ALL of my Elven Chainmail has changed color since Update12!!!! [Archive]

Aelonwy

11-09-2011, 11:28 AM

I am most upset. I went out of my way to acquire some lovely elven chainmail my favourite color (blue-violet) to use as a crafting blank and since the update every single set of elven chainmail on my alt has been bleached to pale green except for the one that had a robe collar and it was bleached to pink.

Examples: This is what i purchased from a fellow player on the Thelanis Marketplace.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/558/bought.jpg

This is what she had when I logged on after the update today!!!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4771/turbinegoof.jpg

This makes me very, very sad. I know in the great scale of things this is rather unimportant but it was important to me. I just want a few questions answered.

1. Did anyone else experience this and is it limited to elven chainmail or were other basic armors affected?
2. Is there any hope that Turbine can and will fix this?
3. Why would this even happen? Maybe a silly question but I saw nothing in the release notes that would indicate they were doing anything with or to basic armor.
4. Is this bleaching or muting of the colors on basic armor a precurssor to the advent of armor dye and the subsequent sale thereof? I won't be quite as upset.... I just want my blue-violet color back. Also please have the dyes reasonably priced if they will be store only things.

Memnir

11-09-2011, 11:37 AM

This is the second instance I've read about armor changing color... hrm.

In_Like_Flynn

11-09-2011, 11:39 AM

I don't get it. How does the colour of your armour help you zerg quests? :p

Tolero

11-09-2011, 11:40 AM

3. Why would this even happen? Maybe a silly question but I saw nothing in the release notes that would indicate they were doing anything with or to basic armor.
4. Is this bleaching or muting of the colors on basic armor a precurssor to the advent of armor dye and the subsequent sale thereof? I won't be quite as upset.... I just want my blue-violet color back. Also please have the dyes reasonably priced if they will be store only things.

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (and if you got the armor from someone else - like AH, trade, or guild chest, please mention that too)

donblas

11-09-2011, 11:43 AM

Memnir

11-09-2011, 11:44 AM

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (I understand that if you got this armor off the auction house you may not know the answer to this)If they got it off the AH, then it could not have had a kit applied to it, yes? Since they bind, and all...

zeonardo

11-09-2011, 11:47 AM

GrinDrake

11-09-2011, 11:48 AM

Would this be tied to a lighting issue? I noticed my Duellist Leathers seem to be "brighter" as well. I did report that the stealthed mobs in the Vale were visible from afar and no longer hidden. Checked the undead and Mephits in Sands and they too are very visible.

Tolero

11-09-2011, 11:50 AM

If they got it off the AH, then it could not have had a kit applied to it, yes? Since they bind, and all...

i.e. if the armor came off the AH they won't know the history of that item necessarily, so they shouldn't feel bad answering "I don't know". But yeah I suppose that is confusing, so I should say - if you got the armor from somewhere else than your own pulls please specify.

GauArrowny

11-09-2011, 11:52 AM

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (I understand that if you got this armor off the auction house you may not know the answer to this)

I have the Crimson Chain fromt eh Lordsmarch questline. I have noticed when i logged in today, one should has a tinge of crimson while the rest is all grey/silver as if the crimson color was scraped off it. I have never used any cosmetics on it.

Wranth

11-09-2011, 11:53 AM

noticed this behavior on some mith breast plate also although in this instance it was an improvement....this armor has never had a kit on it

Avidus

11-09-2011, 11:56 AM

I will try to clear up what I see as a bit of confusion.

If they got it off the AH, then it could not have had a kit applied to it, yes? Since they bind, and all...

Using an armor kit will make the armor Bound To Account unless it was already Bound To Chracter, thus not allowing for it to be placed in the Auction House.

i.e. if the armor came off the AH they won't know the history of that item necessarily, so they shouldn't feel bad answering "I don't know". But yeah I suppose that is confusing, so I should say - if you got the armor from somewhere else than your own pulls please specify.

Using an armor kit remover will restore the armor to its previously unbound state(for non BtC armors), allowing it to be placed into the AH.

:)

donblas

11-09-2011, 12:01 PM

I got my armor from the AH, but would anyone buy an armor kit remover for DDO points in order to sell some armor for a few thousand plat?

I think it unlikely it ever had a kit applied and then removed in the past but obviously can't be 100% sure.

And toggling the armor did nothing.

Aelonwy

11-09-2011, 12:03 PM

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (I understand that if you got this armor off the auction house you may not know the answer to this)

To be as specific as possible:

This is my hagglebard she has in her personal inventory eight or nine elven chainmails and is wearing the best of the lot which i purchased from another player whom i got in touch with from the Thelanis Marketplace Forum.

