Cookies that Give 4.5 mil XP?

[teh_meh]

Since the can of worms has been opened on pay-to-win (+3 tomes in stores) and since U12 includes pez dispensors for rare epic scrolls, let's just fast forward to the inevitable end game of this all please.

TR'ing is "too grindy". I'd like DDO store cookies that I can om nom nom for 4.5 million XP per nom. I don't want to actually play the low level stuff, just want the XP Will pay any price and will take 42 of them please. Thank you.

Also, the following epic shards are "too grindy" and would like pez dispensors for them as well please:

- ring of spell storing
- sword of shadows

And cleansing stone from shroud is "too grindy". Running 20 shrouds is just lame at this point. It's only fair those are in the DDO store too.

+4 tomes...yep..."too grindy". Let's get cracking on getting those uploaded to the store.

Actually, logging into the game is kinda grindy as well. Can we do something about that as well?

Man, typing this out sure was grindy. Does the DDO store sell hand lotion?

[Geonis]

I seriously doubt you don't already have plenty of hand lotion. :rolleyes:

[teh_meh]

I seriously doubt you don't already have plenty of hand lotion. :rolleyes:

just the generic stuff. I'd prefer some some official Stormreach stuff. Cause the best lotion is the lotion that you pay for.

[Qaliya]

Clearly stating what you'd like would be a lot more productive than sarcastic speculation.

[Miow]

I seriously doubt you don't already have plenty of hand lotion. :rolleyes:

LOL burrrrrrrrnnnn!

[somenewnoob]

LOL burrrrrrrrnnnn!

That was pretty effing funny!

[Fallout]

I seriously doubt you don't already have plenty of hand lotion. :rolleyes:

Good for exercise.

From all that typing.

[ericrd]

u12 has free epic scrolls? thought it was a 3 to 1 exchange only without the seals and shards, and since it was never that hard to get scrolls in the first place not sure how p2w this is

[Mellkor]

I am all for it, as long as these cookies dont cost more than 200 TP's.

[zeonardo]

u12 has free epic scrolls? thought it was a 3 to 1 exchange only without the seals and shards, and since it was never that hard to get scrolls in the first place not sure how p2w this is

Pay 3 scrolls, win 1 scroll. You're right. It's not p2w its p3w1 or just p3w!

I lol'd!

[der_kluge]

Wow. Hyperbolic much?

[teh_meh]

Clearly stating what you'd like would be a lot more productive than sarcastic speculation.

I am not being sarcastic. I am seriously asking for all this stuff.

I am following established forum protocol for getting things changed around here: crying about how stuff is too hard and throwing the term "too grindy" out liberally...even though games like this are grind by nature and removing grind from this MMO makes about as much sense as taking guns out of a first person shooter.

[In_Like_Flynn]

One more thing that the DDO Store could put up for sale is A Clue. A lot of players could use one. Make it inexpensive too, please.

[Zirun]

I am not being sarcastic. I am seriously asking for all this stuff.

I am following established forum protocol for getting things changed around here: crying about how stuff is too hard and throwing the term "too grindy" out liberally...even though games like this are grind by nature and removing grind from this MMO makes about as much sense as taking guns out of a first person shooter.

Facility
Fists only
No body armor

gogogogogogo

[Socio]

removing grind from this MMO makes about as much sense as taking guns out of a first person shooter.

Eh I prefer knifing over shooting anyways :3

[Qezuzu]

Honestly, kudos to Turbine for removing some grind aspects of the game. But they're no where near as much as an easy button or pay to win as you're suggesting. Not even in the same galaxy.

The scroll trade is not pay to win the mere fact that there's no paying to Turbine involved. It does make it seem like rare scrolls will appear like rain, but you still have to be capable enough to run epic sands quests. It doesn't matter if you think it's too easy, the desert scroll system was horrendously broken and this is a great change.

I disagree with selling +3 tomes in the store, but in reality the bonuses they provide are very small, or nonexistent if you have an even score with a +2. Plus, they're expensive. Only people who think +20 HP, +1 to DC's/attack/damage/saves/skills/etc. is worth $25 would buy them. The power between a toon that bought +3 tomes and one that only has +2 is very, very small. I don't like the fact thar they're selling them, though.

[Alavatar]

Facility
Fists only
No body armor

gogogogogogo

I hope I am not the only one that lol'd to this. :D

[munificence]

I guess jumping to conclusions and crying d0000oooo00000oooom isn't too grindy...

