This is just a game!

[Quetzacoala]

I have an amazing idea to put forth to the community, so here goes!

This game is about fun, first and foremost... if you are not having fun playing a class or a race, simply do not play it. This is not about having the best possible dps or the rarest gear, this game is about having fun and working together as a team.

I have seen many people complaining about various features of the game, or that something simply is not as powerful as they had hoped for. While a fair number are legitimate concerns, there are some that are simply people raging that something is not working as well as they were hoping it would. If it is fun, who cares? And if it is not, why bother?

That is just my two cents, looking forward to seeing what people say about this amazing concept. I am not downgrading anyone who strives to get optimal gear or make the best build, I am simply saying that many people have forgotten that this game is all about having fun!

[rest]

Actually, it's my hobby.

[MaximusParthas]

true it is just a game. but so is basketball, football, hockey and all the Olympic competitions. sometimes people play to win in addition to the fun. ever see someone screaming at the ref for an arguable call? how about the golfer who breaks his clubs in frustration? thats all part of the game too. Whats wrong with trying to be the best you can be? nothing as far as i know. unfortunately if you strive to achieve and get any type of success here in ddo your quickly deemed an elitist. w/e
Although i cant say i endorse all the screaming and bashing going on i can understand some of the frustrations.

[Gizeh]

But... if I can't whine about how race x or class y has been gimped or has never been as powerful as it should have been in the first place, what would be the reason to play it?

[Quetzacoala]

true it is just a game. but so is basketball, football, hockey and all the Olympic competitions. sometimes people play to win in addition to the fun. ever see someone screaming at the ref for an arguable call? how about the golfer who breaks his clubs in frustration? thats all part of the game too. Whats wrong with trying to be the best you can be? nothing as far as i know. unfortunately if you strive to achieve and get any type of success here in ddo your quickly deemed an elitist. w/e
Although i cant say i endorse all the screaming and bashing going on i can understand some of the frustrations.

I am not downgrading anyone who strives to get the best gear and maxamize their character's potential, or that complaining about something is wrong. This is something basically everyone tries to do, myself included. I just think some people take this game too seriously, and need to be reminded it is about fun :D

[Jasparion]

Actually, it's my hobby.

Its my way of playing on my laptop with earplugs in while the wife watches her shows.

[Vellrad]

NO! U know NOTHING!!1!
Its not a game! Its whole LIFE!!1!
Its hard and responsible work, be glad someone is doing it!!1!

[MaximusParthas]

NO! U know NOTHING!!1!
Its not a game! Its whole LIFE!!1!
Its hard and responsible work, be glad someone is doing it!!1!

Ha! Reminds me of the lyrics from jace Hall's "I Play WOW"


I call it straight dedication, you can call me crazy
You talking sh**, man, why don't you come and play me
I'm going twenty-two hours, who you calling lazy?
I'm pwning noobs at PVP and my level's past eighty!

video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltM5jHIJFw4

[BurnerD]

Congatulations!
http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/13/29/32/54/bob_ba10.jpg
You have just made the 10,000th "It's just a game" post!

Tell him what he's won Johnny!

:rolleyes:


Seriously though... I agree with your sentiment.

[Praya20]

DDO is what i do to hang out with my firends. If it were JUST a game, i would not be playing it.

[Jakarr]

Congatulations!
http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/13/29/32/54/bob_ba10.jpg
You have just made the 10,000th "It's just a game" post!

Tell him what he's won Johnny!

:rolleyes:


Seriously though... I agree with your sentiment.

Well Burner, He won a BRAND NEW CA....err I mean the counter argument saying.

To the OP, Fun comes in all sorts of sizes. I dont really find it fun to take an hour doing butchers path but some love it. I enjoy making a character and progessing him from lvl 1-20 and gettin him lovely gear along the way along with Min/Maxing as much as I can. My fun comes from the challenge(well what challenge is left).

[Ugumagre]

****!!!
I was wondering why at the end of the month I didn´t get a pay check!!

[Philibusta]

I agree with the OP's sentiment.

While it's not a bad thing to want the best for your characters, gear-wise or whatever, my real issues...well not issues but...my lack of understanding... lie with those types of players who would never ever ever ever in a million billion jillion years play, for an example, an Elf fighter because theyre not the "optimal" race for that class. If it's fun, do it!

