Pure KotC Human. How does it look?

[Bored_Turtle]

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 302
Spell Points: 300
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 14
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 23
Dexterity 12 12
Constitution 14 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 10 10
Charisma 16 22

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 12
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 3 12.5
Bluff 3 6
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 3 6
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 6
Heal 0 0
Hide 1 1
Intimidate 7 29
Jump 3 6
Listen 0 0
Move Silently 1 1
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 0 0
Swim 3 6
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might IV

[WielderofGigantus]

Drop your Dex down to 8 and raise your Con up to 16. Those few points in dex don't really do anything.

Switch the Weapon Focus for Force of Personality. The loss of +1 to hit is more than made up by the huge bonus to your will saves.

[arminius]

I don't recommend falling into the trap, as I did for years, of splitting the level up points between Str and Cha. Go all Str. I just lesser reincarnated my paladins to make up for this fundamental error. High to-hit number and high base physical damage is much more important at endgame now than it was even a year ago. My main pally spent most of her years with a Str of 26-28. Fortunately, most of those years were things like Normal Shroud, where to-hit doesn't matter.

You can say, oh it is two points, what does it matter, that's only 1 to-hit and 1 damage. Well like a lot in the game (like AC or UMD), little bits here and there add up to big improvements. Now as a DoS and with the respec she has a 42 in stance, and could have had a 44 if I had dumped Cha even more. The difference it makes is astronmical, especially in epic--things are hard enough to beat down without wiffing every other swing.

Edit: now that I reread the thread, I see that you are specifically KotC but my example is a DoS. I also have a KotC that languished in the mid-20's in Str for years, and now has a 32, and that is before any exceptional Str items. As a KotC it helps a lot, because those huge damage numbers don't matter if you don't connect with what you are swinging at. Before epics were introduced that wasn't an issue, but now it is.

[elraido]

Drop your Dex down to 8 and raise your Con up to 16. Those few points in dex don't really do anything.

Switch the Weapon Focus for Force of Personality. The loss of +1 to hit is more than made up by the huge bonus to your will saves.

Force of personality is a waste. You should be around mid 30's to 40's in your will save with out it. That is more than enough. The only time you should fail is with a one anyway.

Forget weapon focus as well. Take Improved Critical Slashing.

Also, Dump all skill points into UMD and/or intimidate.

[WielderofGigantus]

He's already taking Improved Crit. And FoP is quite useful at low levels to resist those kobold shamans throwing hold person spells at you.

Perhaps you can explain to me how a pure paladin can get such high will saves?

Lvl 20 KotC Paladin, as described above.
Base Will Save = +6
Wisdom = +4 (10 base Wis, +6 Wis item, +2 Tome = 18 Wis)
Divine Grace = +8 (16 base Cha, +6 Cha item, +2 Tome, +2 Enhancements = 26 Cha)
Resistance = +5
Aura of Good = +1

Total = +24

Add in GH and you have +28

What am I missing?

[karl_k0ch]

Also, Dump all skill points into UMD and/or intimidate.
And/or Balance. A Paladin who lies on his back deals zero DPS.

Here's a reasonable reference build: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=240780

Note that taking Stunning Blow is a bit outdated. Viable options include SF:UMD, another Toughness, Quicken, Maximize, and even maybe a Sentinel Dragonmark, if you are interested in Going S&B sometimes.


What am I missing?
More Aura tiers.
+2 Luck
+1 ship wis
+1 ship cha

I agree, FoP will be useful in early levels, but Paladins are usually well-equipped, Will-wise.
You could take it early and swap it later on for one of the aforementioned feats for some Dragonshards.

[MakeItADouble]

dump Dex - serves no purpose
dump Wisdom - you only need a 14 to cast your highest lv. spells

[elraido]

He's already taking Improved Crit. And FoP is quite useful at low levels to resist those kobold shamans throwing hold person spells at you.

Perhaps you can explain to me how a pure paladin can get such high will saves?

Lvl 20 KotC Paladin, as described above.
Base Will Save = +6
Wisdom = +4 (10 base Wis, +6 Wis item, +2 Tome = 18 Wis)
Divine Grace = +8 (16 base Cha, +6 Cha item, +2 Tome, +2 Enhancements = 26 Cha)
Resistance = +5
Aura of Good = +1

Total = +24

Add in GH and you have +28

What am I missing?

Like mentioned, other options are:
+2 luck
+1 ship buff
+1 wis ship
+1 char ship
+1 ToD ring with exceptional Char
+1 ToD Ring with exceptional Wis
+4 Superior Parrying