Most of the elven chainmail in her inventory was the scale-style both the large (not pictured here) and small (pictured here) with one set that had the robe collar and one that looked splint style. All but two were violet/purple/greyish-purple (including the robe collared one) only the one I was wearing (pictured at top) and the splint-style were my favourite shade of violet. The remaining two were a vibrant sea green that kind-of appealed to me. I kept them in the hopes of eventually achieving a few sets the absolute right color on a pleasing or perfect style as posted in my thread on the Thelanis Market Forums.

Now every single one is bleached/muted to this pale green color except for the robe collared one which is now pale pink. I can post images of each as they appear now if that would help but didn't take pre-images of the others, only had a pre-image of this one to thank the player that sold it to me. (I might have a picture of the splint one from playing ...i'll look.)

Only one of these armors did I pick up myself in loot... all others were purchased from AH, vendor, or other players directly. None of them have had armor kits placed on them since they have been in my inventory, I cannot say what may have occured before they became mine.

Hope this helps. Tell me if you would like images of what they've all become.

Jondera

11-09-2011, 12:10 PM

I had the same thing happen with a suit of +4 mithral full plate. Random drop from a chest in Partycrashers, and I haven't done anything with it - no appearance kit, no crafting.

It was a nice red/black color scheme, and now it's flat grey. I tried the armor appearance toggle and relogging, but it didn't change anything.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/Jondera/Armorcolorcomparison.jpg

SilkofDrasnia

11-09-2011, 12:12 PM

might not be relevant but if u look at large shroud ingredients the icons background color has changed aswell looks like same color as the armor picks seen here, hmm not just shroud stuff either epic scrolls have changed color aswell

Aelonwy

11-09-2011, 12:15 PM

Really had my fingers crossed for the toggle bit, relogged just to see, but no.... just more sadness.

Hope Turbine gets this fixed or implements armor dyes soon.
Course if they implement dyes then this were to happen again they would have extremely unhappy customers.
*sigh*

Flavilandile

11-09-2011, 12:26 PM

i.e. if the armor came off the AH they won't know the history of that item necessarily, so they shouldn't feel bad answering "I don't know". But yeah I suppose that is confusing, so I should say - if you got the armor from somewhere else than your own pulls please specify.

And what about things that have changed color but where the origin is fully known ?
( example a plain robe I have sitting in bank that had specific colors... and was given to me [and the rest of the guildies present that day] by a GM. )

*grins*

katz

11-09-2011, 12:35 PM

uh oh. i'm gonna be sad panda if all my pretty armors changed colors when i get home from work today :(

zeraphel

11-09-2011, 12:40 PM

my armor an elfcrafted chain armor, obtained on gianthold by 20 elven relics (before it cost 10) also changed color from blue to that yellowish.

ive never applied a cosmetic kit, and its bound to character, attuned and with an alchemical armor defense

donblas

11-09-2011, 12:42 PM

GH Dragoncrafted plate which is BTC and has never had an appearance kit, and was a reddish brown overall, now has substantial steel elements, including the breast and back plates, and thigh plates and greaves, and upper and lower arm protection. :(

Mithral chain shirt had coppery/gold chain chest protection now has steel.

Adamantine full plate with red/maroon armour plates (neck, chest, upper and lower legs and upper and lower arms), has had these plates changed to plain steel

minyassa

11-09-2011, 01:39 PM

I have noticed three right off the bat (I am literally afraid to look through my inventory to see what other of my saved armors and robes have changed). When I signed on, they were the proper colors in the "gallery" for character selection, and then as soon as I logged them in the armor changed color. These were two purple adamantine full plates on two different toons, nearly identical except for the body color (same mesh style)--the purple turned to white on both of them. The other was a rich dark blue full plate (on a third toon) that, again, showed up normally in the character preview but when I logged in it had turned brown/tan. None of these armors have ever had kits. All three were random drops and none have ever had kits applied. I found the first two myself, the dark blue one was found for me by someone else (I did a lot of networking to get my hands on blue armor). Two are unbound. The dark blue one was bound by my applying enchantments to it in the crafting hall.

This is killing me. I play to RP with paper dolls, basically, and all my questing work is for the specific purpose of finding stuff that looks right for a particular character. Now I dread looking at my characters' RP dress 'closets'. Some of this stuff I've searched for, quested for and traded for since the beginning. I hope to gods that they will be able to fix this.

ericrd

11-09-2011, 01:42 PM

had the same armour for a year on a rarly played toon blue mithral plate now its gunmetal gray no armour kit and was random gen . i want my blue armour back!!

