View Full Version : Has Harm changed?
elg582
11-16-2011, 11:17 PM
So I've been leveling up some characters, and I noticed that I've started being killed by Harm.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Harm
Charges the target with negative energy dealing 10 points of damage per caster level. (Maximum damage 150.) A successful Will save reduces the damage by half. Harm cannot reduce the target's hit points to less than 1. Against Undead targets this spell heals like Heal.
So I figured something must have changed; have they made this spell useful? Can I load it up on my cleric and start Harming stuff to death?
Nope, doesn't work for me; reduces them to 1 hp and that's it. Just another spell that works better for enemies than it does for us.
You know, with as much effort as they claim to be putting into this game, you'd think that they could find a better way to make it challenging than by flat-out cheating.
MsEricka
11-16-2011, 11:41 PM
Honestly? Screen shot or it didn't happen.
I doubt you were killed by harm, it's more likely you were left at 1hp and something else got you. Or perhaps it was an inflict spell, and not harm.
elg582
11-16-2011, 11:56 PM
Honestly? Screen shot or it didn't happen.
I doubt you were killed by harm, it's more likely you were left at 1hp and something else got you. Or perhaps it was an inflict spell, and not harm.
I didn't think to SS it at the time, but I checked my combat log; I was killed by harm, and it's been happening somewhat frequently of late.
rayworks
11-17-2011, 05:10 AM
I've also been killed by Harm. Most recently in Acute Delirium.
TheDearLeader
11-17-2011, 05:24 AM
Have you tried Harming someone else in private PvP to test and see if that kills them/leaves them at 1 HP? It's not conclusive evidence, but it's a start.
Failedlegend
11-17-2011, 07:36 AM
My Palemaster says YES...start carrying it :P
PNellesen
11-17-2011, 08:01 AM
My Palemaster says YES...start carrying it :P
My Clerics always have Harm ready for the PMs - I love it when I see one getting really low on HP, hit them with Harm, and hear them ask "hey, how did my HP get back to full so fast???"
I don't have any screenies, but I seem to remember killing low-HP mobs recently with Harm, which seemed odd at the time. I'll try it again next time I'm on and see if it's really happening.
Failedlegend
11-17-2011, 08:25 AM
My Clerics always have Harm ready for the PMs - I love it when I see one getting really low on HP, hit them with Harm, and hear them ask "hey, how did my HP get back to full so fast???"
I carry a healthy supply of Harm Scrolls on my PM (the collector gives em out like candy) but nothing compares to a Harm hit from an actual cleric.
Cam_Neely
11-17-2011, 08:26 AM
My Clerics always have Harm ready for the PMs - I love it when I see one getting really low on HP, hit them with Harm, and hear them ask "hey, how did my HP get back to full so fast???"
You have created a generation of lazy PMs that expect all clerics to now heal them.
By generation I mean me.
So spoiled.
Failedlegend
11-17-2011, 08:29 AM
You have created a generation of lazy PMs that expect all clerics to now heal them.
By generation I mean me.
So spoiled.
I was a Warforged PM (who was my first and most played toon) before I TRed...Clerics never heal me in or out of form (or before PM existed)....I pretty much never rely on healers on any toons because of this...sometimes I forget to invite healers for other people (i just invite the first 5-11 people)
PNellesen
11-17-2011, 08:54 AM
You have created a generation of lazy PMs that expect all clerics to now heal them.
See, it's really in my best interest - you guys are so busy nuking everything in sight then running from the stuff you miss that you forget to hea...er...Har...err.. make yourselves all better. You're like little Barbarians with SP instead of greataxes...
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