they like that gameplay.
My post was to point out that it isn't that WoW can't pull off RT fighting, its more that they don't want to / it wouldn't be profitable for them.
Captain_Wizbang
12-30-2011, 10:39 AM
Hey Maj what are your predictions for 2012?
I know what his answer will be.
The Patriots win another Super Bowl.
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Darkrok
12-30-2011, 10:43 AM
People will look back on the content released in 2011, especially the challenges, and realize that Turbine's actually added quite a bit of fun content to the game. This will shock many forumites who were under the impression that Turbine suxxored all year long. ;)
People that have or play with people using massive amounts of gear, past lives, and skill will continue to complain about class balance. Turbine will listen to the complaints and buff arcanes and artificers.
Turbine will continue to have QA issues that have little to do with their QA and lots to do with management, release schedules, and priorities. Buggy code will continue to get pushed out the door despite QA protesting that things need fixed.
We will get Druids in time for Christmas but the shifting will either have a massive bug or a massive exploit. If it's a bug people will kvetch for months but nothing substantive will come of it. If it's an exploit then Turbine will have no choice but to disable shifting on their new pay-only class which will cause apoplectic seizures from a sizable portion of the forumites. These collective seizures will be the catalyst that brings on the Mayan apocalypse of 2012 in which zombies come out of all of the Mayan tombs to spread their zombie contagion over the entire world.
karl_k0ch
12-30-2011, 10:51 AM
I predict Madfloyd's feedback threads won't actually lead to any real improvements to the game.
I would love to be wrong about this.
I hope this prediction will be false and we will see all the PrEs being finished through 2012. (cue "Dwarven Defender!" shouts in 3...2...1)
umeannothing
12-30-2011, 11:28 AM
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Thing of it is Maj, it has been how many YEARS that this has been on the 'promised' list, and has yet to get figured out?
I feel the comparison is quite valid, And as far as real time combat goes, Turbine may have figured it out, but they still haven't figured out how to make a stunned/held/tripped mob stand still either.
This isn't like I have said anything new about wanting to give Turbine my money, I do. Unfortunately, Turbine won't keep it's promises, Turbine won't finish the parts of the game that are currently there, hell, Turbine seems to look for excuses to to NOT finish things like PrE's, base core aspects of the game.
I haven't called for any head removal in my post, I stated a simple fact, that fact is that when you have lost the faith of a player that has been here for YEARS trying to be positive about the game, a player that has always given very solid input and feedback, well worded posts, and that person is predicting they won't be here in 2012, it is a very, very sad day.
This quote, it about broke my heart to read it man:
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
And I will stand by what I said, WoW, has all their classes finished, and they figured out Druids. I don't care how many people they have working on it, that is a moot point, Turbine has had YEARS to catch up and get it done, and they haven't.
Like I said Maj, at what point is Turbine going to do the things the players have been asking for? Since it has been said that 2012 updates are pretty much in the bag, what year can the players predict to see some of the core things they beg for repeatedly?
Meat-Head
12-30-2011, 11:41 AM
1. Lots of PrEs
2. Gnomes or Shifters
3. Rework of 1 or 2 lower packs
4. Greensteel Decon.
5. Not sure about rest. But I feel confidentISH on the above.
Phemt81
12-30-2011, 11:49 AM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Now i am curious to know why.
maddmatt70
12-30-2011, 11:49 AM
I just hope that update 13 is a nice one. I figure it will start appearing on lammania next week or the week after. I liked update 11 but update 8, 9, 10, 12 were all pretty shoddy for me. It would be nice to get a good update to start the new year off. I have 0 idea what will be coming out I just hope that it will not just be 4-5 quests with a few bug fixes.
Missing_Minds
12-30-2011, 11:56 AM
I do not expect druids as this requires pretty hefty changes to the engine.
I do not expect pvp leaderboards (though those were promised back in Mod 3.)
I do not expect ranged combat to get a meaningful fix.
I do not expect AC to actually become meaningful such that it becomes worth the ever f'n unfun grind to get it high enough.
I do not expect to see usable player housing.
I do not expect changes in epics, or any actual epic character levels.
I do not expect to see an actual Holy Avenger to be released.
I do not expect them to finish PrEs even if they should have been finished a year ago.
I do not expect them to fix the MOTHER FN bug where you can't freaking ATTACK when the mouse is over ANYTHING other than landscape. Why the HECK (actually insert another string of expletives) you have blocked keyboard input by mouse position is beyond me.
I don't expect any good/fun time wasters added to the game to add to role play or personal character attachment fun.
crude... you were asking what we were expecting, weren't you? Well.... kinda sorta I'm not expecting much in the long run given their current methods. 2011 didn't see much talk with the players, MLers aren't allowed to speak up over what is/isn't, and Turbine has the very bad habit of not changing their ways visibly to the public for the better.
Arnhelm
12-30-2011, 12:10 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Loved the pic you used as an example of why you might go. Wishing you the best wherever you end up.
dunklezhan
12-30-2011, 12:12 PM
Updates to compendium( I hope..for those new players coming to the game that don't know about DDOWIKI) to correspond to in-game changes...
such as..
http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/What's_In_Your_Warforged:_a_Primer (http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/What%27s_In_Your_Warforged:_a_Primer)
■Earth Elementals: Try to make sure that you're the first face *every* Earth Elemental sees. Just a few Earth Elementals can wreak havoc on the fleshies with Earthgrab. However, for you, Earthgrab is a weakness -- it leaves them nice and exposed for a good 5 seconds of free, unhindered beatdown! Rush to meet these folks whenever you see them, and tell the fleshies to hold back.
I am sure there are more missed items in there...
You see that edit button next to each text segment of that page? Have you tried pushing it?
Edit: oh wait, you don't need to, I just did.
It's just like a wiki, its community-driven.
Of course, the unofficial wiki is way better if for no other reason than because the search facility works and people bother to cross reference, and I find it mildly offensive that Turbine don't care enough to maintain their own resources given how little information is actually available in game but still - complaining that user-editable content is not correct, when you know what the inaccuracy is, is a bit silly.
Oh, and Memnir: you'll be missed. But you aren't happy. So go be happy, guy - it's just a game.
Expalphalog
12-30-2011, 12:20 PM
D&D is good . . . MMO is bad.
Please try to keep the game closer to the former.
Could not have said it better myself.
My only prediction: Gnomes. No they aren't the Shifters that everyone wants, but they are a heck of a lot easier to code so I suspect we'll be seeing them soon.
Arnhelm
12-30-2011, 12:24 PM
I predict we will see more items sold in the Turbine Store, giving more of a "pay-to-win" feel to the game than already exists.
I predict we will see major content released with major bugs and at least one major exploit.
I predict bug fixes will be as agonizingly slow and disappointing as currently occur.
I predict some folks will continue to enjoy playing DDO, but more-and-more will leave for newer games and not return.
I predict an increase in "balance" to allow more-and-more soloing and less of the group participation and coordination that makes PnP DnD such an enjoyable social experience.
I predict I'll continue to withhold my money from Turbine, play sparingly, and increase my search for something I enjoy as much as I used to enjoy DDO.
Best Wishes for the New Year to one and all! :)
Dwarven Defender PRE - all three tiers.
Galeria
12-30-2011, 01:23 PM
I am going to tentatively say that I expect good things in 2012.
If MadFloyd hadn't started a couple of threads, I would probably be really negative that anyone at Turbine was paying any attention to the playerbase, other than a really brave and honest QA guy.
But I have a very unreasonable optimism over the few things MadFloyd has asked- it gives me hope that they might actually be taking our frustration and honestly helpful requests into account.
I don't expect much from U13 other than the "make new content, no one will mind the old bugs" arrogance we've seen recently because it was probably nearly done before U12 even released. The development window for a game like this is long and I think it will be 3-6 months before anything we've asked for makes it into a release.
But overall for 2012?
I think we are at least going to get better communication. (I did not say great communication- I said better. Almost anything is better at this point. I don't expect Fernando to actually say anything to us or even for us, but I think we'll see more MadFloyd.)
I think they might find a way to make challenges more fun. At least I hope so. I love the Crystal Cove. I respect the huge attention to detail in the new challenges and the amount of work put into them but they are sooooo not fun. I want to like them. I want to run a few solo challenges when there's nothing else going on. But I find them frustrating and really, more than any other content in the game, they make me want to throw things at my monitor.