RedOrm

11-09-2011, 01:48 PM

I just now happened to look in my ingredients bag right after reading this thread, and noticed that almost all essences and other items in there have different back grounds that before; much lighter. Not something that bothers me in the slightest, just wanted to add it here as additional info. My Robe of Shadow still looks the same :)
All ingredients are straight from chests or from deconstructing, nothing was ever done to them.

katz

11-09-2011, 02:14 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IthFxaqzjOQ/TrrdkK59RRI/AAAAAAAABbY/4Eco6oYTlgk/s640/beforenafter.jpg

the difference is suble, but i want my green back.

random gen elven chainmail. i don't remember if i looted it or my husband did but it was NOT purchased or given to us. one of us looted it and i kept it because i liked how it looked.. stripped for crafting. added invulnerability shard. has never had an armor kit. is currently on a lvl 4 haggle bard

TimoteoDeLani

11-09-2011, 02:31 PM

One of my characters' armours has changed from a red tinge to plain steel.

Since the backgrounds of various ingredients has changed, it suggests to me that someone changed what particular colour references/indices/palette entries meant e.g. to change the background of an icon, and didn't consider that the colours were used elsewhere.

Trippy

11-09-2011, 03:39 PM

So, sad to see this bug show up yet again. I had a random loot Docent pre-FTP launch that changed colors every couple updates that I bug reported each time it happened. Sadly I sold it to make room in my bank before my TR so can't check to see what color it would be this time.

Bought it dark blue and over time it changed to Teal, Red and finally White.

Eladrin

11-09-2011, 03:44 PM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

zeonardo

11-09-2011, 03:59 PM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

Yay! Good luck on your hunt!
Hope all the players "feed-/rant-back" here helped.

minyassa

11-09-2011, 04:07 PM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

Good luck!!!!!!!! *crosses fingers, toes and eyes!*

Aelonwy

11-09-2011, 04:13 PM

Here's an example of a named armor that got bleached of color. Also the cross-belts on the Parasitic Breastplate are now a bright light tan instead of a dull purple-tinged brown.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7207/namedblooper1.jpg

MeliCat

11-09-2011, 04:32 PM

Likewise. Purplish Mithral full plate with a few gold patterns had a lot of its plates changed to steel.

It's crafted and has never had cosmetics.

Tried to report a bug in game but was directed to forums.

There is a bug on the in game bug reporting. I bugged this just then via the forums and received a PM stating this was a known issue - I thought that Maj said they were working on that?

Elixxer

11-09-2011, 04:35 PM

DOOOOOOOM!!!!!111! Turbine is sucking the color out of EVERYTHING :(

Besides my robes :). Anyways I am sorry to hear this is happening. I hope they fix this soon.

d1mitri

11-09-2011, 04:58 PM

Red Mithral Fullplate changed from red to steel. Toggling doesn't work. I think this one has dropped in chest and I didn't use armor kits on it either.

P.S. Oh yeah, customized it with cannith crafting some time ago.

donblas

11-09-2011, 05:10 PM

Well I have 30+ toons and so far all of them who have metal armor have had all color taken from the back and breast plates, upper and lower arm armor, greaves, and thigh armor, even GH crafted armors.

FeralKittie

11-09-2011, 05:14 PM

Some more examples I submitted in a bug report:
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll398/KuriousKat_photos/U12armorcolorbugbeforeafterexamples.jpg
No armor skins used on any of these

SickleYield

11-09-2011, 05:41 PM

Same issue here, although I don't have before/after screens. In my case the only robe affected was a Shadow Robe turning orange when it was all white previously, but I did have one uncrafted and one crafted full plate that were the same mesh in red and green both turn beige/steel. My warforged's light-up yellow docent also has had many parts of it turn brown.

Here's hoping it gets fixed. I'm a roleplayer and one of the ways I distinguish my characters from each other is with different-colored outfits.

Ulurjah

11-09-2011, 05:45 PM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

How does something like this happen by accident?

donblas

11-09-2011, 06:48 PM

My wife, too has said that all her toons with metal armor have had the colors changed to steel

NexEverto

11-09-2011, 07:20 PM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

Sorry! I didn't mean to mix the colors with the whites and add bleach to the wash in the Pre-U12 clean! I swear I wont do it again! Though... Some of those bleached and cross color stained armors look better... Hrm, maybe I'm not sorry. :p

S0rdmasta

11-09-2011, 08:03 PM

Glad to see the Devs are looking into this. I was decidedly unhappy about finding my bleached armor. Like many out there I spent countless hours and resources (including TP) on finding the armor and making the combo's I wanted and I seriously would like it back the way it was.

Anyway not here to rant so much as contribute to the bug hunt in any way I can. Just to confirm, the problem is not limited to elven chainmail. Ive had it effect light, medium and heavy armor of all kinds.. Including bound and unbound, named/random gen. None of the suits Ive had bleached were crafted apon. They are a mix of quest reward, AH purchased and player traded.

Elven chainmail & Steel Fullplate
http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii325/Supatard/DDO/halfbleached.png

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii325/Supatard/DDO/missplaced.png

There are more, and only the suits I liked of course :/ Please fix this one up guys. Good luck and thanks.

porq

11-09-2011, 10:41 PM

I've seen this bleaching before in past updates...I've usually thrown away the armors and picked up new ones instead. I've always understood the issue to be some unintended consequence that they either never knew about or didn't care enough to fix. Well, until now.

