F2p Elf utility/ melee build

[blkcat1028]

A friend requested that I come up with a build for him. He had some specific requirements; open locks/ trap skills, ranged ability, melee ability, and decent hit points. It also had to be f2p and a 28 point build.

This is what I came up with...


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Elf f2p morganstern build
Level 20 True Neutral Elf Male
(8 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 11 Ranger)
Hit Points: 372
Spell Points: 310
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 16
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 15 22
Dexterity 15 20
Constitution 13 14
Intelligence 11 12
Wisdom 12 13
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 15
Bluff 3 4
Concentration 1 3
Diplomacy -1 0
Disable Device 4 17
Haggle 3 3
Heal 1 1
Hide 2 5
Intimidate -1 0
Jump 6 21
Listen 1 3
Move Silently 2 5
Open Lock 6 18
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 1
Search 4 22
Spot 5 18
Swim 2 6
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longbow
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot


Level 8 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 11 (Ranger)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistance Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Scimitar Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III




With Minos, a +6 CON item, GFL, and a GS hit point item the hp will break 500. I also tried to minimize tome use as well.

What do you think?

Thanks,
R

[Culver.Civello]

f2p means they won't have access to GS hp item, nor Minos. Minos you could probably get with a pass as long as someone grinds out the taps for you ahead of time. GS will be pretty much impossible unless you buy the pack. Also, wouldn't it be easier for him to just grind out 400favor and get Drow instead of Elf. Though you would miss out on Scimitars I do believe at the cost of a few extra ability points. Meh... so-so.

Though, possibly taking UMD wouldn't be a bad idea? If so, I'd probably drop jump, which you could live without. You'll be able to get jump spell with ranger levels. Then to max it out each level, probably spot. It is nice to have, but it is a give or take. I'd personally prefer UMD, but I guess that is up to what he is willing to do.

Still, all around solid build for a new player with limited options.

But what do I know? It is 4:30am and I still ain't asleep.

[blkcat1028]

I can't believe I didn't think about dropping jump for UMD. Good thoughts. Thanks!

[unbongwah]

First off, dump-stat WIS; this build is MAD enough for 28-pt build without wasting pts there. I'd put the pts into STR & CON.

Second, did you consider rogue 7 / rgr 11 / ftr 2 instead? You give up HPs & extra feats for more SA DPS & a lot more skill pts; or it would let you dump INT for more, say, DEX while still keeping your skills up.

[unbongwah]

Quick-n-dirty draft of what I was thinking:


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Level 20 True Neutral Elf Male
(2 Fighter \ 7 Rogue \ 11 Ranger)
Hit Points: 262
Spell Points: 250
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 4

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 17
Dexterity 17 20
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 7 15
Bluff -1 1
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device 3 22
Haggle -1 -1
Heal -1 -1
Hide 3 9
Intimidate -1 -1
Jump 7 7
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 3 9
Open Lock 7 16
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search 3 24
Spot 2 19
Swim 3 3
Tumble 4 6
Use Magic Device 3 22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Fighter)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 8 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+7)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Hamstring


Level 16 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+7)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II

[voodoogroves]

Why not just a classic exploiter / fighter variant?

[unbongwah]

Why not just a classic exploiter / fighter variant?
While that's certainly doable, if the OP's friend wants a F2P elf AA / trapmonkey, rgr 12-18 doesn't add much to this build: an extra FE, lvl 4 spells, a couple more rgr enhs - that's about it. Extra ftr lvls add more HPs & feats (at the expense of skill pts); extra rogue lvls add more SA & skill pts (at the expense of feats & HPs).

[blkcat1028]

Cool beans, now we have some options.
Thanks for the input.

[voodoogroves]

While that's certainly doable, if the OP's friend wants a F2P elf AA / trapmonkey, rgr 12-18 doesn't add much to this build: an extra FE, lvl 4 spells, a couple more rgr enhs - that's about it. Extra ftr lvls add more HPs & feats (at the expense of skill pts); extra rogue lvls add more SA & skill pts (at the expense of feats & HPs).

Yeah, I'd j ust suggest a newer player stay a bit more consistent. Some of the nuance is lost, they take a level at the wrong time, it mucks their skill or BAB progression, etc.

Definitely, both will work.