I think they will fix some of the bugs that really have been around too long. If not, then I'm wrong about everything I give them credit for.
I think the erosion of the playerbase to new games will have an impact. I believe it already has, and will continue. I would hope Turbine would do something on the marketing side of the house to attract new players, because we need them. But I can't call this a prediction because there is absolutely no indication that Turbine has anyone focusing on marketing or public relations.
Hafeal
12-30-2011, 01:33 PM
I predict Madfloyd's feedback threads won't actually lead to any real improvements to the game.
I would love to be wrong about this.
You mean, the fact that we have yet to, you know, actually have any response in said threads from MadFloyd, let only give and take with him - or ANY other dev for that matter - would give players the suspicion that the head devs don't really care what the players are thinking or what they might like to see as improvements to the game!?!
Huh.
AZgreentea
12-30-2011, 01:58 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
My prediction in 2012 is that Memnir gets hired by Turbine and has to go by a new name.
Also, U13 will be released, and Memnir will give me all his stuff before he has to shelve his characters in his new role at Turbine.
Lifespawn
12-30-2011, 02:06 PM
Why do we have to have an entire shape shifting for druids?
I'd be happy with a bear or wolf head or maybe claws or something and have them like the pm forms.
Danezekiel
12-30-2011, 02:25 PM
I predict that a dev that plays the game will get sick of having to log on as one character, then log in as another about ten times to do some simple inventory swapping.
2012 VIP's and purchasers of shared bank inventory space will either be able to access their characters individual inventories and shared bank space from the character select scrren rather than in game. Choosing a character but not logging in you will be able to open their inventory and the shared bank account.
2012 the Devs may release a cosmetics tool. You can run this tool on your computer, download your airship or characters current armor and other cosmetics and prototype to your hearts content without altering the game.
Once finished, then you pay the DDO store to upload your customisation to your character/guild airship.
2012 may also see the guild name appear when you mouse over the guild airship floating above the city :)
2012 might also see an unbinding ritual developed so that you can sell, trade give away or simply hand down the cool stuff to you other chars. Perhaps only with veteran chars or level 20 or only available as an timered unbinding item through the DDO store
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Darkrok
12-30-2011, 02:53 PM
2012 VIP's and purchasers of shared bank inventory space will either be able to access their characters individual inventories and shared bank space from the character select scrren rather than in game. Choosing a character but not logging in you will be able to open their inventory and the shared bank account.
/faint
Seriously. I would faint. Flat. Out. Amazing.
Missing_Minds
12-30-2011, 03:02 PM
Why do we have to have an entire shape shifting for druids?
I'd be happy with a bear or wolf head or maybe claws or something and have them like the pm forms.
We suggested such like that a year ago. Nothing has come of it.
I know I personally suggested buff forms rather than shape shift, and give spirit overlays much like Tensers, mage armor, etc.
Stormanne
12-30-2011, 03:05 PM
Why do we have to have an entire shape shifting for druids?
I'd be happy with a bear or wolf head or maybe claws or something and have them like the pm forms.
I'll take it one farther- Instead of a full on shape shifting, why not just make a "astral shroud" of the animal avatar using the same technique for Tenser's Transformation or Bladesworn Transformation?
umeannothing
12-30-2011, 03:16 PM
We suggested such like that a year ago. Nothing has come of it.
I know I personally suggested buff forms rather than shape shift, and give spirit overlays much like Tensers, mage armor, etc.
Mind if I ask, when did you guys request Artificers? Not that I mind them, they add quite a bit to the game flavor, I am just curious when the player base asked for the addition of them is all.
I ask because Druids have been asked to be added for several years now, and reading your post, even a compromise of their shifting has been offered up.
And it still can't seem to get done.
Double_O
12-30-2011, 03:35 PM
A Tell Button will be added to the Guild Tab in the Social Panel.
The addition of an address book for in game mail (only for Friends and Guldies).
The Do Something Stupid Button will be properly displayed on a Hirelings tool bar.
1st level loot will no longer drop in 15 level or higher quest when ran on elite.
But really, I would like to see the Tell button and the Address book…
FrancisP.Fancypants
12-30-2011, 03:40 PM
I predict I'll join at least a hundred PUGs in which the healer dies repeatedly in traps. And I don't mean a hireling healer.
Ganak
12-30-2011, 04:12 PM
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
KaPow!!!!!
Memnir
12-30-2011, 04:17 PM
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Did they try?
Did they even want to?
Because if not, if they programed exactly the kind of thing they wanted to, then this really means nothing.
Blizzard could have a rejoinder of something along the lines of, "But oddly, Turbine with their real time combat couldn't pull off the mass-appeal to draw in more money then most small countries... hrm."
...just sayin'.
Produktion_Malphunktion
12-30-2011, 04:18 PM
I know what his answer will be.
The Patriots win another Super Bowl.
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And the Bruins win a second Cup.
My predictions for 2012?
IT'S A TRAP! I won't predict because I know the future.
My hopes?
Well, I keep hoping to get my martial arts physique back. Haha.
I hope my kid wins another baseball championship. Last time was so much fun. I love coaching.
I hope my other kid enjoys his new piano as much as I do listening to him play it.
I hope to squash the lag beast. Halfway there.
I hope for more improvements in QA/Dev and communicating with the community.
I hope for a better Lammania. I hope to rename it too, because I can never remember if it is 2 N's or 2 M's...
I hope we can do a facelift.
I hope handwraps all get lit on fire and burned from the game and replaced with good MA weapons like Chucks and Sais. No true MA would use wraps. Toughen your hands kids.
I hope to see people in cosplay for DDO at PAX East.
I hope to start the 'no druids/AC change/NEW Spell Pass!' thread just to watch the rage.
I hope to never have a December like I just had. That sucked.
Well, I'm going back to vacating, see you in 2012!
Response to the MadFloyd threads...he too is on vacation we are serious about listening.
Aashrym
12-30-2011, 04:29 PM
....we are serious about listening.
Sweet, cuz many I see a lot of forumites serious about talking. :D
Captain_Wizbang
12-30-2011, 04:29 PM
And the Bruins win a second Cup.
My predictions for 2012?
IT'S A TRAP! I won't predict because I know the future.
My hopes?
Well, I keep hoping to get my martial arts physique back. Haha.
I hope my kid wins another baseball championship. Last time was so much fun. I love coaching.
I hope my other kid enjoys his new piano as much as I do listening to him play it.
I hope to squash the lag beast. Halfway there.
I hope for more improvements in QA/Dev and communicating with the community.
I hope for a better Lammania. I hope to rename it too, because I can never remember if it is 2 N's or 2 M's...
I hope we can do a facelift.
I hope handwraps all get lit on fire and burned from the game and replaced with good MA weapons like Chucks and Sais. No true MA would use wraps. Toughen your hands kids.
I hope to see people in cosplay for DDO at PAX East.
I hope to start the 'no druids/AC change/NEW Spell Pass!' thread just to watch the rage.
I hope to never have a December like I just had. That sucked.
Well, I'm going back to vacating, see you in 2012!
Response to the MadFloyd threads...he too is on vacation we are serious about listening.
Pure awesomeness, what a way to close out 2011!
Havok.cry
12-30-2011, 04:31 PM
I hope to start the 'no druids/AC change/NEW Spell Pass!' thread just to watch the rage.
This is so full of win :)
Arnhelm
12-30-2011, 05:09 PM
I hope to never have a December like I just had. That sucked.
I hope that one comes true for you. Happy New Year!
waterboytkd
12-30-2011, 05:30 PM
I hope handwraps all get lit on fire and burned from the game and replaced with good MA weapons like Chucks and Sais. No true MA would use wraps. Toughen your hands kids.
GAH! First, 'good' MA weapons would be swords--nunchaku and sai were just farming implements peasants practiced fighting with because they weren't allowed to own real weapons :P
So if handwraps actually got nuked, monks would need more weapon proficiencies to compensate, including things like longswords, shortswords, daggers, bows, etc, including a variety of damage types (bludgeoning, slashing, piercing) on a variety of weapon sizes (two-handed, one-handed, light). Give em bastard sword prof on their bonus feat list (that's supposed to be the katana, right?). NUKE Whirling Steel Strike, and just make any weapon with which a monk has obtained proficiency count as a ki weapon (sure, you'd get monks with khopeshes, but oh well). Change Stunning Fist, Quivering Palm, and Touch of Death so that they can be used with any ki weapon, not just unarmed. Unarmed fighting would be relegated to a sort of back up fighting style that would get very few boosts from gear (ToD rings, brawler's gloves, ummm....)