FranOhmsford

11-09-2011, 10:50 PM

Some more examples I submitted in a bug report:
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll398/KuriousKat_photos/U12armorcolorbugbeforeafterexamples.jpg
No armor skins used on any of these

Unchanged Ringleader!!!!!!

They mess with a bunch of armours but leave that G*dawful pink Codpiece in - Wow, just Wow!

woghd911

11-09-2011, 11:21 PM

Ok I have armor that has also changed color:

1. Level 18 fighter -- her favorite full plate was green now it is a yucky light yellowy steel. Her other full plates are bleached also.
2. Level 8 Paladin -- her full plate called Bloodplate was a beautiful red and now is an icky light grey. All her sets were bleached.
3. Level 9 FvS -- his studded leather was black and brown and now it looks like mud.

I didnt check 4 of my characters that wear some form of armor, but the ones that wear robes,outfits are not affected by a bleach job. My wizards, my sorc, my monk and my rogue are fine.

What is going on? Unbleach them now and fix them please. I am not pleased and with 14 characters, trust me I do spend many hours playing and many dollars for DDO points.

cdemeritt

11-09-2011, 11:21 PM

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (and if you got the armor from someone else - like AH, trade, or guild chest, please mention that too)

My basic Mithral Armor was:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae165/TomThumb_03/mith2.jpg

But is now:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae165/TomThumb_03/newarmor.jpg

Not Horrible, but it took me forever to find an armor skin I wanted with some color in it... I never had an armor kit on it, but did buy it from the AH...

TimoteoDeLani

11-10-2011, 12:24 AM

Argh! Just realised my dwarven battlerager's armour went from lovely spikey red to whitish. The time I spent looking for that specific armour ...

Here's hoping it's a simple cosmetic thing where a someone changed the values of existing things when they should have created new ones (if so, very lazy programming and very poor QA).

Flavilandile

11-10-2011, 01:17 AM

Looking into the color shiftiness. I have a promising lead to chase.

I don't know if it helps or not, but it may be linked with the new background color for all the ingredients.
That muddy brown instead of the purple.

And beside the robe mentioned earlier... that got changed a long time ago [ probably during transfer from Europe to here, along with a docent that seems to have changed at the same time ], I have other characters that have been hit by the armor bleaching.

TheDearLeader

11-10-2011, 02:23 AM

Epic Vambraces of Inner Light.

The "Green" parts are now Gray'ish.

Hey, I decided to make screenshots.
Before http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz36/Landar/DDo%20Screenshots/ScreenShot00063.jpg After http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz36/Landar/DDo%20Screenshots/ScreenShot00963.jpg

donblas

11-10-2011, 02:31 AM

I too was wondering if the bleaching was related to the change in ingredients' and essences' colors

Natashaelle

11-10-2011, 03:37 AM

This isn't intended behavior, but for investigation purposes: have you ever used cosmetic armors while wearing this armor at some point? (and if you got the armor from someone else - like AH, trade, or guild chest, please mention that too)

At least one Mith FP on at least one of my toons has colour shifted from blood red to grey ; and no, I haven't ever used any armour kits on that toon nor on that armour.

Alabore

11-10-2011, 03:47 AM

1. Did anyone else experience this and is it limited to elven chainmail or were other basic armors affected?

I noticed the same on my tempest's elven mail.
Same blue hue, same colour bug.

...

Talk about update blues...

:rolleyes:

Phemt81

11-10-2011, 06:17 AM

Looks like fashion matter, don't let the ladies go mad!

katz

11-10-2011, 06:30 AM

before it didn't matter as much, but now, with crafting, you can take that piece of random armor you really liked the look of and take off the lame enhancements and put stuff on it that's really worth something. gives the armor alot more value. you're actually wearing it, instead of it just sitting in inventory for when you want to look good for a screenshot... or even just being sold. hence more of a reaction when the colors went away. ^_^

Phemt81

11-10-2011, 07:32 AM

Yes katz, i thought about that. So i am by your side.

I am always by the girls side :D

Looks like fashion matter, don't let the ladies go mad!

Hope this was not neg repped for the word "ladies" :eek:

;)

FuzzyDuck81

11-10-2011, 07:41 AM

donblas

11-10-2011, 08:04 AM

Unequipping and re-equipping my armor seems to have no effect

katz

11-10-2011, 08:09 AM

I've noticed some of these too.. its most noticeable on my arty, his quorforged docent keeps showing up as light brown leather, instead of the bubblegum pink of pure fabulousness - seems to fix once i take it off & stick it bcak on again though.

i've had this issue for months on my tukaw build. no docent keeps its color on her. everything turns tan... but like you, unequipping and reequipping fixes it. was weird. happened to every docent i put on her. i just dealt with it.

donfilibuster

11-10-2011, 08:12 AM

I can't replace my favourite green colored armor because it spent on an armor kit for it.
The choice is important because you pick an armor to be long lasting and craftable.
The kit is mostly for fun, kits are fancy and mine was the one that shows a bit of skin while the mail looks neat for serious adventuring.

