bard12 Fighter6 - backup tank?

[NovaNZ]

UPDATE - 795 HP self buff; 875 HP with Arti buff. See updated build.

OP title should be Bard14/fgt6! - credit for the idea for this build goes to Ganak and MaddMatt70.

THF/S&B
independant HP - 703
With arti in parti (dwarf poem:eek:) HP = 773
? lvl 18 - swap out extend and replace with maximise.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
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Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Dwarf Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Bard)
Hit Points: 418
Spell Points: 421
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 18 26
Dexterity 8 10
Constitution 18 24
Intelligence 9 12
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 11 14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 3 22
Bluff 0 2
Concentration 8 30
Diplomacy 0 2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 2
Heal -1 0
Hide -1 0
Intimidate 0 26
Jump 4 13
Listen -1 0
Move Silently -1 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 4 25
Repair -1 1
Search -1 3
Spot -1 0
Swim 4 8
Tumble 3 4
Use Magic Device 4 25

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 10 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II


Level 14 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II


Level 19 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III

[wax_on_wax_off]

You'll kick yourself when Dwarven Defender PrE is released.

Otherwise, I'd take maximise instead of the second toughness (for quickened cures). I'd consider taking 2 rogue to be able to tank more often (when evasion is needed) and to be more useful in general (traps/sneak attack damage).

Cool build.

[maddmatt70]

You'll kick yourself when Dwarven Defender PrE is released.

Otherwise, I'd take maximise instead of the second toughness (for quickened cures). I'd consider taking 2 rogue to be able to tank more often (when evasion is needed) and to be more useful in general (traps/sneak attack damage).

Cool build.

I have to say all you need to do is to Lesser Reincarnate to 18 bard 2 fighter when Dwarven Defender comes out so do not understand what you are trying to say.

In regards to the second comments I disagree for starters this build is about hit points, DR, and songs and going with 2 rogue is going to reduce one or all of the three.

[maddmatt70]

to the OP: I would include Yugo pots in the hp total and make sure to have hp gear.. The goal would be 800 hp which although difficult is not beyond the realm of reason.

Edit: one thing to be concerned about is your intimidate score.. Human might be a better choice for that reason. Strive for a close to 80 intimidate for epic lob to go along with 800 hp and now we are talking. I was thinking about the hate as well but with brawn spirit 10%, Claw set, defender stance etc. your good.

[NovaNZ]

Ok so upgrading to Superior false life and adding Yugoloth pot:

self buff HP = 758
with Arti Energy infusion HP = 834

Nb - based on CON score of 36

MaddMatt70 - gear would include Brawn spirit, Claw set, etc as u mention.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I have to say all you need to do is to Lesser Reincarnate to 18 bard 2 fighter when Dwarven Defender comes out so do not understand what you are trying to say.

In regards to the second comments I disagree for starters this build is about hit points, DR, and songs and going with 2 rogue is going to reduce one or all of the three.

LR'ing 4 levels will set you back 2 million plat+ or $15 in the DDO store? Peanuts right?

Even with ideal gear this build will quite often be out-tanked by any moderately geared fighter/paladin/monk built for tanking and comparatively geared fighter/barbarian/paladin/monk/AC build. Getting a little more versatility in what you can tank (for instance by having evasion or being warforged) will greatly increase your opportunities to tank.


to the OP: I would include Yugo pots in the hp total and make sure to have hp gear.. The goal would be 800 hp which although difficult is not beyond the realm of reason.

Edit: one thing to be concerned about is your intimidate score.. Human might be a better choice for that reason. Strive for a close to 80 intimidate for epic lob to go along with 800 hp and now we are talking. I was thinking about the hate as well but with brawn spirit 10%, Claw set, defender stance etc. your good.

Yugo con pots reduce attack speed by 5% which equates to 5% less DPS/hate. Without racial hate I'm not sure that this build could afford that loss all the time.

Half-elf for double intim timers, human for eFang use (with dragonmarks) or warforged might all be better racial choices until dwarven defender comes out at least.

[NovaNZ]

Gidday Wax ...

Welcome back to DDO :)

Self-imposed racial restriction to DWARF.
Call it my personal rebellion against the masses :D or more prob my flavor fix!!

I am growing a pure Fighter DS tank build (credit to a build base by Slade) on another alt. Also Zongen Tohsti (see signature below) is rogue splash bard16.

[NovaNZ]

THF/S&B
HP 795 self buff; HP 875 with Arti buff.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Bard)
Hit Points: 448
Spell Points: 398
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 11
Will: 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 17 26
Dexterity 8 10
Constitution 20 26
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 8 10
Charisma 9 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 4
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 3 21
Bluff -1 1
Concentration 9 31
Diplomacy -1 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 1
Heal -1 0
Hide -1 0
Intimidate -1 20
Jump 5 13
Listen -1 0
Move Silently -1 0
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform 3 24
Repair -1 0
Search -1 2
Spot -1 0
Swim 3 8
Tumble 1 2
Use Magic Device 3 24

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 7 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I


Level 11 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness Swap out Extend, add GTHF.
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV


Level 19 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV