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TheDjinnFor
09-30-2011, 06:51 AM
^topic

Is it just ballpark speculation or has anyone really sat down and measured the damage output several Lightning strike procs over the course of fifty or so procs?

I've been wondering that for a while now.

sirgog
09-30-2011, 07:18 AM
Do you mean proc rate or damage per successful proc?

The long-term community estimate has been 2%/600. Would be interesting to see a statistical analysis, and no, I'm not volunteering to collect the data.

I'd also be interested to hear extreme outlier values. On regular targets (no resist, 100% incoming elec damage), what's the biggest strike you've seen, and the smallest? (My biggest was 687).

Captain_Wizbang
09-30-2011, 07:18 AM
I can't tell you about 50 or so strikes, nothing lives that long. :eek:

But, with the old Chimeras fang (main) & GS lightning (off hand) on Harry, the max Ive dealt per melee round was 2200K.

Fang = 700 for the main strike.
GS = 600

the best a few of us could figure out, proc rates are;
Fang = 5 to 7 %
GS = 3%

Moltier
09-30-2011, 07:40 AM
Do you mean proc rate or damage per successful proc?

The long-term community estimate has been 2%/600. Would be interesting to see a statistical analysis, and no, I'm not volunteering to collect the data.

I'd also be interested to hear extreme outlier values. On regular targets (no resist, 100% incoming elec damage), what's the biggest strike you've seen, and the smallest? (My biggest was 687).

I have seen a few over 650, and only 1 a tiny bit over 700. I think that hit was 702.
The lowest was under 500.

Vazok1
09-30-2011, 07:44 AM
we need the old scrags back to test these things lol

TheDjinnFor
09-30-2011, 07:56 AM
Do you mean proc rate or damage per successful proc?

The long-term community estimate has been 2%/600. Would be interesting to see a statistical analysis, and no, I'm not volunteering to collect the data.

Meh, I'll just go do it. I'll go beat up the training dummy for 20 minutes, I can usually get one lightning strike to proc every 30 seconds of hasted swinging.

See I did that before, measured about 10 procs, and got a rough estimate of 125d3+375 at 2.5% proc rate. I'll go see if I can get about 50 procs as well as a good number of actual swings.

Kaledor
09-30-2011, 08:19 AM
Not sure about the rate, does tend to proc alot. Also highest I've seen was 996. One day I'll break a thousand on it 8)

Shade
09-30-2011, 08:35 AM
2%,
500-700.

Thats it.

Anyone claiming over 700 is using it against a helpless/weakened/vulnerable monster. (in the case of vulnerable sutff, i got a 1200+ in deeps, double lightning dmg there)

Under 500.. Think i saw a 495, but very rare and maybe the monster had resistance..

Proc rates for other things have been confirmed as 1%/2%/4% by devs.. So they obviously use whole numbers on a d100.. So guesses like "2.5%" are extremely unlikely.

Kinerd
10-01-2011, 04:53 PM
If anyone would like to spot me all the ingredients I'd need to make a lit 2, I will happily test it to within a standard deviation of its life (once Cove ends).

Cold_Stele
10-01-2011, 04:58 PM
(Combat): You hit Training Dummy for 918 points of electric damage.

Thought I was onto something huge when I first saw this as I was damage boosting. I replicated it completely unbuffed though.

What gives?

wigthemaster
10-01-2011, 05:28 PM
(Combat): You hit Training Dummy for 918 points of electric damage.

Thought I was onto something huge when I first saw this as I was damage boosting. I replicated it completely unbuffed though.

What gives?

training dummy is helpless (+50% damage)

sirgog
10-01-2011, 07:53 PM
Meh, I'll just go do it. I'll go beat up the training dummy for 20 minutes, I can usually get one lightning strike to proc every 30 seconds of hasted swinging.

See I did that before, measured about 10 procs, and got a rough estimate of 125d3+375 at 2.5% proc rate. I'll go see if I can get about 50 procs as well as a good number of actual swings.



50 procs is not nearly enough to be statistically relevant.

We'd need a good 10000-15000 swings (200-375 procs depending on 2%/2.5%) to put the wrong one three standard deviations from the mean (which is 'beyond reasonable doubt' in statistics).