A side problem is that this is the *third* time i have an issue with cosmetic gear i purchase, but that'd be off topic and all been fixed.
It's not that we would not buy kits if there's nice regular armor, i did got the kits then had em not working as intended.

These bleaching and messed coloring issues also prove the existing armor is capable of recoloring, including the kits themselves.
I'd bump on the old request of being able to customize your armor, after all it is a matter of enamel ;)

joaofalcao

11-10-2011, 08:17 AM

I didnt have time to read it all, so forgive if isnt new.

Did anybody mention the swashbuckler? It shrunk. Looks like a frigging wristwatch.

If nobody mentioned, well, here it is.

Elixxer

11-10-2011, 08:45 AM

smatt

11-10-2011, 08:47 AM

I'm seeing all kinds of FUGLY brown every where.. On various armor/robe pieces... All my ingredients that go into bags changed colors etc...

QA at it's best! :eek::D

The tranformation of DDO-EU to DDO-EU-ME is near on complete! All shall rejoice!!!!!!!!! :o

katz

11-10-2011, 08:52 AM

I didnt have time to read it all, so forgive if isnt new.

Did anybody mention the swashbuckler? It shrunk. Looks like a frigging wristwatch.

If nobody mentioned, well, here it is.

this thread has been discussing armor color changes. swashbuckler has been discussed HERE (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4163527#post4163527)

Septimus

11-10-2011, 10:26 AM

Just having looked at one of my characters, I have two sets of full plate of the same design, one used to be blue, they're now both the same white enamel. These were either random loot drops or came from the auction house

Also one set of chainmail that used to have a red sash, that is now a white one. This was definately a random loot drop item.

No appearance kits have been used on these.

Do you think this is a sneak preview of update 13, Stormreach Noir? ;)

GrinDrake

11-10-2011, 12:36 PM

Do you think this is a sneak preview of update 13, Stormreach Noir? ;)

Welcome to Stormbleach.

Aelonwy

11-10-2011, 01:32 PM

Welcome to Stormbleach.

Funny. Really, truly funny... yet I'm still sad about loosing my favorite color on my armors. Oh well +1 to you for almost cheering me up... a little.

FeralKittie

11-10-2011, 01:44 PM

Unchanged Ringleader!!!!!!

They mess with a bunch of armours but leave that G*dawful pink Codpiece in - Wow, just Wow!

Lol, kinda what I was thinking. Who knew bugs had a sense of humor? ...A cruel, cruel sense of humor. :rolleyes:

Lerl

11-10-2011, 02:20 PM

I also have bleached armors. Mostly bought through House K, a couple off the AH, the rest loot pulls. No armor kits used. All the great blues, reds, burgundys and greens are now grey. This is multiple alts on different servers.

TheDearLeader

11-10-2011, 04:23 PM

The dude got sideburns! :D

I'd LRed since the first picture was taken. I went for some serious 'burn action upon doing so.

I'm not even necessarily upset about the changes to the Vambraces - just thought I'd add it to the list, since it was seemingly unintentional.

auntjobiska

11-10-2011, 04:29 PM

Just to add to the list

Calamity's carapace used to be hideous purple, is now hideous grey brown (on a bank toon to save him being naked!)

Two +5 mithral breastplates gone from purple to steel

Argenti's armor has gone from menacing looking dark to bright silver. Which is really sad cos my cleric looked rather cool in the dark version

AJ

silvermesh

11-10-2011, 05:05 PM

I really don't see this as a "color shift" so much as the gear(outer layer) on just about all random gen armors I own(as well as most everyone running around I see..) got set to the default color scheme instead of whatever scheme they had before. a color shift implies they were "dyed" before hand but we've been told in the past that armor dyes won't happen because they use separate hand drawn skins for each color scheme. the under layers are untouched(making a few of my armors look really weird and mismatched). what makes me curious more is whether this is actually a bug on the items themselves or on how the client views ALL armor. I see nearly everyone in dull drab armor where previously id be seeing a LOT of color around banks and auction houses.

edit: then again as has been posted, they seem to display just fine before logging in and updating the equipment to the character select screen. curious.

Aelonwy

11-10-2011, 08:34 PM

a color shift implies they were "dyed" before hand but we've been told in the past that armor dyes won't happen because they use separate hand drawn skins for each color scheme. the under layers are untouched(making a few of my armors look really weird and mismatched). what makes me curious more is whether this is actually a bug on the items themselves or on how the client views ALL armor.