BUT, due to the greatly different gear requirements unarmed has put on monks, if this EVER happened, it would ABSOLUTELY have to be accompanied with the ability to clear ToD rings. Also, there would have to be some kind of trade-in barter dude that would allow you to trade in your no-longer-equip-able handwraps for a weapon of your choice with identical characteristics (especially important for Alchemical Wraps, only a little less so far Cannith Crafted ones, a bit trickier with Epic Calomel Wraps and Epic Wraps of Endless Light since they DO have contemporaries, but of a limited weapon list).
Of course, I have a feeling that your hope was not realistic, and more tongue in cheek...
azmodeus1
12-30-2011, 05:31 PM
druids,
prestiges for ones that were promised,
tod sets for all existing pres,
some content packs not challenges and not overpriced,
+3 tomes sold regularily, +4 in 3rd quarter for the money grab.
gloopygloop
12-30-2011, 05:36 PM
People who hate seeing my name in threads may be very happy in 2012.
Can I have your gifs?
Missing_Minds
12-30-2011, 06:48 PM
Response to the MadFloyd threads...he too is on vacation we are serious about listening.
I honestly believe that most Turbine employees do listen. However, there is no responses, feedback, or even hints/signs in game that we are being listened to save when there is direct $ at stake.
Now if this is a cost of time, declarations of managers, feedback to the proper channels that aren't acting upon said information, I do not know.
And yes, I do agree, sometimes we players don't know what is best, but you know... (and yes, I do mean you, Maj) you do know how far feedback/responding can go with players.
BTW, grats on your kids win. Good luck this year! and I hope your kid enjoys the music as well. Got the wife a keyboard she wanted so maybe I'll be listening to music soon myself. (after she gets done relearning.... ouch.)
Dawnsfire
12-30-2011, 07:15 PM
All the Lag is gone and corrected on the 14.1 update : uploaded on 4/1/2012.
I expect this on December 21, 2012.
Aashrym
12-30-2011, 07:23 PM
I expect this on December 21, 2012.
And players will still be grinding that last piece of gear on the 20th. :D
GeneralDiomedes
12-30-2011, 07:50 PM
I hope to squash the lag beast. Halfway there.
I hope we can do a facelift.
I think these two things are important, glad to hear them them being said. DDO is already lots of fun and, being a mature MMO, a comparatively large library of content, equipment choices and character options.
Hafeal
12-30-2011, 07:56 PM
Maj, again, major props for your communication. You have become the cult hero of these forums, no doubt.
That being said ...
Response to the MadFloyd threads...he too is on vacation we are serious about listening.
Here is what is frustrating. No one denies Mad's vaca time. God bless him, he no doubt he deserves it AND needs it. But was it lack of foresight or a knee-jack reaction to quiet the forums that he started those threads? Did he not think they would generate a ton of interest and response? That it looks bad to start a thread and let it sit for his entire vaca time without acknowledgement? Either from him or anyone else onthe dev team?
The thread is not meant for the fanbois, they are going nowhere. The thread was for those in various stages of discontent. Again, it troubles me that those threads were started and players are excited to participate in it, whether fanbois or not, and no one, and I mean no one from Turbine can even step in and say, hey look, we appreciate the responses and we'll particfipate in these threads in the New Year. That is the respect of 'acknowledgment.' No response indicates that these threads will go down in the deep well of being ignored that the suggestion threads seem to all too often disappear into.
Why did it take my post to get your response? It shouldn't be that way. Perhaps DDO can dial up the WB PR department for some training. :(
Produktion_Malphunktion
12-30-2011, 08:15 PM
I told him not to post until we get back....but he got all excited and well...look at it this way, he has all the time in the world to read everything now.
Edit: Let me just say he cares a ton, and in all my years is one of the most intelligent, and compassionate (when he isn't pulling pranks anyway) developers I've worked with.
DocBenway
12-30-2011, 08:24 PM
...
I hope for more improvements in QA/Dev and communicating with the community.
I hope for a better Lammania. I hope to rename it too, because I can never remember if it is 2 N's or 2 M's...
These two if anything. They are inherently tied together.
I've made a thread in the last couple of days about how nonsensical it was for ML:8 Challenge items to require ingredients from ML:10 and ML:12 challenges.
Guess what I found since? Two thread in Lammania forums, one of them specifically asking for challenge feedback, reporting the same nonsensical issue.
Feedback requested then ignored is as good as silence.
Missing_Minds
12-30-2011, 08:57 PM
I told him not to post until we get back....but he got all excited and well...look at it this way, he has all the time in the world to read everything now.
Edit: Let me just say he cares a ton, and in all my years is one of the most intelligent, and compassionate (when he isn't pulling pranks anyway) developers I've worked with.
*blink* ok... that sounds both extremely ominous and bad.
Why? I always have flashbacks to the Twilight Zone.
umeannothing
12-30-2011, 09:19 PM
I told him not to post until we get back....but he got all excited and well...look at it this way, he has all the time in the world to read everything now.
Edit: Let me just say he cares a ton, and in all my years is one of the most intelligent, and compassionate (when he isn't pulling pranks anyway) developers I've worked with.
Well Maj, you managed to calm us all down in previous threads where the pitchforks were out, and the torches ready to be thrown, I respect you for that.
I respect MadF for his intent, but posting the threads, and then leaving them to sit?
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4230510&postcount=160 is the one post I can find MadF made in the threads outside of the OP on them, and MadFloyd, I hate to toss you under the buss here, but I know you were reading(and posting on) the forums on Christmas day, at the very least.
Now, I was tossed under the bus today myself, and all that did was get me to download WoW and go for the 10 day free trial on Cataclysm. I was surprised, when I left in 2008 to come and play DDO, the general chat was nothing but trolls. I played for 3 hours today, and I never saw a single word in my chatbox that was generated by another player, I can live with that myself. It sure ain't DDO, but it is a clean and polished game.
I am purely saddened in my heart, because I know myself well enough to know that just the act of downloading and installing a different game, is the beginning of the end of my time with DDO. I love this game, but the incomplete content (with nary an act of even giving 1 PrE tier for just 1 single class per update), and the festering problem with breeding bugs, rather than eliminating them has all but broken this Camel's back.
I have been married for 18 years, and the last time I felt this crummy was when I broke up with a girlfriend in High School. I honestly see tons of words being tossed out about how much you all want to communicate with us, but it takes a forum full of raging gamers to get a comment passed down to us, like someone else said, it just seems it is being done to calm/placate the masses. I see no effective actions/ comments from 'Fernando' as we SHOULD.
It has been fun, but I honestly feel that the current attempts to placate us with fake threads to make us think our opinion means anything is exactly that, an attempt to placate us with fake threads.
I will still be around, but I have lost my hope. My prediction for 2012 is nothing will change. I would like to be wrong, but my prediction is the players will still be ignored, bugs will be ignored, the Known Issues list will only be paid attention to in so much as it will have additions made to it, not deletions.
I will try not to let the door hit me in the backside on my way out, there are a ton of you forumites I will miss more than the game itself anymore, since the forums are all that has kept me plugging along for the last 6 months or better. :(
Vordax
12-30-2011, 09:37 PM
Well Maj, you managed to calm us all down in previous threads where the pitchforks were out, and the torches ready to be thrown, I respect you for that.
I respect MadF for his intent, but posting the threads, and then leaving them to sit?
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4230510&postcount=160 is the one post I can find MadF made in the threads outside of the OP on them, and MadFloyd, I hate to toss you under the buss here, but I know you were reading(and posting on) the forums on Christmas day, at the very least.
Now, I was tossed under the bus today myself, and all that did was get me to download WoW and go for the 10 day free trial on Cataclysm. I was surprised, when I left in 2008 to come and play DDO, the general chat was nothing but trolls. I played for 3 hours today, and I never saw a single word in my chatbox that was generated by another player, I can live with that myself. It sure ain't DDO, but it is a clean and polished game.
I am purely saddened in my heart, because I know myself well enough to know that just the act of downloading and installing a different game, is the beginning of the end of my time with DDO. I love this game, but the incomplete content (with nary an act of even giving 1 PrE tier for just 1 single class per update), and the festering problem with breeding bugs, rather than eliminating them has all but broken this Camel's back.