[Qaliya]

I am not being sarcastic. I am seriously asking for all this stuff.

Riiiight.

This entire rant makes absolutely no sense.

The "winning" in DDO is accomplishing things, and "paying to win" means buying things that save time so you can accomplish things. The DDO store is overloaded with items that allow you to save time. Hand-picking a couple of items to complain about and then sarcastically extrapolating them into ridiculous ideas is.. lame.

And childish. Why don't you try actually making a rational point?

Tell us what you do and do not want in the DDO store. And if the answer is "nothing" and "everything", tell us how Turbine is supposed to make any money at this.

[KajaGrae]

Facility
Fists only
No body armor

gogogogogogo

License to Kill.
I get Oddjob.

[Lifespawn]

Honestly, kudos to Turbine for removing some grind aspects of the game. But they're no where near as much as an easy button or pay to win as you're suggesting. Not even in the same galaxy.

The scroll trade is not pay to win the mere fact that there's no paying to Turbine involved. It does make it seem like rare scrolls will appear like rain, but you still have to be capable enough to run epic sands quests. It doesn't matter if you think it's too easy, the desert scroll system was horrendously broken and this is a great change.

I disagree with selling +3 tomes in the store, but in reality the bonuses they provide are very small, or nonexistent if you have an even score with a +2. Plus, they're expensive. Only people who think +20 HP, +1 to DC's/attack/damage/saves/skills/etc. is worth $25 would buy them. The power between a toon that bought +3 tomes and one that only has +2 is very, very small. I don't like the fact thar they're selling them, though.


+3 tomes will be dropping in regular chests tomorrow



@ op desert scrolls were stupid expensive and very diluted the only people upset over this change are the people that liked to screw people over in outrageous trades.

[Elixxer]

Since the can of worms has been opened on pay-to-win (+3 tomes in stores) and since U12 includes pez dispensors for rare epic scrolls, let's just fast forward to the inevitable end game of this all please.

TR'ing is "too grindy". I'd like DDO store cookies that I can om nom nom for 4.5 million XP per nom. I don't want to actually play the low level stuff, just want the XP Will pay any price and will take 42 of them please. Thank you.

Also, the following epic shards are "too grindy" and would like pez dispensors for them as well please:

- ring of spell storing
- sword of shadows

And cleansing stone from shroud is "too grindy". Running 20 shrouds is just lame at this point. It's only fair those are in the DDO store too.

+4 tomes...yep..."too grindy". Let's get cracking on getting those uploaded to the store.

Actually, logging into the game is kinda grindy as well. Can we do something about that as well?

Man, typing this out sure was grindy. Does the DDO store sell hand lotion?


Someone is overreacting or I am failing rolls today.

[Vordax]

Actually, logging into the game is kinda grindy as well. Can we do something about that as well?

Man, typing this out sure was grindy. Does the DDO store sell hand lotion?


I think the MMO Progress Quest (http://progressquest.com/) may be exactly what your looking for! :D

Vordax

[Krelar]

One more thing that the DDO Store could put up for sale is A Clue. A lot of players could use one. Make it inexpensive too, please.

So those lfms that say "have a clue" will now say "link clue" instead? ;)

[wolfy42]

While there certainly have not been cookies that give 4.5 mill exp sold in the store, there have been xp pots/jewels of fortune etc for a very long time...which certainly can translate to a significant amount of experience if used right.

You don't need to buy ANYTHING in the DDO store to "win"......but buying things from the store can make the journey faster and easier. If they sold +4 tomes at the DDO store and they were unavailable at all in the game normally....that would be paying to win.

If you can only get advantages in the DDO store that you can get in game (although it may require a large time investment), then you are just paying to save time or for convenience.

So far I have not seen anything sold in the DDO store on a consistent basis (not short specials etc) that you can't get quickly in game...at least as far as items. Anyone can make enough plat from scratch as a brand new character in a few days to be able to buy a +2 tome (just sell all your greater essenses you get from harbor/marketplace quests and you'll have a +2 tome by level 7....maybe even 2!).

I agree selling +3 tomes is going a bit far...but that is not something that is currently available and I don't think it's being implemented as a constant store item in the near future.

As far as paying for Vet Status or 32 point builds etc. I object more to the fact that you have to pay for something you'll get for free if you actually play the game any length of time...then to the fact your paying to win. Players buy Vet status all the time but 1000 favor is freaking cake to get. Heck people even buy Drow!!! If you even bother to play the game a month you should get both easily. As far as 32 point builds, I think they should have just become the norm instead of making new players have to pay to have a similar base as 95% of the player base. Starting with 28 point builds made sense when the game was first released and for the first few years, but once a majority of players had 32 point builds....I think everyone should just start that way. The whole reward for 2500 favor should have been revamped (possibly to a +3 tome alone).