I'm not sure I was following what you were saying there... are you telling me that every individual armor overskin is sort of handpainted instead of a program saying this is section A, section B and section C of the overskin XYZ and filling each section in with a random color?

Because if thats approximately what you are saying I don't know if that raises or lowers my respect of the graphic artists responsible for our basic armor artwork. On the one hand thats alot of effort and attention to detail... on the other hand are they colorblind? cause I pick up about 1 in 10 armors that actually look halfway decent and only 1 in 50 that are really worth keeping. Seriously, who wears olive or army green with purple? eye-smarting yellow with fushia? orange and brown? puke-yellow and pink? bright scarlet with olive? these are some of the color combos I've picked up in just the past two weeks.

woghd911

11-10-2011, 09:21 PM

Doesnt matter if I take off the armor, reput it on, log in or out, the armor is still yucky tan/brown color.

I have purchased no Armor Kits for these armors, most were in chests or bought on Auction.

Phemt81

11-10-2011, 09:55 PM

this thread has been discussing armor color changes. swashbuckler has been discussed HERE (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4163527#post4163527)

She is so informed and contributive *_*

Jondera

11-11-2011, 12:52 AM

Well, I can now confirm that freshly dropped armors are not bleached.

Pulled a mithral breastplate off an end reward list a little while ago with a dark teal color.

donblas

11-11-2011, 05:37 AM

GH Giantcrafted armor had lots or dark or black bits, now plain steel or rusty looking.

Aelonwy

11-11-2011, 09:47 AM

Well, I can now confirm that freshly dropped armors are not bleached.

Pulled a mithral breastplate off an end reward list a little while ago with a dark teal color.

Oh...... that does not sound encouraging...... if freshly spawned armor is not affected by whatever bug bleached our previous armors then its not as simple as a color code getting switched off or altered........*sigh* more saddness.

Caliban

11-11-2011, 09:55 AM

Hmm... I have actually had this affecting my Quorforged Docent of Battle on my warforged monk for the last couple of months.

It happened after I applied a temporary armor kit, once I left the store the cosmetic appearance was gone, but now the docent showed up as white instead of green whenever I toggled the armor kit on.

I actually prefer the white appearance, hopefully it won't go away when they fix everyone elses. :(

Arysta

11-11-2011, 10:34 AM

Well, I'm happy to know I haven't lost my mind..

+3 Adamantine full plate that was steel and purple colored (Also had spikes on the shoulders), is now all steel colored and the spikes are gone. I've used this armor on various chars for two years, so I know it has never had an armor kit applied to it.

Also noticed that a Outfit of Light Fortification is missing the blue accents it had and is now all white. I haven't used it in ages, though, so I'm not sure if it was the most recent update that changed it or one before. this one has also been in my inventory since before armor kits existed.

donblas

11-11-2011, 12:01 PM

Mithral breastplate had lots of cool purple/blue which has all changed to pink. At least it's not steel or white I suppose.

minyassa

11-11-2011, 10:37 PM

So far all my new full plate armor drops have been colorless, either gray/silver metal or that mottled tan/brown.

lazylaz

11-11-2011, 11:54 PM

I just noticed this thread and had to check through my guys and girls.

My elf chain suits have also been bleached a bit and my mithral plate suits have had colour changes. Though one of them looks better than it did.

edit: two of them look better.

And I just checked a couple of pairs of scale arour my barb wore when he was young and still has vaulted. Colour-changed also (and also looks better!)

No armour change kits or anything done them.

Alabore

11-12-2011, 07:08 AM

Confirming issue.
Not just mithral armour.
Reporting bleaching also with some adamantine plate and leather.

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Some suits were unaffected.
Some turned bone white.

Terebinthia

11-12-2011, 06:33 PM

Give me back my old Resonant Guard Suit! Black and purple was sexy and had a little bit of an Emma Peel in the Avengers vibe. Brown and gold does not cut it!!!!

I has a sad :(

Yan_PL

11-12-2011, 08:53 PM

Armors were changing colors pre-u12 when "armor kit visibility" was toggled on/off. This looks for me like something as silly as hat visibility bug.

donfilibuster

11-12-2011, 10:14 PM

Problem with these color bugs is that it comes with the newly downloaded files so everyone is forced to wait till patch day to deliver new files.
At least eladrin said they have a lead so hopefully won't take till u13.

But more importantly, the water system of stormreach must be checked for corrosive substances.

Alabore

11-13-2011, 07:25 AM

But more importantly, the water system of stormreach must be checked for corrosive substances.

And armours should have a tag reading "colours might run, wash separately with pure water only, no tumbling or fighting with rust monsters, oozes and slimes".