I have been married for 18 years, and the last time I felt this crummy was when I broke up with a girlfriend in High School. I honestly see tons of words being tossed out about how much you all want to communicate with us, but it takes a forum full of raging gamers to get a comment passed down to us, like someone else said, it just seems it is being done to calm/placate the masses. I see no effective actions/ comments from 'Fernando' as we SHOULD.
It has been fun, but I honestly feel that the current attempts to placate us with fake threads to make us think our opinion means anything is exactly that, an attempt to placate us with fake threads.
I will still be around, but I have lost my hope. My prediction for 2012 is nothing will change. I would like to be wrong, but my prediction is the players will still be ignored, bugs will be ignored, the Known Issues list will only be paid attention to in so much as it will have additions made to it, not deletions.
I will try not to let the door hit me in the backside on my way out, there are a ton of you forumites I will miss more than the game itself anymore, since the forums are all that has kept me plugging along for the last 6 months or better. :(
Wow, you really do need to play WoW, this is a game, not worth the high blood pressure your getting. Why focus so much on the .001% of the game that has problems and focus instead on the 99.999% that works perfectly fine, unless you like the doom and gloom.
Vordax
Phemt81
12-30-2011, 09:40 PM
I hope to squash the lag beast. Halfway there.
I hope for more improvements in QA/Dev and communicating with the community.
I hope for a better Lammania. I hope to rename it too, because I can never remember if it is 2 N's or 2 M's...
I hope handwraps all get lit on fire and burned from the game and replaced with good MA weapons like Chucks and Sais. No true MA would use wraps. Toughen your hands kids.
I hope to start the 'no druids/AC change/NEW Spell Pass!' thread just to watch the rage.
Well, I'm going back to vacating, see you in 2012!
Response to the MadFloyd threads...he too is on vacation we are serious about listening.
Major said something.
Thanks MM! :)
JakLee7
12-30-2011, 10:17 PM
Tier 3 Bard - but only 1, the other two won't work
2 new races - Shifter and Kalashtar - Kalashtar is broken, see below; Shifter works but causes issues with handwraps
1 new class - Psion - druids are pushed back to 2013 until bugs with Shifter are fixed - Psions called OP by all
New Arti Pets added to DDO Store (see http://forums.ddo.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4007774)
Restless Isles facelift & upgrade
New raid - epic wildmen. Everyone hates it.
New quest items - they are useful, rare, and balanced. Many people are confused.
Various Alternate forUms are accidentaLly approved for a one week period, fernando starTs an account
The Spear finally gets into the game!
The Velah Meme skyrockets DDO's popularity, we see a commercial with President Jimmy Carter doing a Tempest Spine.
umeannothing
12-30-2011, 10:22 PM
Wow, you really do need to play WoW, this is a game, not worth the high blood pressure your getting. Why focus so much on the .001% of the game that has problems and focus instead on the 99.999% that works perfectly fine, unless you like the doom and gloom.
Vordax
I focus on the broken promises. I have 3 kids, 17, 8, and 4. The one thing they have been taught their whole life was that if you make a promise, you keep it. They learn well, the 2 older ones don't make promises as a rule now.
There is far less than 99.999% of the game that is [not] broken/non functioning. I would say 85% of the actual game play functions, and that is being generous. There are other issues behind the scenes that also suck a person's will to play the game as well.
GM's that are at best, consistently inconsistent. A policy to more or less assume that a player is lying when they open a ticket to say that items disappeared from a bank/inventory and tell them to file a bug report without even bothering to open a chat with them.
Leading the players on for how many years about a DDO file defragmenter before MajMal finally came out and told us it had been abandoned, presumably long ago.
And the icing on the cake is the leadership. There seems to be a serious lack of direction, flow, and leadership at Turbine. Seems to be I say.
I am just to the point that I have no hope that they will keep their promises anymore. Every update we hope for more PrE's, we hope for a class or race that has been asked for for YEARS and get something sub-par to what we asked for (Although the release of 1/2 Orcs was the last time I was REALLY excited about a content release and wanted to spend money on it)
It is time for me to get away, go play something else for awhile, and hopefully I will realize what I am missing before to long, and come back with a new appreciation, but I somehow won't hold my breath about it, I really can't see anything but more broken promises down the road. Brutal honesty is much better than broken promises in my opinion.
Phemt81
12-30-2011, 10:34 PM
knee-jack
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12423/12722066.jpg
My interpretation:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/joe-hardrh-cvs.gif
Tier 3 Bard - but only 1, the other two won't work
lol
wait... were you serious? :rolleyes:
Hafeal
12-30-2011, 10:56 PM
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12423/12722066.jpg
My interpretation:
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters2/joe-hardrh-cvs.gif
lol
wait... were you serious? :rolleyes:
LOL, I deserved that, I failed my typing skill roll ... not the first time! +1
GeneralDiomedes
12-30-2011, 11:02 PM
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Vordax
12-30-2011, 11:15 PM
I focus on the broken promises. I have 3 kids, 17, 8, and 4. The one thing they have been taught their whole life was that if you make a promise, you keep it. They learn well, the 2 older ones don't make promises as a rule now.
Got 4 myself, 17,14,12 and 8. Promises are important, I would agree. But kids will be kids and they will indubitably break some.
What promises from Turbine though? Druids? That was a really old promise and very few people exist at the company that were responsible for that one.
There is far less than 99.999% of the game that is [not] broken/non functioning. I would say 85% of the actual game play functions, and that is being generous. There are other issues behind the scenes that also suck a person's will to play the game as well.
So only 85% of the quest can be completed? 85% of the skills work? 85% of the spells work? 85% of the classes work? 85% of the level advancing works? Only 85% of the items in the game work? I think the 85% is a bit exaggerated don't you?
GM's that are at best, consistently inconsistent. A policy to more or less assume that a player is lying when they open a ticket to say that items disappeared from a bank/inventory and tell them to file a bug report without even bothering to open a chat with them.
I have only had good experiences with GM's. If the GM cannot return items, why bother opening a chat? The only thing that would result from that is the GM being yelled at by the customer. Sort of pointless when it is not the GM's fault that they can't help the customer. Now I do agree with Madfloyd, that they need to give the GM's the capability to look into lost items and replace them when possible.
Leading the players on for how many years about a DDO file defragmenter before MajMal finally came out and told us it had been abandoned, presumably long ago.
According MajMal it was abandoned because it was no longer necessary.
And the icing on the cake is the leadership. There seems to be a serious lack of direction, flow, and leadership at Turbine. Seems to be I say.
You don't actually know this, they just choose to keep this internal. Could they do more externally? Maybe, but if they go to far, the player base will just whine about broken promises.
I am just to the point that I have no hope that they will keep their promises anymore. Every update we hope for more PrE's, we hope for a class or race that has been asked for for YEARS and get something sub-par to what we asked for (Although the release of 1/2 Orcs was the last time I was REALLY excited about a content release and wanted to spend money on it)
Druid is the only class that I can remember them promising, and it was like "next year". No firm date/update.
It is time for me to get away, go play something else for awhile, and hopefully I will realize what I am missing before to long, and come back with a new appreciation, but I somehow won't hold my breath about it, I really can't see anything but more broken promises down the road. Brutal honesty is much better than broken promises in my opinion.Probably a good idea. I have done this before, several times. Things get stale and you need to take a break.
Vordax
Missing_Minds
12-30-2011, 11:31 PM
umeannothing...
Games are for fun. And like most things they WILL lose their shine and luster. When that happens, we can either go out bitter and upset, trying to make those around us feel the same way to make us feel better about our own feelings... or...
be mature and realize you had your fun, and it is either time for a break or time to say good bye. It happens.
The question is not if you will die, you will. But will it be with dignity or just malcontent? Most if not all of the posts I've read by you are filled with nothing but complaints. Is how you act all the time, what you teach your children? (you were the one to bring them into this, not me.) I hope you do not, and I doubt that you do act in that fashion all the time. But on the forums, this is the only side we've seen of you. To what end?
I doubt I'll survive 2012 to 2013 myself, but then... I've been here a long time. I've definitely had my fun and many a good time.
Phemt81
12-30-2011, 11:45 PM
umeannothing...
Games are for fun. And like most things they WILL lose their shine and luster. When that happens, we can either go out bitter and upset, trying to make those around us feel the same way to make us feel better about our own feelings... or...
be mature and realize you had your fun, and it is either time for a break or time to say good bye. It happens.
Is how you act all the time, what you teach your children? (you were the one to bring them into this, not me.)
I think i can get your point, cause you have one.
But, and you could say it's not my business here, there was no need to make it personal. Realize we are talking about a game and we can't judge how other people educate their children starting from here...
Just saying loud my honest opinion.
Luis_Velderve
12-30-2011, 11:45 PM
The Human Race will be removed from Eberron, clerics will follow them closely since most of them are human.
Fighters will retire to take cake of their grandkids because they can not shine in DDO.
Rangers will go to the deep forest in a long search for those Druids that someone said ¨coming soon¨ and will be returning with one willing to teach them more spells. The DRUNK is going to be the next new flavor.
Half Elves are going to wear masks forever.
RIFTS will open in the marketplace pouring 100´s of gnomes and psionicists.
Sword and Board will yield 70% DPS compared to a THF and Divines and Arcanes will benefit from it because fighters retired.
Paladins will turn to clerics because is the sensible thing to do after THE HUMAN RACE EXODUS from eberron.
Missing_Minds
12-31-2011, 12:55 AM
But, and you could say it's not my business here, there was no need to make it personal. Realize we are talking about a game and we can't judge how other people educate their children starting from here...
Just saying loud my honest opinion.
To me, children are personal. If he felt the need to bring them up to prove a point, then I'll use them to make a point. Indeed, we are acting about a game, but sometimes that fact is lost sight of and we end up behaving in manners that don't actually reflect how we are.
I have no idea how umeannothing is outside of these forums. But I seriously doubt what I've seen of his behavior here is any consistent reflection of how he acts on a daily bases. This is the last I'll say on this matter as it is way off topic from the op.
umeannothing
12-31-2011, 01:02 AM
umeannothing...
Games are for fun. And like most things they WILL lose their shine and luster. When that happens, we can either go out bitter and upset, trying to make those around us feel the same way to make us feel better about our own feelings... or...
be mature and realize you had your fun, and it is either time for a break or time to say good bye. It happens.
The question is not if you will die, you will. But will it be with dignity or just malcontent? Most if not all of the posts I've read by you are filled with nothing but complaints. Is how you act all the time, what you teach your children? (you were the one to bring them into this, not me.) I hope you do not, and I doubt that you do act in that fashion all the time. But on the forums, this is the only side we've seen of you. To what end?
I doubt I'll survive 2012 to 2013 myself, but then... I've been here a long time. I've definitely had my fun and many a good time.
In my case it isn't with malcontent in the least.
It is with sorrow. As far as making others feel anything at all, I apologize if I come across this way. I just want to get out there my reasons in a post that a Turbine rep I had the utmost respect for was watching I guess, and I also suppose to let Memnir know he is not the only disillusioned person out there, in some convoluted way.
Even WoW holds no excitement for me, I wouldn't even be there wasting my time if this mostly enjoyable game I do truly love like none I have played made me feel that player contributions (in the form of feedback, especially on the 'test' "preview" server) mattered.
I really and truly feel any more that the player is regarded as a second rate cash cow by this company. I really feel that the player is getting tossed a half chewed bone every once in awhile with some communication, but ONLY after a huge public outcry, I cannot recall when I last saw this company all on their own initiative ask for player feedback without a bunch of snarling gamers out there.
I feel that old content has been placed out of my reach as well, I spent several years learning the game before going to L20, just to get there, and, have the rules change, so to speak, as far as content difficulty goes.
I predict great things for DDO in 2013, but for 2012, I predict more and worse of the same we have already had.
I think 2013 is when Turbine is going to realize that maybe they should listen to the players and attempt to devise some content with player feedback as the driving force, Turbine lays out an idea, and lets the community give it's feedback.
I also feel that feedback survey's of many types from the store, to recent content releases, to GM support will be instituted in 2012, but not until late into the 4th quarter, it may be a survey is too complicated a system for them to design.
I also feel it is just time to stop logging into the game, for any reason, Turbine has nothing to lose there if I do, in fact, Turbine will come out ahead of the game as far as what I spent, and what time I used it is concerned.
But then there are people such as you missing, people who's posts I genuinely look forward to reading when I see them, people like Mem, and many, many others. I think above all, at the end of the day, it is the players of this game, and the community on the forums that will have me coming back in the long run.
umeannothing
12-31-2011, 01:05 AM
To me, children are personal. If he felt the need to bring them up to prove a point, then I'll use them to make a point. Indeed, we are acting about a game, but sometimes that fact is lost sight of and we end up behaving in manners that don't actually reflect how we are.
I have no idea how umeannothing is outside of these forums. But I seriously doubt what I've seen of his behavior here is any consistent reflection of how he acts on a daily bases. This is the last I'll say on this matter as it is way off topic from the op.
I would +1 you for this if I could.
red_cardinal
12-31-2011, 01:20 AM
I told him not to post until we get back....but he got all excited and well...look at it this way, he has all the time in the world to read everything now.
Edit: Let me just say he cares a ton, and in all my years is one of the most intelligent, and compassionate (when he isn't pulling pranks anyway) developers I've worked with.
Nobody is expecting you to care and NOT DO ANYTHING. Nobody is expecting pranks also, do pranks when you get the job done.
Hope is a frostitute, but in 2012:
=> Finish missing prestiges!
=> Buff up rarely used feats - slicing blow, whirlwind attack, etc.
=> Fix things on the known issues list!
umeannothing
12-31-2011, 04:14 AM
Nobody is expecting you to care and NOT DO ANYTHING. Nobody is expecting pranks also, do pranks when you get the job done.
Hope is a frostitute, but in 2012:
=> Finish missing prestiges!
=> Buff up rarely used feats - slicing blow, whirlwind attack, etc.
=> Fix things on the known issues list!
For 2012 damp dreams, this statement would sum it up. In it's entirety from the first letter typed to the last.
I had more to type, but let's just leave it right there, Red Cardinal said all that needs to be said, especially the opening sentence.
karl_k0ch
12-31-2011, 06:45 AM
I hope for a better Lammania. I hope to rename it too, because I can never remember if it is 2 N's or 2 M's...
Well, duh. It's two L's, of course!
Targonis
12-31-2011, 07:47 AM
You should know that how people respond to things can change based on their own life experience and current situation. The more stressed out someone is, the more of a need to relax and get away from work. If someone is in a good situation in their lives, they will be more inclined to see what is going on around them and to offer help, advice, and respond to questions.
Some people really love staying in touch with customers, and customer service is just a part of what they enjoy doing, when it doesn't deal with a lot of negativity. That is what I suspect you see going on when the employees post. If there are a lot of negative posts, you won't see as many responses, and constructive comments and questions have a greater chance to get a response, since those in development will see a chance to engage in a positive dialog about what they love doing.
So, take it for what it's worth. It is the holiday season, and with some extra time off, or at least, a less hectic work environment, you will see some people putting in extra effort, or reaching out, or just being more friendly. Then again, those who know what is going on with the development of DDO may not be able to talk about what is planned for 2012, but if they know fixes for long standing problems are due "soon", and many complaints will be addressed in the next few updates, they WILL feel better about the situation.
I know that when you feel helpless when it comes to an issue, there isn't much they can say, and "we know about it, but have no idea if/when it will be fixed" being an unpopular response will also build a sense of frustration. So, some of the positives we are seeing MAY be due to many of the complaints already being addressed, and Turbine just waiting for the next update or two for the solutions to be released.
Maj, again, major props for your communication. You have become the cult hero of these forums, no doubt.
That being said ...
Here is what is frustrating. No one denies Mad's vaca time. God bless him, he no doubt he deserves it AND needs it. But was it lack of foresight or a knee-jack reaction to quiet the forums that he started those threads? Did he not think they would generate a ton of interest and response? That it looks bad to start a thread and let it sit for his entire vaca time without acknowledgement? Either from him or anyone else onthe dev team?
The thread is not meant for the fanbois, they are going nowhere. The thread was for those in various stages of discontent. Again, it troubles me that those threads were started and players are excited to participate in it, whether fanbois or not, and no one, and I mean no one from Turbine can even step in and say, hey look, we appreciate the responses and we'll particfipate in these threads in the New Year. That is the respect of 'acknowledgment.' No response indicates that these threads will go down in the deep well of being ignored that the suggestion threads seem to all too often disappear into.
