Another Shroud End Reward Complaint

[Grosbeak07]

Dear Devs,

Getting an End Reward list like the one below, is not fun.

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq99/Hoaryredpoll/SCREENSHOT00041_crop.jpg

Not shown was a Medium Scale and a Tales of Valor. As has been stated before, the last thing many of us need is small ingredients and I really hate getting 2 or 3 of the same item in my list. Please Adjust.

[Glenalth]

Some changes are needed.


Would love to see a choice along the lines of...

1d2 small scales
1d2 small shrapnel
1d2 small chain
1d2 small arrowhead
1d2 small bone
1d2 small stone
1d3+1 random mediums
1 random large or S/M/L shard
1 random energy cell
Legendary Victory

Guaranteed smalls, good chance of a med you need, small chance of getting the right large or a shard, and a guaranteed 1000 guild renown for anyone that passes them up.

[GotSomeQuestions]

Of the eight items, each one has about a 5/8 chance of being a small, 3/8 of being a medium, and 1/8 of being something special (large, shard, demon blood, etc etc). That means that on average, you'll get one "special" item each time, but sometimes you won't get any.

[Galeria]

I would just like to see all the duplicates removed. That is plain old sloppy.

[oweieie]

Yes, much rather get the regular items, worst case I get crafting materials, but major pots (to actually run the raid with) and large guild augment items were nice pulls too.

Why not at a minimum use the "Quest End Reward Based on Class" to determine if they're going to get useful loot or this useless garbage?

[Grosbeak07]

I would just like to see all the duplicates removed. That is plain old sloppy.

Totally Agree.

[Dragavon]

I so agree with this.

I have completed 5 Shrouds since update, one of those elite, and from 4 of those I got only small/medium ingreds. On the 5th I got a large ingred that was useful to me.

But Shroud end rewards as they are now sucks donkey balls. :mad:

[Qaliya]

I would just like to see all the duplicates removed. That is plain old sloppy.

It's embarrassing, actually.

I stand up for Turbine a lot here when it comes to programming and QA issues, but it is unfathomable to me how this was allowed into a live update, especially given how simple it is to prevent from happening.

[BOgre]

duplicates in end rewards isn't new. 2 of 3 quest I run end up with 2 or 3 identical 'random loot gen' **** rewards. Why should the most popular and arguably most important raid in the game be any differnent???

I've been trying to put a happy face on the last few weeks and support Turb's direction with U12, but it's getting tougher and tougher to do.

I"m sorry Maj, Tolero, Cordovan, and whoever else is reading nowadays, but you need to relay the message that Turbine is really dropping the ball. Can you please start taking this seriously? Your latest efforts are sub-par at best, a complete waste of electrons at worst. An embarrassment. If this is the best you can do, I'd prefer you shut the project down completely and start work on DDO2.

[mudfud]

If demon's blood wasn't so easy to get I would have been happy getting it on normal end reward list earlier today.

[GregorianPL]

At all u got little chance for +3 bound tome already 2 of my guildiess droped them.. 1 of them droped demon's blood, i had no luck and droped only once deplated h energy cell..

[fn_Chopper]

Wow! A thread of people complaining about finishing shroud runs.

[RedOrm]

I have to agree with the previous posters: the new shroud endreward is rubbish.
Small and medium ingredients are dead easy to farm, and really have NO place on that list. MULTIPLE COPIES of a small or medium ingredient on the list is just ridiculous.
I'm very glad Hard and Elite have the added incentive of extra chests in part 5, but can we *please* have the old end-reward lists back??

[Infant]

If this is the best you can do, I'd prefer you shut the project down completely and start work on DDO2.

wow... just wow!

[BOgre]

no, really. I'm paid up for another 10 months, but geez... i'd still rather loose that if it meant a brand new platform, start from scratch, clean slate...

[Tocawe]

I so agree with this.

I have completed 5 Shrouds since update, one of those elite, and from 4 of those I got only small/medium ingreds. On the 5th I got a large ingred that was useful to me.

But Shroud end rewards as they are now sucks donkey balls. :mad:

If you would rather have five random vendor trash/deconstruct items than one useful large, I'm sure we could arrange a trade ;).

[Infant]

no, really. I'm paid up for another 10 months, but geez... i'd still rather loose that if it meant a brand new platform, start from scratch, clean slate...

No question, having a new, shiny, lag- and bugfree DDO would be great. But putting it the way you put it isn't exactly encouraging for anyone. Another post for a dev to read and "/squelch", imho.

I am not happy with everything Turbine does, but still prefer to stay polite.