;)

Maleth

11-13-2011, 07:27 PM

And what about things that have changed color but where the origin is fully known ?
( example a plain robe I have sitting in bank that had specific colors... and was given to me [and the rest of the guildies present that day] by a GM. )

*grins*

Just adding more info:
I had admantium FP that had blue highlights go whitish on me when I logged into him after U12. Thinking I was going insane, I looked at my alt that I have not logged into for quite a while on the char pick screen who happened to be wearing Plate Armor of the Deep. We all know PAOTD is always blue, right? It showed as blue in the char pic screen, logged into the character and it was white...logged back out to character screen and it was showing white there now.

I have to admit I think the white PAOTD looks pretty cool as white, but I want my blue adamantium plate back.

http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss72/Kiltedwolf/ScreenShot00475.jpg

donfilibuster

11-13-2011, 09:10 PM

I have to admit I think the white PAOTD looks pretty cool as white, but I want my blue adamantium plate back.

Yes, please. Since polished plate is nice on their own right, if this leads to having shiny armor let this be only after the issues are fixed.

LrdSlvrhnd

11-13-2011, 10:31 PM

Well, I apologize to everyone at whom I mentally laughed while they were complaining... 'cause I just noticed this happened to me.

When I started crafting, I spent a small fortune buying up mithral breastplate until I saw one I liked for my ranger... it had nice dark red metal bits... which are now a dull grey. Turbine, give me my red armor back!

BossOfEarth

11-13-2011, 11:38 PM

ME TOO.

I had a GREEN mithral full plate that I liked so much I crafted it. And now it's bleached too.

I bought it from the Auction House.
I deconstructed it.
I applyed a +4 bound shard that I crafted myself.
I made a my.ddo blog post about how happy I was to have a GREEN snake themed Full Plate.
Now, I am sad.

Aelonwy

11-14-2011, 12:36 PM

Any word on this devs? MajMal? anyone? please?

teh_meh

11-14-2011, 12:53 PM

do we really need a 5 page thread about elven chainmail?

Backley

11-14-2011, 01:13 PM

do we really need a 5 page thread about elven chainmail?

Yes, and the title is inaccurate: many types of armor are affected. Without this thread we wouldn't know the extent of the damage.

Edit: I want the purple back in my Cannith-crafted Mithral Fullplate

macubrae

11-14-2011, 02:06 PM

This bothers me for one reason only. I don't care what color my armor is and it wouldn't bother me in the least, but I game side by side with my wife. It bothers her alot... I know, because she mentions it every day. She paid rediculous amounts of plat(IMO) for the perfect color armor. They are her toons and if making them pretty makes her happy, then by all means I'll support her(that and she's usually my healer). She doesn't play helves because of this. This bleaching may not be a priority, but to a niche group it's just one more problem that shows the devs don't care. I probably would have never noticed, but some people did, and those are the 80 or so posters on this thread and hundreds of others that never look at the forums. You'll never know which straw breaks the camels back until it's too late. My 2 CP's.

Alabore

11-14-2011, 07:18 PM

You'll never know which straw breaks the camels back until it's too late.

I want to see the bright side in this.
They could introduce an item-based dyeing system, so we can customise armour without resorting to store-specific skins...

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Yeah, sure...

:rolleyes:

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Ok, now I'm serious.
Promise.
SOME suits look better to me, now.
I used to hold onto some oddly coloured suits of adamantine plate, and they look nicer now, in greys, without the garish, clashing, hues.

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Bleached leathers look so so; my blonde halfling bard used to wear red leather, and she was lovely in it.
And my elven tempest lost some of his spunk without his sky blue mail.

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Will they be able to revert these changes anyway?
Did they break how textures worked?
Or did something somehow erase gear database information?

:confused:

BossOfEarth

11-14-2011, 08:49 PM

** Post U12: update1 **

My (FORMERLY GREEN) mithral full plate is still bleached.
I toggled the custom armor and logged in and out a few times.
I previewed several suits of armor (Cannith 2 Cyan is my favorite, part from my formerly green mithral full plate.)

Looking forward to a fix, pronto! :)

Talon_Moonshadow

11-15-2011, 06:46 AM

Well, my Crimson Chain is no longer Crimson. :(

minyassa

11-15-2011, 09:29 PM

May we please have a word from devs about that promising lead or other possible hopefuls? It would help with morale. I'm on the same page as the wife of the fellow a few posts up...this bothers me every day. Just a quickie update on the ongoing search, or "we'll fix it in the patch" or something would help immensely. Thanks!

Tajuh

11-15-2011, 11:10 PM

Even my Bloodplate got the treatment.:( Seriously devs, with this and the absolutely massive hole that was opened, you may have messed up the game along the level of handwrap code.

Aelonwy

11-17-2011, 08:21 AM

Update please devs? Will this be fixed?