As it is older players have tons of advantages over new players even without factoring in Vet status, 32 point builds, past lives etc. It's gotten to a point where a new character specialized in combat as say a barbarian...can not compete with a melee based wizard who doesn't use spells at all but has past lives, tweaked equipment and tomes they gobble up at the min level.

So no, the game is certainly not PtW....or even close. Most of the advantages you can get from the store are not a factor to long term DDO players. You don't need to "buy" +2 tomes at all. The weapons sold are a joke for anyone besides a total new player. Vet status/32 point builds etc are all a huge money sink since you can get them easily through normal questing on your way up.

I do not think +3 tomes should be offered in the DDO store...but the cost was pretty steep and it was only available for a short time. As long as it does not become a permanent option I don't think it'll make a big impact.

[mournbladereigns]

Since the can of worms has been opened on pay-to-win (+3 tomes in stores) and since U12 includes pez dispensors for rare epic scrolls, let's just fast forward to the inevitable end game of this all please.

TR'ing is "too grindy". I'd like DDO store cookies that I can om nom nom for 4.5 million XP per nom. I don't want to actually play the low level stuff, just want the XP Will pay any price and will take 42 of them please. Thank you.

Also, the following epic shards are "too grindy" and would like pez dispensors for them as well please:

- ring of spell storing
- sword of shadows

And cleansing stone from shroud is "too grindy". Running 20 shrouds is just lame at this point. It's only fair those are in the DDO store too.

+4 tomes...yep..."too grindy". Let's get cracking on getting those uploaded to the store.

Actually, logging into the game is kinda grindy as well. Can we do something about that as well?

Man, typing this out sure was grindy. Does the DDO store sell hand lotion?

Actually, I like playing the low level stuff, its the last 5 or so levels that really grindy, so 2.5 million xp cookie plox.

Also, I want to buy the epic item outright, not al a carte.

I'm looking forward to being able to buy a totally Epic'd out completionist toon soon, so I can log on and laugh at n00bz that can't handle epics. Which I'll be able to do easily now, wootz!

and stop touching yourself!

[mournbladereigns]

So those lfms that say "have a clue" will now say "link clue" instead? ;)

It was Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with an Epic Sword of Shadows! (which he bought in the store!)

[elraido]

I am not being sarcastic. I am seriously asking for all this stuff.

I am following established forum protocol for getting things changed around here: crying about how stuff is too hard and throwing the term "too grindy" out liberally...even though games like this are grind by nature and removing grind from this MMO makes about as much sense as taking guns out of a first person shooter.

Grind shouldn't be in this game...it said so on the box. The grind is what is ruining this game for a lot of vets who started playing from launch. It was when the Vale was released that the grind started...and it has only become more and more intense as time goes on. Some of us don't like it.

[TEcarson]

then even my "has only run a handful of epics" char must be super duper uber.

[teh_meh]

Also, I want to buy the epic item outright, not al a carte.

I'm looking forward to being able to buy a totally Epic'd out completionist toon soon, so I can log on and laugh at n00bz that can't handle epics. Which I'll be able to do easily now, wootz!

and stop touching yourself!

dude, you are now my new favorite forum dude who I don't know. epic response. +1

and if you're ever in a jam for some lotion dude...and the DDO store is down for maintenance...I'll Fed-Ex ya some of mine

[countfitz]

Agreeing with a post a couple posts up. If you could ONLY get these things in the store, yeah, p2w, but since they drop (I've looted astral diamonds and xp pots and, tomorrow, hope to see some +3 tomes) it's not (IMO). The only thing they promised, and which we don't have in game but ONLY in store, which they are "kinda" giving us tomorrow, are armor kits. They did promise armor kits would drop and be able to be bought/sold in the AH, and yet, nada.

Otherwise, everything in the store can be found in game (as far as I know the only exception is armor kits, if there are more please inform).

So really, you're "paying to win faster than if you didn't pay" because you have more money than time. Which is fair, because I'm a teacher, and I have..., oh, right, I have neither :(

[Vormaerin]

It was when the Vale was released that the grind started...and it has only become more and more intense as time goes on. Some of us don't like it.