Why did it take my post to get your response? It shouldn't be that way. Perhaps DDO can dial up the WB PR department for some training. :(
Ungood
12-31-2011, 08:12 AM
No offense to anyone, but I am not going to read the last 6 pages,because it seemed things went in all kinds of unfun directions.
Now, I think we as Gamers, should have 2 ways to look at things when a thread like this comes up.
What we think will happen, In the realistic sense based on what we have seen in the past
What would like to happen in the future based on our own personal grasp of the game what directions it could take. Or even directions we would take it in, if it was out choice.
Now. Given these two criteria, my first prediction will be based on what I think will actually happen.
New Races:
Look in Review: Given Half Elf and Half Orc were put in, in 2010, and despite some of the reviews about them with people making fun of the fuglyness of the half elf, and the missing combat animations for the half orc, they were two very good races added to the game, that I feel gave a lot to the dynamic of play. I also believe they were good sellers, as I see them around all the time. Every raid I have been on has at least one of them in it. In that regard, and since it will have been 2 years since a new race was put, I believe that a new race will be added sometime in 2012 to spice things up.
Personal feelings on this: I do not think it will be gnomes, as they do not bring much to the table as per an MMO environment (No offense to people who really like gnomes), so I feel it will be a more dynamic combat driven race, in that regard, I have no early clue what is under plan.
What I would Do: First and Foremost, I would add a New Race of Warforged (a scout race) and make it it's own race, not a "gender" option. They would offer the same immunities that a normal War-forged have but look more human like (even having a gendered look to them) these Scout War Forged have opted to beat to their Swords to Plowshares and could fit into the lore of the Cannith War (Secrets of the Artificers The attack of the Lord of Blade) expansion pack, where the War-Forged race wanted to move forward from their Battle-Robot roots towards peaceful coexistence with the living beings, and thus starts with taking a step away from being traditional War-Forged and moving towards being more "life-forged" (Spare my lack of imagination at this point). To refelct this, they no longer get enhancements like: Construct Thinking, Brute Fighting, additional toughness enhancements, and a few things long those lines, but they would get new abilities like "New Life Versatility" which would really be just Human Versatility renamed. More Healing Amp Options, and things to move them into a more versatile role as opposed to a role of being a great fighter. They would also get a +2 con, and a +2 Dex to reflect their changes in body form, they would be lighter more agile then their predecessors, but still as hardy in the sense they are living metal and wood.
Why would I put this in? Well first off, I would hope it would be an easy implementation. I would not need to add in new animations, as they would use the same animations and docents/armor art as existing war forged. They would offer players more choices for War-Forged like races, allowing a move in that direction I think would be fun. And I think more players would be moved to buy this race. I feel many who want to play war-forged and even people who like war forged would like to able to get some variable flavors to a race that is for lack of a better term, malleable.
New Quests:
Look in Review: New Packs, new Quests, new expansions get players playing, this is the bread and butter of an MMO in many ways, and what extends their life expectancy. Quest packs keep the player base occupied, and busy doing something and having fun, as such, if not several smaller packs and adventures put in, at the very least, one larger one needs to be added in. Now, they just slapped up a level 20 adventure pack into the mix, in fact, 2, (if you include the challenges) so I feel that the next move would to be put in more mid level quests to fill the sparseness of the level 13 - 17 range of quests.
Personal Feelings on this: I think it would be a great idea to add in more quests, to build out the game so that a TR2 can do each quest only once on elite and be 20th by the time they finish their last 18th level non-raid quest. As it stands their is a bit of tightness in the mid levels and that just builds upon itself as the exp demand climbs so too does the demand to grind quests again and again. So this will be welcome.
What I would Do: Ok this is where you get your torches and pitch forks and get ready to hunt me down. but If I was to have control here, I would add in a while new line of challenges designed and targeted at solo play, in much the same way Raiding the Giants Vault, or Solo Quests are built, I would put a focus on the challenges to be there for people who may have limited time to log in, and want to run a fixed 10 min quest by themselves without the need for a group at any level. With the challenges they would have this open to them, log on, check to see if anything you want to do is up, if nothing strikes you, jump into a solo challenge quest and just play around. No worries that you end up with a 200 min run of a quest because that was all you saw, and end the night feeling totally discouraged. Solo Challenges would be a great way in my humble feeling, to give players some "mess around" time, they can log in for 20 min and feel like they had got some game time on, or an outlet for when we are wondering what to do next.
Note: yes I am well aware that many people can solo the current challenges, more power to them, but those people are not the norm, they are the upper level players, maybe not the top tier, but most adamantly they are a cut above the norm.
Bug Fixes:
A Look in Review: There are a great many issues with bugs, and Turbine seems to have a hankering for fixing all the bugs that don't bug us soo much and leaving the ones that seem to be infesting our entire game life. I do not think this will change as fixing the larger bugs takes more time and looks less impressive on the work sheet then fixing a buncha of small infinitesimal bugs that make it look like you did a metric ton of work.
Personal Feeling on This: The people who make this game, need to play it. They need to think about this from a gamers view of the game. The people who write the program for MS Word, use MS Word. The people who make a product should use it so they know what the customer wants, and the best way to know that, is to be your own customer. In many ways, where I work, I need to ask "What good will this do" and that becomes important, each day I am faced with choices of what I can get done, and what needs to be done, and I need to make a decision as to what will be the most impacting thing I can get done today. The developers and programmers need to apply that thought when they bug fix.
What I would Do: First and Foremost, I would put a stop gap on all new content to ensure it that was as bug free as I could make it, before it got added in. Nothing says unprofessional like needing to go back and redo your work after you said you were done with it. Case in point to the developers: They have lives, homes, cars, and things that break. Imagine if they needed to keep bringing their car back to the mechanic because he never quite fixed the car, and their was always something left undone. Or if you called a plumber to install your shower but it leaks when they said they were done? What does that say about their work ethic? About their quality? About their Skill?
This is a no-brainer here. Everyone knows what good work is, progrmabers do not live in fantasy land regarding this, just because it is complex is not an excuse, the human body is very complex, but I expect my doctor to fix me when I break it or at the very least, do the best they can. Would you go to a doctor that left things 'unfinished" when they worked on you? Come on! This is common sense, everyone wants the people they are paying to provide it. So, in that front, I would first focus on making sure all new content was clean, clear, crisp and policed to a shine and finished, that way, I save time and money on not needing to revisit it later on. being able to say :Good Job" to my staff and it actually be a good job, would build a positive ethic of the staff and company to make a quality finished product, this should be the motto about new content "Do it right the first time". Equally so, that would also allow for more time to be attributed to fixing older content and other bugs that was not given the proper care it needed at the onset.
But these are just my thoughts.
Riggs
12-31-2011, 10:27 AM
I predict Memnir should get a lifetime vip membership.
I predict Turbine should actually get serious about implementing base classes and Eberron specific races.
It is not launching a rocket to the moon - it is making a graphic on a computer change into a different looking, and maybe slightly larger, graphic on a computer (Druid shapeshifting, Shifters). Turbine can make all the claims it wants - but until the leadership actually puts some resources and targets on stuff that should have been released 3-4 years ago, and was either promised or toned down to merely hinted at, to dead silence now - pretty hard to take anything seriously.
Flatliner57
12-31-2011, 01:51 PM
I predict U13 will be "delayed" meaning, it won't come out in the normal schedule after u12 like it should (Early to mid January) though the devs will never say anything, and so ppl will endlessly argue back and forth about whether its really on schedule or not. Then in February, Cove will be reactivated with a few minor bug fixes. Ppl will argue endlessly about whether that is an update or not. And then come April, there will be a large update, with lots of small additions of things that have been asked for for years and probably a new PRE added that completely buffs a class, probably cleric, and ppl will argue endlessly about whether it really needed buffing or not. Then they'll do some fixes to the lag, that ppl will then come on the forums and argue endlessly with some ppl saying that nothing has changed, and they are just as laggy as before and others will say that everything is perfect for them and that the problem ppl just need to get better computers.
After, the rest of the year will be back and forth. There will be less content (than last year), with ppl complaining about how the game is going downhill, but there will be a lot more fixes to minor bugs, though a few major ones will stick around, and probably at least 1 other major one will appear. Lifetime VIP will be added late in the year, causing some to scream Dooo000m, and others to be like "oooh, I get to save money now!"