Eladrin

11-17-2011, 02:38 PM

Update please devs? Will this be fixed?
Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

Captain_Wizbang

11-17-2011, 03:11 PM

All the armor that was in my backpack & normal bank slots have same issue.

However, the items that were in the TR remove only bank are normal colored.

Thanks for the update Eladrin.

katz

11-17-2011, 03:51 PM

yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

yay~!!!! :D

minyassa

11-17-2011, 08:54 PM

Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

Oh my gosh. You would not believe the immense relief it was to see this. You made my whole day, Eladrin. Thank you very much for the update.

Aelonwy

11-18-2011, 07:57 AM

Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Arlathen

11-18-2011, 09:17 AM

Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

Thanks Eladrin.

Umm, when though? U12 Patch1? Or SoonTM? :rolleyes:

macubrae

11-18-2011, 01:36 PM

Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

So... next week, month, update, right after druids? You did know this question was coming, right?

Thank you for the response, many players will be looking forward to it.

BossOfEarth

11-18-2011, 08:11 PM

Yes, it will be fixed. You'll have your colors back.

My fellow players,

Earlier this morning under cover of darkness an elite team of cheerleaders lead by Eladrin infiltrated a hidden compound and motivated a fat and lazy hamster. A hamster totaly bereft of team spirit. A hamster lacking in attitudes of both the win-win and can-do varietys. A hamster who for so long had failed to uphold his sworn duty to protect and maintain the garish colors that adorn the chain shirts, breastplates, and codpieces of the true heros: me, and my fellow players.

And now, as we congradluate Eladrin and look forward to regaining our diverse spectrum of colored armor let us retain the unity with which we showed in our complaints in pages 1-5 of this thread.

Joseph

11-25-2011, 11:36 AM

My wife had a set of (garish) pink / fuchsia +5 MFP I bought her last summer for a huge amount of plat (as she liked the color). It actually has a very cool armor pattern as well - but now it is just normal colored (though it shows on the character select screen at login as being pink still).

Thanks for the update Eladrin that it will be fixed (although, now that she has discovered armor kits, we'll have to see if she keeps it or changes it up).

TimoteoDeLani

12-07-2011, 11:00 PM

Woohoo! Fixed in U12.1. The character selection screen will still show bleached armour until you've logged into the character.

donfilibuster

12-07-2011, 11:33 PM

Thanks devs on this one. For a moment my rgb senses tingled but screenshots proved pixel by pixel that all is now back to normal.

ferrite

12-08-2011, 04:36 AM

Check your armor appearance toggle on the character inventory.

It happens to me on my Gianthold Relic Crafted docents. They change color on toggle on/off the armor appearance, eventhough I don't use armor kits on those.

Here's the Elfcrafted Docent from Gianthold, no armor kits on it ever.

Toggle OFF: Correct color.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8852/silver1o.jpg

Toggle ON: Wrong Color
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3666/silver2z.jpg

Turn ON, log out and it will show up wrong on the character selection, but will be correct in game. Then turn OFF and ON again to put on the wrong color.

Got it?

Hey Tolero! Here's one armor you can easily track!

Actually the Elfcrafted Docent armor is supposed to be Royal Blue. Somehow it got changed to this hideous black/silver combination.

Come to think of it all this armor bleaching started happening when those cosmetic armor kits were released last year in update 8. I submitted a bug report on it a year ago, but nothing came of it. I didn't pursue it further as I honestly thought they were making gear ugly to get us to buy the kits. But good to see this issue will finally get the attention it deserves.

Looks like Elfcrafted Docent didnt get fixed this go round, its still black/silver toggle as of 12.1, after logging in/out with it. And being BTC it never was on the AH.

Alabore

12-08-2011, 07:03 AM

I honestly thought they were making gear ugly to get us to buy the kits.

Armour losing its dye did unsettle me a tiny little bit.
It was worse on elven chain, since my chars worse it mostly for cosmetic reasons.
On some plate suits the bug actually made up for some awkward colour schemes.
Glad they fixed it though.

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I'll admit I am no fan of store kits.
Please bear with me for being so cheap, but I earnestly feel they are overpriced, given their one-shot nature.
Speaking of ugly, I still like randomly generated gear over most kits.
Some look very random and clashing.

Aelonwy

12-08-2011, 09:39 AM

Huzzah. I am immensely grateful they fixed this.... so much so I started a dev appreciation thread yesterday with my thanks specifically on this issue.

TimoteoDeLani

12-08-2011, 01:05 PM

Huzzah. I am immensely grateful they fixed this.... so much so I started a dev appreciation thread yesterday with my thanks specifically on this issue.

Having seen the trouble you went to to get the armour you wanted, I'm not surprised.

I'm constantly buying and reselling armour on the AH, looking for the "perfect" suit. It's been pretty tricky the last while - I've had to store quite a few suits until I could see what colour combos they were.