*laughs* You can't seriously believe that, can you? Ransacking chests for loot and grinding out favor were in the game long before the Vale. If you think the Vale is a grind, you obviously weren't running the raids prior to that, trying to get that one piece of Titan loot you wanted before they had the 20 completion list.

[Chai]

Anyone who calls DDO a grind game needs to play EQ1. They will be begging to come back to the "grind" that is DDO, heh.

[LordMond63]

Facility
Fists only
No body armor

gogogogogogo

Two men enter; one man leave.

[LordMond63]

Anyone who calls DDO a grind game needs to play EQ1. They will be begging to come back to the "grind" that is DDO, heh.

That's just it, chai.

Someone who thinks that DDO is an insufferable grind could not have played the original EQ because they would not make such a comparison if they had. A group of six sitting at one spawn point for, oh, six hours, fighting the same mobs over and over and over again, knowing that there was a waiting list- yep, the group leader typically had a list of players who wanted to take the place of someone who left- and knowing that there really was no other way to earn experience....now THAT'S a grind. I enjoyed the game because, really, it was the first of it's kind for me (although I had played NWN on AOL) and the novelty of it blinded me to the game's flaws. But capping a character on EQ is like capping multiple characters in DDO. The difference in time investment is staggering.

But let's not forget that the trend in MMOs is to make the early- and mid-game pass as quickly as possible so as to get the players to a point where they can enjoy the end game, which is where developers seem to focus the majority of their efforts. Once your game passes the three to five mark, I consider that game to be "mature" in the sense that you are concentrating on keeping your subscriber base as opposed to expanding it (barring, of course, a paradigm-shifting event such as going free to play- obviously that will expand your player base and at least some of them will subscribe), so I guess I can't fault devs for trying to please the majority of their players.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

License to Kill.
I get Oddjob.

Cheap spam. House rules forbid it. ;)

[zwiebelring]

I like the DDO pay to win. People who are complaining the way the OP does are just angry because they wasted time grinding while I don't have to*. I like the options on Tomes out of the DDO store.

*more or less serious. I don't see any plausible reason for grinding if i can avoid it. And especially Tomes go off after TRing so you effectively lose all the money spend this way.

[mournbladereigns]

Agreeing with a post a couple posts up. If you could ONLY get these things in the store, yeah, p2w, but since they drop (I've looted astral diamonds and xp pots and, tomorrow, hope to see some +3 tomes) it's not (IMO). The only thing they promised, and which we don't have in game but ONLY in store, which they are "kinda" giving us tomorrow, are armor kits. They did promise armor kits would drop and be able to be bought/sold in the AH, and yet, nada.

Otherwise, everything in the store can be found in game (as far as I know the only exception is armor kits, if there are more please inform).

So really, you're "paying to win faster than if you didn't pay" because you have more money than time. Which is fair, because I'm a teacher, and I have..., oh, right, I have neither :(

Reroll as a caster/wall street exec!

[Mani]

Since the can of worms has been opened on pay-to-win (+3 tomes in stores) and since U12 includes pez dispensors for rare epic scrolls, let's just fast forward to the inevitable end game of this all please.

TR'ing is "too grindy". I'd like DDO store cookies that I can om nom nom for 4.5 million XP per nom. I don't want to actually play the low level stuff, just want the XP Will pay any price and will take 42 of them please. Thank you.

Also, the following epic shards are "too grindy" and would like pez dispensors for them as well please:

- ring of spell storing
- sword of shadows

And cleansing stone from shroud is "too grindy". Running 20 shrouds is just lame at this point. It's only fair those are in the DDO store too.

+4 tomes...yep..."too grindy". Let's get cracking on getting those uploaded to the store.

Actually, logging into the game is kinda grindy as well. Can we do something about that as well?

Man, typing this out sure was grindy. Does the DDO store sell hand lotion?


This is a great idea. I can have more time to spend on other things.

[sly_1]

opening the ddo store and buying stuff is takes WAY too much effort. They should just give you the xp and epic gear automatically without having to spend all of that time grinding the ddo store.

Ooh! Look! a robotic pony!!:

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2010/068/3/d/My_Little_Pony_Robot_Unicorn_1_by_noelle23.jpg

*runs off*

[Lifespawn]

+3 tomes will be dropping in regular chests tomorrow



@ op desert scrolls were stupid expensive and very diluted the only people upset over this change are the people that liked to screw people over in outrageous trades.

neg rep for what? truth?