Infant

[Dendrix]

Put in one random Vale Materials and one random Wedge Piece in every end reward list would make them a **** sight more attractive.

[Templarion]

I don't care. It's the loot, not the reward.

Previously, when I got reward, I always sold it. On very rare occasions I got anything useful from Shroud reward.

And btw, you have medium horn and whats above that?

[Palantyr]

I liked the random loot gen vendor trash rewards better than the current list of smalls/mediums and occoasional somthing else. Usually I just take the renown anyhow but preferred having a shot at a major or large augment slot.

[Miow]

Like when you take renown and it goes into your inventory and you can't use it? Drag and destroy...that was nice.

[djl]

no, really. I'm paid up for another 10 months, but geez... i'd still rather loose that if it meant a brand new platform, start from scratch, clean slate...

Wouldn't solve anything. The problem is with the developer, not the game. Even if they started from scratch and rebuilt a new game, the same problems would arise because the source of the problem is not legacy code creating issues nor is it that the game is so large the code has become unstable.

The real problem is the developers trying to pinch pennies by not paying for a decent QA department and choosing to cut corners when creating new content to save money on R&D. Lets face it, it barely requires any resources to recycle content with slightly varied mechanics (e.g. Challenges), beef up old raids (i.e. the changes to Shroud, Abbott, EDQ, etc) and wrap that all up together to call it a "high level update."

[Qaliya]

Even suggesting that they abandon DDO and rewrite it from scratch as "DDO2" shows that someone is not in the realm of the serious. This would make absolutely no economical sense.

Is perhaps the crux of the problem that they are putting out too many updates? It was less than two months from U11 to U12. Perhaps they are trying too hard to update the game to keep people interested.

Let's put it a different way. Suppose that instead of U11 having been released in September and then U12 in November, all of the content from both had come out at once in Nobember. I think people would consider it a pretty darned nice update. I would -- I thought U11 had some really solid new content. But U12 seems pale by comparison to U11 in a number of ways, and U11 had some problems with bugs and balance that could have been resolved before it was released.

In some ways Turbine may be doing to the game what zergers do to difficult quests. :)

[Zaodon]

Turbine Devs,

please check this logic.

1. Each "phase" of shroud gives BETTER ingredients. Smalls, then Mediums, and if you make it far enough, Large Ingredients. IF YOU MAKE IT FAR ENOUGH is the key phrase there.
2. In order to get the end reward, you must fully complete Shroud, i.e. all 5 phases.
3. Logically, then, the END REWARD should be better than the 5th chest. In other words, the End Reward should be a guaranteed Large Ingredient (which is better than the 5th chest, which is only a *chance* at a large ingredient.)

Therefore, please LOGICALLY fix the end reward list to limit itself to only large ingredients, supreme shards of power, boot ingredients, and tomes.

Thanks.

[Strider1963]

I agree with the above by Zaedon... If theyre going to give ingredients as the end reward, there should be a guaranteed large. I also recieved multiple duplicates of smalls and only 1 medium. Or simply, go back to to the old rewards and do away with the blades in part 4 and all the wipes..

[MrkGrismer]

I would just like to see all the duplicates removed. That is plain old sloppy.

They have long needed to add a simple filter to make sure there are no dupes in ALL end reward lists.

As for Shroud end reward, I agree with the Zaodon as well, although having Vale ingredients on there (as an addition) would be nice as well.

[mutilador]

LOL after completed elite shroud last night i got the same end-reward list but a medium shrapnel not horn.
Turbine this is a bad joke!

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

Dear Devs,
Not shown was a Medium Scale and a Tales of Valor. As has been stated before, the last thing many of us need is small ingredients and I really hate getting 2 or 3 of the same item in my list. Please Adjust.

I personally like the change, in principle. But yeah, it was sloppy implementation. They, IMO, need to:

1. Remove duplicates.
2. Increase chance of +3tomes/ToD boots/Cleansing shards/larges.
3. Guarantee of Impressive Trophy or Legendary Victory.

[In_Like_Flynn]

Wow! A thread of people complaining about finishing shroud runs.Hahaha! +1

[BOgre]

No question, having a new, shiny, lag- and bugfree DDO would be great. But putting it the way you put it isn't exactly encouraging for anyone. Another post for a dev to read and "/squelch", imho.

I am not happy with everything Turbine does, but still prefer to stay polite.

Infant

I'm sure you're right. Like I said, I tried to stay positive since buying VIP, and I do enjoy it, it's just this last update has me riled... aplologies :)