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Dark_Necromancer
10-08-2011, 02:11 PM
I was looking for a new guild on the forums when I saw a requirement:


As a basis if you feel you are the exception to this,each applicant must:


Have TeamSpeak3 capabilities



So I went to the website for Teamspeak 3 and I saw the promo and I'm as confused as ever(grammar nazis, contain yourselves for a moment)!

What's the difference between using Teamspeak 3 and the voice chat already in the game.

Prompt help would be much appreciated.

Jaid314
10-08-2011, 02:16 PM
voice chat in game:

- crappy quality
- uncontrollable volume
- limited only to group members, not guild-wide
- not usable when DDO is not on (for example, if you crash it would be really quite difficult to let the group know via group chat that you're logging back in)

almost any out-of-game voice chat program:

- much better quality
- can control both your incoming and outgoing volume, often even being member-specific
- can be used for group, for guild, and for as many sub-groups as you want by creating multiple rooms that are dependent only on what room you want to be on, not whether you're in the group or not.
- can be used at any time; while switching characters, when crashed, etc.

heck, if i sat down to think about it, i'm sure i could come up with more reasons. the short version:

in game voice chat sucks. a lot. external voice chat programs are generally much much better.

Rubiconn
10-08-2011, 02:30 PM
Teamspeak, ventrillo, and GSC all secondary chat programs are immensely helpful in DDO.

First I always log on to the chat program first to find out what if anything people are running so I can log on with the right toon and get right to it.
Second it helps if you need to greif someone in your group without drawing the ire of the mods.
Third you can curse like a drunken sailor since the secondary programs are outside the control of Turbine.
Fourth you can let guildies in your group know what loot you are looking for or are willing to trade within the guild in case something cool drops. I know this is not in line with the generally accepted loot rules(like there are loot rules) but hey it happens Im just explaining how it happens.
In certain quests when you are talking about something and say you are in the Abbot and people are working the puzzles and you are finished with asteroids you can have a conversation with someone without getting in the groups way.
Most of the programs have multiple channels so you can segregate yourself if you have questions on char builds, strategy, and general noobishness without catching **** from everyone in game. You get much better advice from your guildies then the general public.


I do agree with what else was said above.

Jakarr
10-08-2011, 03:39 PM
What these 2 said for sure above me.

I play with 3 RL friends and we use Skype(gotta love Free) I dont think we have ever touched the in game voice for the reasons noted above its just terrible.

Also I tend to hate grping with people that insist on ppl using the in-game voice specially when I cant hear em gah, I have my ingame volume down to 3% across the board(except for voice) and computer volume down so I can turn up DDO just so I can hear the voice chat that I would other wise not hear one bit.

I think it really needs updating, was a great idea when DDO first came out but its...features are a bit outdated now.

Rawel_San
10-08-2011, 03:45 PM
Along with all the other stuff people have mentioned already one of the extremely useful things about
vent/teamspeak is it has negligible lag. The in game chat has a voice lag close to 1 sec in some places,
most specifically abbot tiles but there are other places, 1 sec can be difference between redo quest and finish
without trouble.

mournbladereigns
10-08-2011, 03:56 PM
voice chat in game:

- crappy quality
- uncontrollable volume
- limited only to group members, not guild-wide
- not usable when DDO is not on (for example, if you crash it would be really quite difficult to let the group know via group chat that you're logging back in)

almost any out-of-game voice chat program:

- much better quality
- can control both your incoming and outgoing volume, often even being member-specific
- can be used for group, for guild, and for as many sub-groups as you want by creating multiple rooms that are dependent only on what room you want to be on, not whether you're in the group or not.
- can be used at any time; while switching characters, when crashed, etc.

heck, if i sat down to think about it, i'm sure i could come up with more reasons. the short version:

in game voice chat sucks. a lot. external voice chat programs are generally much much better.

Also, You can make fun of the stupid n00b in your group while still in the group.

And, you can record it and become internet famoose!

http://youtu.be/HtvIYRrgZ04

Dark_Necromancer
10-09-2011, 07:32 PM
Contrary to what a lot of people have said, you can control the ingoing and outgoing volume for voice chat in the audio options panel. However, I see the advantage of being able to still voice chat should the game crash. However, are these voice programs big enough that I can say, join my guilds channel and be able to talk to people? The thing about the voice chat is that: its built right into the game. A lot of these are separate things that people still have to download, and go into rooms, and so on. Also, is there any specific voice program that works the best?

Jaid314
10-09-2011, 10:23 PM
find a guild that uses any of them, i rather expect they're all much of a muchness. most of them have a free client, only the server owner needs to pay anything.

and while you can increase voice volume, it quite frankly usually isn't enough even at 100%, and it doesn't let you adjust it per person. so if person A is always quiet and person B is thunderously loud, you can crank person A up to 200% and person B down to 33%.

but seriously, give it a try. i will be shocked if you think in-game chat is any good after that :P

Dark_Necromancer
10-09-2011, 11:24 PM
I downloaded and installed TeamSpeak 3, but I am rather confused on how to use it. When I look at the tutorials on the website, my computer slowed to a crawl and nearly crashed. Can someone recommend a good set of tutorials to get me up and running??