[Algreg]

I guess Pandora´s Box or Fortuna´s Horn, as whatever you may see it, has opened allready and won´t be closed again. Probably in the long run a mictransaction model cannot survive without some solid incentive in the store. I am fine with that by now, put into the store whatever you like (but it be a fine move if Turbine actually would be honest about it instead of trying to sneak it in by tiny steps - unsuccessfully for that matter). rather do that than touch general game mechanics with every update. I have taken a longer break now till I can see an end to reevaluating old content over and over again.

[NaturalHazard]

just the generic stuff. I'd prefer some some official Stormreach stuff. Cause the best lotion is the lotion that you pay for.

I guess you pay for everything huh?

[NaturalHazard]

neg rep for what? truth?

Didnt you know that one of the most offensive things to some people is the Truth?

[grayham]

since U12 includes pez dispensors for rare epic scrolls,

I was trying to work out why you were so mad, then I saw on your sig that you have ground out every Desert epic scroll.

No wonder you're mad.

Hey ho.

[Veriden]

The vets wanted the game harder, so the devs did it in many ways
1.) Made hirelings utterly stupid. I mean really a close nit tactical squad of 6 people would not have their medic(we'll call him leroy for now) Lead into the fray while the rest of the team prepared for oncoming battles.
2.) Increased lag. Raid completions became too common on all difficulties, increase lag means easy button is deleted.
3.) Buff raid boss hp melees were not useful enough before and healers didn't need pots paired with lag we wanted epic fights to be a strain so they increased time it takes to stand there with auto attack and spamming the same buttons by two times over.

Made many of the vets happy with the changes to the raids, the easy button of the scrolls trade 3 for 1 doesn't affect any one who isn't selling them at extortionist prices. Oh boo hooo you'll get less plat for them now. Those who say its too easy to make the desert items now do remember the drop rate for seals and shards are unchanged so it'll take just as long to get the non-purchasable parts.

Don't worry casters you're not nerfed in any way in the update either, heaven knows what'd happen if casters got any sort of nerf.

Edit: Oh and DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[Jeduthun]

I think the DDO store is great, when I first started playing I was able to buy buffs/res cakes etc that made the journey easier and more fun, because instead of dieing and getting mad I was able to buff and/or res myself. Now that I've been playing a few months, I play better, die less and can afford to buy the available in game buffs using in game money. I suppose you could call being able to buy Heroism, Barkskin and Haste pots p2w as well going along the OP's tangent.

[Chai]

That's just it, chai.

Someone who thinks that DDO is an insufferable grind could not have played the original EQ because they would not make such a comparison if they had. A group of six sitting at one spawn point for, oh, six hours, fighting the same mobs over and over and over again, knowing that there was a waiting list- yep, the group leader typically had a list of players who wanted to take the place of someone who left- and knowing that there really was no other way to earn experience....now THAT'S a grind. I enjoyed the game because, really, it was the first of it's kind for me (although I had played NWN on AOL) and the novelty of it blinded me to the game's flaws. But capping a character on EQ is like capping multiple characters in DDO. The difference in time investment is staggering.

But let's not forget that the trend in MMOs is to make the early- and mid-game pass as quickly as possible so as to get the players to a point where they can enjoy the end game, which is where developers seem to focus the majority of their efforts. Once your game passes the three to five mark, I consider that game to be "mature" in the sense that you are concentrating on keeping your subscriber base as opposed to expanding it (barring, of course, a paradigm-shifting event such as going free to play- obviously that will expand your player base and at least some of them will subscribe), so I guess I can't fault devs for trying to please the majority of their players.

I remember sitting in a group to kill a mob that always dropped the loot we wanted, but every hour when he popped it was like 1/8th of a chance it would be him, and 7/8ths chance it would be some placeholder mob that dropped garbage. 7 hours later when he finally popped, some wizard came over and one shot killed it, looted, and scooted. Many keyboards did not live through that day, heh.

DDO differs from other games in the 3-5 year old mature game rule, due to that paradigm-shifting event you outlined, where most of the players are not end game players.

I still think its cute though when I see people referring to DDO as a grind game, heh. The epic weapon quests in EQ1, many of them 50+ steps, were more insane that anything we have seen in DDO. That was to fill one slot. Everything else was filled by single instance per server raids. Imagine one guild killing Horoth on monday, and that locks out Horoth for everyone else on the server til next monday. Think encrusted rings are hard to come by these days? Pffft. LOL.

[katz]

I remember sitting in a group to kill a mob that always dropped the loot we wanted, but every hour when he popped it was like 1/8th of a chance it would be him, and 7/8ths chance it would be some placeholder mob that dropped garbage. 7 hours later when he finally popped, some wizard came over and one shot killed it, looted, and scooted. Many keyboards did not live through that day, heh.

DDO differs from other games in the 3-5 year old mature game rule, due to that paradigm-shifting event you outlined, where most of the players are not end game players.

I still think its cute though when I see people referring to DDO as a grind game, heh. The epic weapon quests in EQ1, many of them 50+ steps, were more insane that anything we have seen in DDO. That was to fill one slot. Everything else was filled by single instance per server raids. Imagine one guild killing Horoth on monday, and that locks out Horoth for everyone else on the server til next monday. Think encrusted rings are hard to come by these days? Pffft. LOL.


and 2-3 guilds with anywhere between 18 upwards to 40+ people from EACH GUILD would be there waiting when spawn timer was supposed to be up... bickering with each other over who got the rights to it. Celestial Tomb on Veeshan could crash a zone when they showed up to raid. >.<

i camped that stupid + wisdom book (that i can't even remember the name of anymore) that all the druids wanted. did it twice (once for my husband, once for me) 8 hours sitting staring at a wall the first time. second time i logged off right there in anticipation of server maintenance. logged back in the instant i was able and he was there. nuked his pants off, collected book, and ran just as another guy logged back in right behind me. :eek:

yeah. this game has got nothin' on that

[Chai]

and 2-3 guilds with anywhere between 18 upwards to 40+ people from EACH GUILD would be there waiting when spawn timer was supposed to be up... bickering with each other over who got the rights to it. Celestial Tomb on Veeshan could crash a zone when they showed up to raid. >.<

Bickering, in the form of a 75 mob rofltrain® centered on the other guilds healers who are too concentrated on keeping their heal chain timer going to worry about the incomming stampede. :p


i camped that stupid + wisdom book (that i can't even remember the name of anymore) that all the druids wanted. did it twice (once for my husband, once for me) 8 hours sitting staring at a wall the first time. second time i logged off right there in anticipation of server maintenance. logged back in the instant i was able and he was there. nuked his pants off, collected book, and ran just as another guy logged back in right behind me. :eek:

yeah. this game has got nothin' on that

I think that camp was in highpass hold. I remember it well. Lots of homework got done waiting for that one to pop, heh.

[katz]

Bickering, in the form of a 75 mob rofltrain® centered on the other guilds healers who are too concentrated on keeping their heal chain timer going to worry about the incomming stampede. :p

i dunno. i was in a small guild. but the rage in the chat channels on a boss spawn was almost always lol-worthy.




I think that camp was in highpass hold. I remember it well. Lots of homework got done waiting for that one to pop, heh.

yup. Highpass. that's the place alright.

[LordMond63]

and 2-3 guilds with anywhere between 18 upwards to 40+ people from EACH GUILD would be there waiting when spawn timer was supposed to be up... bickering with each other over who got the rights to it. Celestial Tomb on Veeshan could crash a zone when they showed up to raid. >.<

Or a guild of that size would get together, pick an item they wanted to acquire for all of their members who could use it, and then go to that dungeon where the critter that dropped it spawned and camp that spot for REAL TIME DAYS until everyone who wanted one got one. I saw that happen more than once.


i camped that stupid + wisdom book (that i can't even remember the name of anymore) that all the druids wanted. did it twice (once for my husband, once for me) 8 hours sitting staring at a wall the first time. second time i logged off right there in anticipation of server maintenance. logged back in the instant i was able and he was there. nuked his pants off, collected book, and ran just as another guy logged back in right behind me. :eek:

Chai mentions Highhold Pass as being the location and he's absolutely right. The guy spawned once every two or three days in a bandit camp that was well of the beaten path. What most people did was to go to the spot and log off there and log back in periodically to see if the guy spawned. I think what he dropped was a page from a book that you had to combine in the book with another page you got somewhere else. My Druid managed to get his page the exact same way you did: logging in right after server maintenance, which seemed to be the time that all of the rare mobs spawned to reset their individual timers.


yeah. this game has got nothin' on that

Spot on. There's grinds and then there's GRINDS.

[Oakianus]

+3 tomes are no longer raid loot, so it's really hard not to see this thread as irrational crying. :(

[transtemporal]

Lol, some of you guys posting in here need to take it easy. It's just a humorous take on the "this game is too hard" threads, not a personal attack on anyone.