Oh, I also expect there to be a new major raid added next year (Either April or Juneish updates) that is fairly casual, and has really nice loot for endgame, but doesn't really replace anything, essentially attempting to become the next Shroud. The hardcore endgamers will find it worthless though, and therefore not really play it after the first few weeks, and the lack of good leaders will make it so lfms for the raid only appear once an hour or so, but fill up really quick. There will be lots of fails at first, which might kill it for the playerbase, until about 3-5 months pass and the casuals start getting good at it.
stoerm
12-31-2011, 03:55 PM
I predict U13 will be "delayed" meaning, it won't come out in the normal schedule after u12 like it should (Early to mid January) though the devs will never say anything, and so ppl will endlessly argue back and forth about whether its really on schedule or not. Then in February, Cove will be reactivated with a few minor bug fixes. Ppl will argue endlessly about whether that is an update or not. And then come April, there will be a large update, with lots of small additions of things that have been asked for for years and probably a new PRE added that completely buffs a class, probably cleric, and ppl will argue endlessly about whether it really needed buffing or not.
ROFL! Mark these words. I'd just predict the associated doooom threads will contain the words vast and mysterious.
Mudcnd
12-31-2011, 05:49 PM
I predict a whole bunch of Ferd threads in 2012....
Thrudh
12-31-2011, 06:52 PM
People will look back on the content released in 2011, especially the challenges, and realize that Turbine's actually added quite a bit of fun content to the game. This will shock many forumites who were under the impression that Turbine suxxored all year long. ;)
People that have or play with people using massive amounts of gear, past lives, and skill will continue to complain about class balance. Turbine will listen to the complaints and buff arcanes and artificers.
Turbine will continue to have QA issues that have little to do with their QA and lots to do with management, release schedules, and priorities. Buggy code will continue to get pushed out the door despite QA protesting that things need fixed.
We will get Druids in time for Christmas but the shifting will either have a massive bug or a massive exploit. If it's a bug people will kvetch for months but nothing substantive will come of it. If it's an exploit then Turbine will have no choice but to disable shifting on their new pay-only class which will cause apoplectic seizures from a sizable portion of the forumites. These collective seizures will be the catalyst that brings on the Mayan apocalypse of 2012 in which zombies come out of all of the Mayan tombs to spread their zombie contagion over the entire world.
Pure awesome +1
slimkj
12-31-2011, 07:13 PM
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
Not wishing to sound like a suck up, but this is what's kept me playing for so long despite the disappointments along the road. Fiddling with SWTOR now and whilst some of it's ok, the combat sucks compared to DDO. Such a good base and why I'll be back.
Bit of a shame some of the direction lately (*cough*UI*cough) but the core engine is still the best out there.
Missing_Minds
12-31-2011, 07:33 PM
I hope handwraps all get lit on fire and burned from the game and replaced with good MA weapons like Chucks and Sais. No true MA would use wraps. Toughen your hands kids.
I knew something was pestering me on that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVoT0_GlC14&feature=related
or you pull up street fighter arcade and look up the gloves they like to wear. (Ken, Ryu, etc.)
Now, realistically, brass knuckles would get in the way of rings, but then again, you wear 5 rings, and you might as well have brass knuckles also.
Solmage
12-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Did they try?
Did they even want to?
Because if not, if they programed exactly the kind of thing they wanted to, then this really means nothing.
Blizzard could have a rejoinder of something along the lines of, "But oddly, Turbine with their real time combat couldn't pull off the mass-appeal to draw in more money then most small countries... hrm."
...just sayin'.
Age of Connan did try. They gave up because they couldn't pull it off, and they were backed by Microsoft at the time. Turbine has always been horribly under funded, and now when things were finally looking up they get bought by WB - something tells me they didn't get bought to pour resources into DDO.
Wow went for Everquest II. They did NOT go for any innovation. So at least let's give some credit where it's due.
Xyfiel
12-31-2011, 10:14 PM
I do not expect them to fix the MOTHER FN bug where you can't freaking ATTACK when the mouse is over ANYTHING other than landscape. Why the HECK (actually insert another string of expletives) you have blocked keyboard input by mouse position is beyond me.
Possible fix:
options panel>UI>"Combat takes precedence over non-combat"
Never had your problem, but I have this setting on all characters.
Targonis
12-31-2011, 10:25 PM
Delays due to system changes/improvements should not be seen as a bad thing, because extra QA would be needed there. New content is new content, but new classes, spells, game features, and so on DO run the risk of breaking other things.
I predict U13 will be "delayed" meaning, it won't come out in the normal schedule after u12 like it should (Early to mid January) though the devs will never say anything, and so ppl will endlessly argue back and forth about whether its really on schedule or not. Then in February, Cove will be reactivated with a few minor bug fixes. Ppl will argue endlessly about whether that is an update or not. And then come April, there will be a large update, with lots of small additions of things that have been asked for for years and probably a new PRE added that completely buffs a class, probably cleric, and ppl will argue endlessly about whether it really needed buffing or not. Then they'll do some fixes to the lag, that ppl will then come on the forums and argue endlessly with some ppl saying that nothing has changed, and they are just as laggy as before and others will say that everything is perfect for them and that the problem ppl just need to get better computers.
After, the rest of the year will be back and forth. There will be less content (than last year), with ppl complaining about how the game is going downhill, but there will be a lot more fixes to minor bugs, though a few major ones will stick around, and probably at least 1 other major one will appear. Lifetime VIP will be added late in the year, causing some to scream Dooo000m, and others to be like "oooh, I get to save money now!"
Oh, I also expect there to be a new major raid added next year (Either April or Juneish updates) that is fairly casual, and has really nice loot for endgame, but doesn't really replace anything, essentially attempting to become the next Shroud. The hardcore endgamers will find it worthless though, and therefore not really play it after the first few weeks, and the lack of good leaders will make it so lfms for the raid only appear once an hour or so, but fill up really quick. There will be lots of fails at first, which might kill it for the playerbase, until about 3-5 months pass and the casuals start getting good at it.
mystafyi
12-31-2011, 10:54 PM
Because if not, if they programed exactly the kind of thing they wanted to, then this really means nothing.
Blizzard could have a rejoinder of something along the lines of, "But oddly, Turbine with their real time combat couldn't pull off the mass-appeal to draw in more money then most small countries... hrm."
...just sayin'.
I loved seeing Maj try and poke fun at blizzard.... sadly the facts are that wow brings in more revenue per year then the entire company of turbine was recently sold to Time Warner for.
...just sayin
Thrudh
01-01-2012, 12:55 AM
I have been married for 18 years, and the last time I felt this crummy was when I broke up with a girlfriend in High School.
You take this game way too seriously... Have fun with WoW.
Thrudh
01-01-2012, 12:58 AM
umeannothing...
Games are for fun. And like most things they WILL lose their shine and luster. When that happens, we can either go out bitter and upset, trying to make those around us feel the same way to make us feel better about our own feelings... or...
be mature and realize you had your fun, and it is either time for a break or time to say good bye. It happens.
This. Oh my God this.
I can't believe how many "adults" post on these boards all emo over a freaking video game, moaning about broken promises, like this is some girlfriend who betrayed you.
I mean, I have played at least 100 different video games over my lifetime, and they ALL get put aside at some point, and I move on to another game. I never got ANGRY at the developers of those games for breaking their trust with me. Instead I remember my favorite games fondly and have fun with the next one.
Yes, MMOs are different, but they are not THAT different... I played Battlefield 1942 for a year straight... There's also no way to "finish" First-person-shooters, just like MMOs... I had SUCH a blast playing it... And then I finally got tired of it, and quit.
It happens. That's normal. I still remember that game fondly (especially Coral Sea!)
I loved seeing Maj try and poke fun at blizzard.... sadly the facts are that wow brings in more revenue per year then the entire company of turbine was recently sold to Time Warner for.
...just sayin
yeah but look people are paying for, a blind chimp could play wow without much trouble and do well
NaturalHazard
01-01-2012, 01:59 AM
Threads of DOOM!!!
thats my future predictions for 2012.
I know its like predicting it will rain sometime in 2012 in New Zealand.
Galeria
01-01-2012, 05:12 PM
I told him not to post until we get back....but he got all excited and well...look at it this way, he has all the time in the world to read everything now.
