reincarnating my fighter

[zex95966]

My first char I built. He is 1 rogue, 1 barb, and 11 fighter at the moment.

I made a lot of mistakes on him and think I want to reincarnate him but I have a question:
If I do the +1 lesser, can I end up with 11 fighter, 2 rogue at the level I want?

I want to take my other rogue level much later, when I can get the most UMD out of it, but since I started as 1 rogue, 1 barb, i'm not sure if I will be able to take out the barb, put in rogue and then move it to a much later level?

[Relenthe]

you can change to 11 fighter 2 rogue, but only by changing the barb level to rogue

[zex95966]

you can change to 11 fighter 2 rogue, but only by changing the barb level to rogue

That's what I was afraid of.
what would it take to change it to a much later level?

Dam that really sucks... I don't like pure fighters to much, the low will and reflex just bothers me when compared to say a pure barb who at least has will save (esp if your a dwarf, which my fighter is) Tactics fighter is about the best solution I can come up with now I think, but low saves is ugly. It's tiring to be held, charmed, feared, looked at funny... etc.

maybe 2 pally would work to bump up saves to less than absolute garbage but I dunno how much of a difference it would make, esp with charisma penalty to dwarf... at least with 2 rogue, I could have gone twf, which would also bump up reflex, and I would have evasion.

I'm neutral so I don't think I can go 2 monk at this point, besides I really wanted UMD, but it looks impossible with rogue levels only on first 2 levels...

[AMDarkwolf]

k this is what thy don't tell you.

When for instance, during your original leveling plan, u went rog, fgt, barb, fgt=>

When u are LRing u HAVE to switch the THIRD level to rog, and that uses up that +1.

Also, just in case u don't know, if u splash rog its ALWAYS best to take rog as the FIRST level since it gains so many skill points compared to any other class.

What I suggest, (Please don't hate me) is run it to 20, as your current build, fix mistakes as u go but 'learn' as u level with what u want to change, run a month or so of epics, and TR into a new, stronger build. The fighter past life will help you quite a bit at lower lvs, and even some at higher levels if a non 1/bab class. (And melee...lol)

[zex95966]

k this is what thy don't tell you.

When for instance, during your original leveling plan, u went rog, fgt, barb, fgt=>

When u are LRing u HAVE to switch the THIRD level to rog, and that uses up that +1.

Also, just in case u don't know, if u splash rog its ALWAYS best to take rog as the FIRST level since it gains so many skill points compared to any other class.

What I suggest, (Please don't hate me) is run it to 20, as your current build, fix mistakes as u go but 'learn' as u level with what u want to change, run a month or so of epics, and TR into a new, stronger build. The fighter past life will help you quite a bit at lower lvs, and even some at higher levels if a non 1/bab class. (And melee...lol)

haha I dont hate you.
I just hate how terrible my character is atm.
he's got way to much intelligence as well as dex which he doesn't need... and has skill points in tumble, to much jump, pathetic saves, and I don't even like his name.

[Feithlin]

Your solution could be to LR into Fighter 11 Rogue 1 (changing barb level to fighter), then take rogue later when you feel it's better (at level 14 for example, when you already have kensei II).