Edit: Let me just say he cares a ton, and in all my years is one of the most intelligent, and compassionate (when he isn't pulling pranks anyway) developers I've worked with.
This is very cool to know. These little tidbits of "realness" go a long way towards offsetting the silence.
mournbladereigns
01-01-2012, 05:48 PM
It will end in Flames!
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Psiandron
01-01-2012, 05:52 PM
Programming can be really difficult. Its far more ephemoral than most people realize. Its especially difficult to fix/rework someone else's code, all the moreso if it was not kept to a high object-oriented standard and functions that should have been broken out separately were buried in other, irrelavent coding and the whole was poorly commented. I'm not saying that that's what has gone on in DDO, I have no way of knowing; however, there have been indications that that is in fact the case.
At any rate I'm hoping that 2012 the devs are able to get things in hand and Turbine:
reduces the number of active bugs in the game and minimize the memory leak and other sources of lag currently inherent in the game,
finishes the incomplete PRE's,
tries to maintain a dialogue with its playbase that several Turbine employees seem to be in favor of,
starts taking steps which will make AC a more viable part of this game,
turns Lammania into a beta-site,
brings out the druid class,
makes pets/familiars available to everyone who should have them,
brings out a couple new quest chains (3-5 quests, which culminate in a raid) for 17-20 level toons,
makes a new commitment to in-game customer service (I haven't had a problem myself, but some of the example's I've seen posted have been positively shameful)
I suppose its really a wishlist more than a prediction, but I never claimed to be Nostradamus and if you made me play seer I'd just predict "DOOOOOOOOOOOMM" because that's always a safe bet. :)
After reading through this thread I'm
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There have been several people post that they're probably at the end of their time with the game. These are people who obviously care about the game and have been vocal in espousing their thoughts, opinions and experiences with the game in the hope that it might achieve something more of its promise. Should you all choose to move on, I hope you consider coming back after a time.
To everyone, a happy New Year (All of you on the Gregorian Calendar or the Chinese Calendar may redeem this wish at a more appropriate time. :))
mournbladereigns
01-01-2012, 05:57 PM
In my case it isn't with malcontent in the least.
It is with sorrow. As far as making others feel anything at all, I apologize if I come across this way. I just want to get out there my reasons in a post that a Turbine rep I had the utmost respect for was watching I guess, and I also suppose to let Memnir know he is not the only disillusioned person out there, in some convoluted way.
But then there are people such as you missing, people who's posts I genuinely look forward to reading when I see them, people like Mem, and many, many others. I think above all, at the end of the day, it is the players of this game, and the community on the forums that will have me coming back in the long run.
lolololol. 99% of the people on the forums are disillusioned with the game, but don't have the good sense to quit and do something else.
And the community is always trying harder than Turbine to make me hate them.
Don't hate the game. Hate the Player.
Turbine changes the game all the time, the players stay the same, e-peen waving, xp/min grinding, End-game complaining, turbine will never get another cent from me, I hate this game that I play 40 hours a week *****ing old geezers and basement dwellers.
mournbladereigns
01-01-2012, 06:07 PM
http://youtu.be/jwlYo8EYTWI
This isn't like I have said anything new about wanting to give Turbine my money, I do. Unfortunately, Turbine won't keep it's promises, Turbine won't finish the parts of the game that are currently there, hell, Turbine seems to look for excuses to to NOT finish things like PrE's, base core aspects of the game.
I haven't called for any head removal in my post, I stated a simple fact, that fact is that when you have lost the faith of a player that has been here for YEARS trying to be positive about the game, a player that has always given very solid input and feedback, well worded posts, and that person is predicting they won't be here in 2012, it is a very, very sad day.
This quote, it about broke my heart to read it man:
Like I said Maj, at what point is Turbine going to do the things the players have been asking for? Since it has been said that 2012 updates are pretty much in the bag, what year can the players predict to see some of the core things they beg for repeatedly?
Missing_Minds
01-01-2012, 06:29 PM
Possible fix:
options panel>UI>"Combat takes precedence over non-combat"
Never had your problem, but I have this setting on all characters.
Don't play with mouse, play only keyboard and see how well it works for you. That setting has never done jack or **** for me.
edit: my frustration with this is directed at the developers for keeping this bug in for freaking years even if it does BREAK combat badly.
mystafyi
01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
I hate this game that I play 40 hours a week *****ing old geezers and basement dwellers.
LOLOL ty for the laugh
red_cardinal
01-02-2012, 02:11 AM
Comparing WoW's capabilities to DDO is kinda silly. At prime they had more people on WoW that we had as employees running 3 games. Of course they could do more. Has nothing to do with head removal.
But oddly, WoW couldn't pull off real time combat...hrm.
No, it's not silly. If "real time combat" for you means "instant cast spells and abilities without some pause in between using them" you don't have it either. Wow has instant spells since start - Moonfire, Fire blast, etc. and most spells take a 1-3 seconds to cast. So do you - summoning for instance takes about 5 seconds or so. Sure, you have more instant cast combat spells, but then again - THERE'S A COOLDOWN. Same goes for melee - you have instant cleave, greater cleave, whirlwind attack (WHICH IS BORKED!!) but you have a COOLDOWN to reduce physics checks. And despite COOLDOWNs, you nerfed tempests and still didn't fix lag issues.
The only thing that goes around here is not how much content can you produce, but how GOOD content you produce - quality over quantity! And I don't think that missing prestiges, broken feats, unrevised spells have ANYTHING AT ALL to do with lack of manpower or money.
Let's take a look what does, for instance Assassin I prestige bring:
- 3 poison click abilities with (erm...) unique icons - you have "numbered click ability" already implemented and "unique icons" were a real tough assignment for your graphics department.
- some passive bonuses to existing skills - 1d6 SA, + to bluff, etc. - this does require coding to put it into works, but it doesn't require the whole month (!).
Now, if most abilities are somewhat like Assassin I prestige - most aren't, but they're similar in those things mentioned - some clickable ability, "unique" icon, +passive bonuses.
So, what's so hard to implement here for clerics, bards, rangers, etc.?
If you're so PROUD (propaganda bullspit) about your combat system, why don't you implement it as it should be implemented?!!! I DIDN'T NOTICE that you care that:
-> prestiges are done till the end for every class in DDO - THIS REFLECTS YOUR COMBAT SYSTEM (Wow has these complete!),
-> there are broken feats or feats that don't scale with level/stat modifier - REVIEW THEM - Whirlwind Attack, Shoot on the run, Slicing blow, etc. -> Clickable and passive FEATS are CORE to character development and to the COMBAT SYSTEM!!!!
You just can't get away from an irresponsible way you've been doing this game for years now. Sure, it's not game breaking, but yes - it is game breaking!
Stuff like that tends to **** me off because your COMBAT SYSTEM is suffering from something called INCOMPLETENESS. One thing is to balance things in the system, the other is when stuff is not done till end.
zebidos
01-02-2012, 07:44 AM
- Expanded challenges
- Two new House cannith packs levels 10 - 13 and 13 - 16. The packs will include alot more blowing up things, like towns, planets etc
- Revamping of harbor quests, some new content, reworking of existing dungeons
- Rework of the house favour system
- DOT nerf
- More raid loot in the DDO store
- Greensteel deconstruction
- Hireling revamp with corresponding lag/bugs then revamp again
- New race Doppelganger/Changeling (taken cookie is a hint)
- Crafting revamp
- Moar dots
Arnhelm
01-02-2012, 09:24 AM
it will end in flames!
http://roleplaying.diraven.net/babylon5/rcc/images/y5_25.jpg
+1
Razcar
01-03-2012, 05:05 AM
2012. Hmm.
One new raid. Either the Truthful one and a finish to the Stormreaver story line, or something new.
Some packs with mid-level Cannith quests.
Maybe Druid at the end of the year.
They will try to make Challenges more popular.
One new system introduced- hopefully Epic levels after 20, combined with a new Epic questing system. End game systems needs some serious attention.
Finishing the PrEs will still be put on the back burner, until the Turbine suits find a way to sell them
There have been several people post that they're probably at the end of their time with the game. These are people who obviously care about the game and have been vocal in espousing their thoughts, opinions and experiences with the game in the hope that it might achieve something more of its promise.
While it is sad leaving a game you have enjoyed for several years, it can also be argued that all MMOs do have a set life span for every player, and that that is not necessarily a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with serial monogamy. (Or even MMO polyamory, if you have the time and money ;))
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