[Burtle]

Wait....does this mean.... I CAN'T date my avatar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU :D

[Crazeee]

Wait....does this mean.... I CAN'T date my avatar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU :D

Of course you can date YOUR avatar... sorta. You see, you avatar is controlled by your hand and.... you get the point ;)

[goodspeed]

I can see you've never "accidentally" tripped or sabotaged your opponent just to win a "game" before.

[Seventh]

People approach video games (MMO's especially) in different ways. To some, they are just games- quick diversions for when there's nothing better do to- and to others they're an involved, dedicated hobby. Neither approach is any more or less valid than the other and acting like another person is playing "the wrong way" because they don't subscribe to your viewpoint is asinine.

Too much of the conflict in the gaming community arises from our seeming inability to comprehend that maybe, just maybe, our specific views on what make a game "good" aren't an objective truth, that there are other ways that games can be good or alternate ways for the same games to be enjoyed, and that all those people who aren't casual/elitist/old-school/modern/console/PC/whateverthehell players like *I* am deserve to have fun as well.

I feel kinda bad for every dev team that's had to look at a community that's ripped itself apart. That moment when they realize they're in a damned-if-I-do damned-if-I-don't situation when it comes to how they're going to develop their game cannot be fun. Or do devs just assume that how it's going to be right from the start nowadays?

[Burtle]

Of course you can date YOUR avatar... sorta. You see, you avatar is controlled by your hand and.... you get the point ;)


No...I don't get the point.... how can I..she's in this virtual... :eek: .... oh wait... NOW I get it.... :rolleyes:

[chickenmaniac]

It's a game I PAY for though.

[Candela90]

I totally agree.

Im done with liestening to people who say to me "why u went human, not warforged" or "why u went elf not human"...
If i can stay alive and do what im supposed to do, what is their problem?
I play the race i like, and im okey with it. I get that going e.g. horc sorcerer isnt(-2 char) the best idea, but come on... if someone can play it good, let him/her do it.

[werk]

NO! U know NOTHING!!1!
Its not a game! Its whole LIFE!!1!

I heard someone explain exactly this in a raid a while back.

All they did was sleep and play. Day after day. No job, no life, just DDO.


For someone like that, I can almost understand them being very personally or emotionally upset when things don't go exactly as they expect.

Obviously, the thing they are upset about is not the core of their issue(s).

[baletraeger]

true it is just a game. but so is basketball, football, hockey and all the Olympic competitions. sometimes people play to win in addition to the fun. ever see someone screaming at the ref for an arguable call? how about the golfer who breaks his clubs in frustration? thats all part of the game too. Whats wrong with trying to be the best you can be? nothing as far as i know. unfortunately if you strive to achieve and get any type of success here in ddo your quickly deemed an elitist. w/e
Although i cant say i endorse all the screaming and bashing going on i can understand some of the frustrations.

Sorry Krimmy, but this is a game, and what you are comparing it to is a group of competitive sports. Apples to Watermelons...

[Jakarr]

Looks like everyone who agrees with the op is just complaining about people trying to either help them, figure out what they are, or are a jerk.

What you are ignoring is whats fun for you isn't fun for everyone else...

[Emizand]

"Someone said to me 'football is more important than life and death' and I said 'Listen, it's more important than that.'"

Bill Shankly 1981.

[innersphere1]

Yes its just a game for you and me, but for many many other guys its like Real life

[Jakarr]

Yes its just a game for you and me, but for many many other guys its like Real life

Little out of context here, Its a game for some but for many its a Hobby or something people treat sports like. Like another poster said there are some pretty fanatic football fans.

[Crusad]

Im having fun gearing my characters, you like some different way to play this game. Why is yours better than mine? Problem is, when this both different groups meet and thats the reason why you can add comments to your lfm to make sure you wont get players who want to play differently. There are more ways to have fun(but people should be careful to not ruin someone else's fun while having theirs)...

[r3dl4nce]

DDO is a game. A game is something to have fun. Everyone has his own ways to have fun.
Respect the fun of everyone.

[Jakarr]

DDO is a game. A game is something to have fun. Everyone has his own ways to have fun.
Respect the fun of everyone.
qft

[Vellrad]

No...I don't get the point.... how can I..she's in this virtual... :eek: .... oh wait... NOW I get it.... :rolleyes:

I don't get it.
Is this good or bad?

[Vellrad]

I heard someone explain exactly this in a raid a while back.

All they did was sleep and play. Day after day. No job, no life, just DDO.



Well, I also eat sometimes... sometimes...

[Crystalizer]

that thread remembers me some few threads we had on european forums, history tends to loop...
at least ddo inspires passion to some of us !

[MaximusParthas]

Sorry Krimmy, but this is a game, and what you are comparing it to is a group of competitive sports. Apples to Watermelons...


The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.[1] Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[2] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[3]

[Captain_Wizbang]

I took nearly half a year off, and came back, the drama kings & queens are still just that, most of my guild moved on, BUT
I'm having fun again!
Forget all the nonsense & just play & have fun.
The game is evolving nicely, but the lag really is bad.

As rest put it, its the 10,000 post about this, but I agree wholeheartedly.

[Schmoe]

I have an amazing idea to put forth to the community, so here goes!

This game is about fun, first and foremost... if you are not having fun playing a class or a race, simply do not play it. This is not about having the best possible dps or the rarest gear, this game is about having fun and working together as a team.

I have seen many people complaining about various features of the game, or that something simply is not as powerful as they had hoped for. While a fair number are legitimate concerns, there are some that are simply people raging that something is not working as well as they were hoping it would. If it is fun, who cares? And if it is not, why bother?

That is just my two cents, looking forward to seeing what people say about this amazing concept. I am not downgrading anyone who strives to get optimal gear or make the best build, I am simply saying that many people have forgotten that this game is all about having fun!

Enjoy the DDO Store!

[ironmaiden-br]

"Life is just a game that you have to win"

[mournbladereigns]

This game is about fun, first and foremost... if you are not having fun playing a class or a race, simply do not play it. This is not about having the best possible dps or the rarest gear, this game is about having fun and working together as a team.


Now now, we don't need to work together as a team so much, except in Raids, and then its mostly people just beating on the boss.
Soloing FTW!

My Toon is My Toon
My Loot is My Loot
Don't hate the game, hate the playah!

Haters gonna hate!

[Thrudh]

true it is just a game. but so is basketball, football, hockey and all the Olympic competitions. sometimes people play to win in addition to the fun. ever see someone screaming at the ref for an arguable call? how about the golfer who breaks his clubs in frustration? thats all part of the game too.

I only see that in "professional" games...

Just like I think some of the people who scream and rant and rage-quit on these forums are very strange people, I also think the same about a casual golf buddy who breaks his clubs or a basketball player in a pick-up game who starts screaming about fouls.

I say to them.. "Dude, it's just a game... Calm down..."

Same as I say here on these boards.

[Callavan]

The oldest definition of sport in English (1300) is of anything humans find amusing or entertaining.[1] Other meanings include gambling and events staged for the purpose of gambling; hunting; and games and diversions, including ones that require exercise.[2] Roget's defines the noun sport as an "activity engaged in for relaxation and amusement" with synonyms including diversion and recreation.[3]

Right. Relaxation. Which is a thing that some people don't seem to know how to do, even when they're sporting. So the idea here is to relax; it's a game, enjoy it.

Relax... relax... *waves hand*

[Purgatory]

This may be just anouther game to you...

To many other including myself It's more then just a game otherwise I wouldnt not still be playing this game for 6 years that I have been playing...

To me its a hobby wich is alot more then just a game and is part of my life which includes a heck of alot more then just DDO but it is still a good portion of my life and IF you want to think of it as just a game then so be it but please dont tell me that I cant put more value on it then the value you have placed on it.

Have some respect for other people and there intrest.
I dont try and down grade your intrests and the value you place on them so why do you feel the need to down grade mine?


To me football is just a game.. I might watch a few games of it during the season and thats it I dont follow it I dont follow players or even keep trake of my favorite teams record. I dont go around to my football fanatic friends that spend nearly every waking moment talking about football during the season and remind them its "just a game" and get a grip when they dont score high in there fantacy football league.

The way people act has nothing to do with the game

[Callavan]

The way people act has nothing to do with the game

No, the way people act tells you whether they can discern the difference between things that matter (i.e., LIFE), and things that don't matter (i.e., football). Some people become so obsessed with the latter that you wonder if they can tell the difference between the two. There's a point where it becomes unhealthy, no matter what the diversion. It may be fine to obsess over a game if that's what's fun for you. Just don't go spitting red-faced into your mic trying to tell me to reroll my character because I don't happen to obsess over whether I wasted a feat taking Power Attack instead of Toughness.

If you want your level of interest respected, then respect the level of interest exhibited by those who play to have their own fun.

[Purgatory]

No, the way people act tells you whether they can discern the difference between things that matter (i.e., LIFE), and things that don't matter (i.e., football). Some people become so obsessed with the latter that you wonder if they can tell the difference between the two. There's a point where it becomes unhealthy, no matter what the diversion. It may be fine to obsess over a game if that's what's fun for you. Just don't go spitting red-faced into your mic trying to tell me to reroll my character because I don't happen to obsess over whether I wasted a feat taking Power Attack instead of Toughness.

If you want your level of interest respected, then respect the level of interest exhibited by those who play to have their own fun.

your lumping everyone into one basket over few isolated personal experiances you have had.

What give you the right to tell people what matters or doesnt matter to them? last I checked no one made you the judge of all things that matters or dont matter...

What matters to one person may not matter to anouther that doesn't nulify the value on what matters to the first person..


You might think your family means everything to you.... Personaly I could care less about your family...
Under your logic that = you must not value your family? and if you still do then something is wrong with you?

[sebastianosmith]

You might think your family means everything to you.... Personaly I could care less about your family...
Under your logic that = you must not value your family? and if you still do then something is wrong with you?

Don't want to be the rhetoric Nazi here but...

1. If you could care less about his family, then you do have some feeling towards them.

2. You can't really apply a definition of his logic that you proscribed and then use that as justification for your argument.

Now, back to the show...

[Kalari]

Sure its a game its meant to be fun and for the most part every one has found their path to it.

But for some they like the thought of contributing vocally when something could affect the game negatively for them. So I say let them speak.

Some people get off mocking others for how they play but they are easily ignored with squelch so let them think they are better with their planned builds and dps the only way they can affect anyone else is if they are allowed to.

Just like in life everyone approaches things differently, Id no sooner tell someone who just thinks of ddo as a few hours of pixels to care then id expect them to tell me dont worry about the latest fixes, nerfs or changes. How I choose to enjoy a game Ive spent 4 years in is my own personal business and like many other things in my life I will not debate over I will just let kindly advice on how I should approach things roll off my back. Your passions maybe different and thats your right but to tell others "its just a game" like its a mantra we should all share isn't be your own person and let others be theirs.

[Purgatory]

Sure its a game its meant to be fun and for the most part every one has found their path to it.

But for some they like the thought of contributing vocally when something could affect the game negatively for them. So I say let them speak.

Some people get off mocking others for how they play but they are easily ignored with squelch so let them think they are better with their planned builds and dps the only way they can affect anyone else is if they are allowed to.

Just like in life everyone approaches things differently, Id no sooner tell someone who just thinks of ddo as a few hours of pixels to care then id expect them to tell me dont worry about the latest fixes, nerfs or changes. How I choose to enjoy a game Ive spent 4 years in is my own personal business and like many other things in my life I will not debate over I will just let kindly advice on how I should approach things roll off my back. Your passions maybe different and thats your right but to tell others "its just a game" like its a mantra we should all share isn't be your own person and let others be theirs.

agreed with most of what you saying here

But I dont realy think people are getting off on mocking others, well some do yes not that many but the core problem is that most people have a hard time dealing with rejection and interprit that rejection as being mocked in someway and instead of dealing with the rejection positivly and turing it into a learning experiance to improve on they lash out and turn it into a negative one.

[Kalari]

agreed with most of what you saying here

But I dont realy think people are getting off on mocking others, well some do yes not that many but the core problem is that most people have a hard time dealing with rejection and interprit that rejection as being mocked in someway and instead of dealing with the rejection positivly and turing it into a learning experiance to improve on they lash out and turn it into a negative one.

yeah Ive seen it before instead of moving on they think I should have been accepted ignoring the other groups out there that might take them in. Me if I get turned down I do something else or form my own. No ones way of play has changed my style in all these years. I still play my favorite races and classes and enjoy the game at the pace I am comfortable. And ddo has plenty of ways to make sure you can have as much fun as ya want (not directing that statement at you Purg)

Seriously you want to build your own way crawl a dungeon or zerg it the game is pretty solid for doing so they give us ways to make our own groups and play with who we want to. Its a great way to have your own fun. I dont worry about groups I can or cannot hang with as long as Im happy with the care I put into my characters thats all that matters to me.

[Quetzacoala]

Well, from what I have read here, I obviously did not do the best job of explaining what I am coming from.

If you play casually, that is fine. If you grind for the best gear and try to maximize your character potential, that is also fine. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with either of these play styles.

What I simply cannot stand is people who criticize those who do not optimize their characters... I believe a previously mentioned example of this was an elf fighter. Sure they may not be the best race, but if you have fun, who cares? I briefly played an elf arcane archer a while back, and was constantly told that elf was a poor choice due to the -2 to constitution... I must agree that something like a half elf with rogue dille is better dps, but I simply enjoy playing elves *shrugs*. Its things like this which annoy me :D

Of course, I think it is a great thing to tell them that other races may have better potential damage wise or such, but do not simply insult their character.

[Kalari]

Well, from what I have read here, I obviously did not do the best job of explaining what I am coming from.

If you play casually, that is fine. If you grind for the best gear and try to maximize your character potential, that is also fine. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with either of these play styles.

What I simply cannot stand is people who criticize those who do not optimize their characters... I believe a previously mentioned example of this was an elf fighter. Sure they may not be the best race, but if you have fun, who cares? I briefly played an elf arcane archer a while back, and was constantly told that elf was a poor choice due to the -2 to constitution... I must agree that something like a half elf with rogue dille is better dps, but I simply enjoy playing elves *shrugs*. Its things like this which annoy me :D

Of course, I think it is a great thing to tell them that other races may have better potential damage wise or such, but do not simply insult their character.


As some one who plays elves a lot I will tell you it doesnt change. I know what my elves bring to groups my guild appreciates them and we raid every week and epics as well but to many they see the race and automatically assume that I am a one hit knock out type and a mana drain.

I have long since given up and take peoples "advice" on my builds in one ear and out the other. I know I could no quicker stop their unsolicited advice any more then they can tell me how to max out my builds. As long as you are happy with what youve done it really doesnt matter what other players think.

[Emizand]

Hey Kahlari, the diplomatic corp missed out on you. You thought about a future in politics?

Seriously though nice to hear a calm and logical voice in the heat of debate.

+1

[kaboro]

I just think some people take this game too seriously, and need to be reminded it is about fun :D

Sounds good in theory but....
If you dont take the game seriously how are you gonna have fun?

[Battlehawke]

While I agree with you that this is a game for fun. There is nothing fun about same lame person who could care less about being cooperative with the party. Someone who intentionally "tests" things at the risk of the party losing out on xp and loot after doing a quest for an hour or so. Someone who intentionally goes down a hallway when they are told not too or aggros a monster the party is not prepared for, then says, its "just a game".

If you want to have fun and go against the norm or play against what the party wants, then play on your own, or post your own LFM and put in notes "just for fun, be crazy" or something wild like that, but don't waste my time.

Some peoples fun is sometimes a waste of time for everyone else involved.

Thanks

[Tarnoc]

just my guess

but ide have to say the OP gets called out for having 260hps ...

just my honest opinion

[Callavan]

your lumping everyone into one basket over few isolated personal experiances you have had.

What give you the right to tell people what matters or doesnt matter to them? last I checked no one made you the judge of all things that matters or dont matter...

What matters to one person may not matter to anouther that doesn't nulify the value on what matters to the first person..


You might think your family means everything to you.... Personaly I could care less about your family...
Under your logic that = you must not value your family? and if you still do then something is wrong with you?

You might want to go back and read for comprehension. This has nothing to do at all with what I said. Not even remotely. When I say real life matters more than a game, you can cry foul all you want... but society at large will tell you the same thing: If you ever get to the point where the game matters more than your actual home life, "ur doin' it rong."

Who made me the judge? Nobody had to. It's common sense.

[Quarterling]

Actually, it's like my job.

I farm and farm and farm plat all day, and then I... do not sell it for real money because it would break the TOS and EULA.

[Quetzacoala]

just my guess

but ide have to say the OP gets called out for having 260hps ...

just my honest opinion

To be honest, I have more than that :D

While I have only capped one character to date, a drow favored soul, he has around 360hp, and I am currently working on my con op item.

[Vint]

actually, It's My Hobby.

+1

[Purgatory]

You might want to go back and read for comprehension. This has nothing to do at all with what I said. Not even remotely. When I say real life matters more than a game, you can cry foul all you want... but society at large will tell you the same thing: If you ever get to the point where the game matters more than your actual home life, "ur doin' it rong."

Who made me the judge? Nobody had to. It's common sense.

Ok thanks for letting me know what I should be doing with my time.

Better yet could you please tell me exatly what I should be doing with every aspect of my life So i can do it your way you know the right way.

next thing you know your going to tell me what religion I should beleive in, Who I should mate with, and how long I am alowed to live.

I'm glad you know what is best for me....

Id rather die fighting against this kind of ideolgy before I would allow myself to be controled by it.

[Vint]

What I simply cannot stand is people who criticize those who do not optimize their characters...

What I simply can't stand is children. The wife and I are do not and are not having them. I would save my two Beagles lifes before 99% of any human being. That is my opinion.

If your opinion is that this is just a game, remeber that there are many of us that do take it seriously.

[Callavan]

Ok thanks for letting me know what I should be doing with my time.

Better yet could you please tell me exatly what I should be doing with every aspect of my life So i can do it your way you know the right way.

next thing you know your going to tell me what religion I should beleive in, Who I should mate with, and how long I am alowed to live.

I'm glad you know what is best for me....

Id rather die fighting against this kind of ideolgy before I would allow myself to be controled by it.

Interesting. The 'ideology' you're describing has nothing at all to do with anything I've posted. Once again, try reading what's actually being said rather than projecting your weird fantasies into a reinterpretation of other peoples' commentary. I never said I know what's best for you. But I guarantee your health is more important than a game, that your source of income (assuming you have one) is more important than a game, and your family (again, assuming you have one to speak of) is more important than a game. Tell me it isn't if you want, but we both know which hole you're blowing it out of at that point.

lol, whatever

[Eleia]

Ok thanks for letting me know what I should be doing with my time.

Better yet could you please tell me exatly what I should be doing with every aspect of my life So i can do it your way you know the right way.

next thing you know your going to tell me what religion I should beleive in, Who I should mate with, and how long I am alowed to live.

I'm glad you know what is best for me....

Id rather die fighting against this kind of ideolgy before I would allow myself to be controled by it.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry that you would get this crazy over the THOUGHT your family means more than a game.

That you would DIE FIGHTING to support the THOUGHT that your FAMILY is less important than a GAME.

That RELIGIOUS FREEDOM is the same thing as PLAYING A GAME.

0.0

Someone needs to make an AA for gamers.

[Hutoth]

Thread title reminded me of Bill Hicks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0

[Zorack00]

http://blog.codefront.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/outside_mmorpg.jpg

[Algreg]

You often hear "it´s just a game" when people ruin some fun or actually grieve other players, which I am not saying you are. The problem with this notion is, there are real people playing in front of the screen, investing real emotions into the game and not to mention the least their precious time. So even if the world isn´t real, the experience is. So if you ruin the fun for people, insult them or steal their time in the game its no different from doing so in the office, at the bar or in the bus (which again, I am not implying, the OP is actually doing). But I agree, there is some difference between being yelled at by another player and, lets say, your girlfriend in real life.

[Vellrad]

Ok thanks for letting me know what I should be doing with my time.

Better yet could you please tell me exatly what I should be doing with every aspect of my life So i can do it your way you know the right way.

next thing you know your going to tell me what religion I should beleive in, Who I should mate with, and how long I am alowed to live.

I'm glad you know what is best for me....

Id rather die fighting against this kind of ideolgy before I would allow myself to be controled by it.

1.
Church of Diego Maradona
2.
Girl next door
3. 66 years and 6 monts

You're welcome :D

[Grace_ana]

Id rather die fighting against this kind of ideolgy before I would allow myself to be controled by it.

Hyperbole much?

[Drekisen]

I always play for fun and very rarely try to grind out crazy gear and stuff.....funny thing is a lot of times I do a lot better than the person who spent 1000 hours grinding for uber gear......while 75% of the stuff I am playing in is not even named items LOL.

[Callavan]

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Someone needs to make an AA for gamers.

:)They did. (http://www.olganon.org/):)

[monsoon22]

For some it is just a game. For others it is not, it is their source of living (Turbine employees, those unfortunates who earn enough to eat plat farming, etc), a valuable diversion from otherwise troublesome lives (an abused child/spouse for instance), a possibly unhealthy obsession, and a whole myriad of other things. Ultimately this game, like anything else in life, is many different things for many different people. That you find it fits one particular way into your life is your concern. However, just like real life you have to deal with the way it fits into theirs as well. Posting a dictat about how it should be for others is only going to justifiably warrant attack.

To OP, if you have a problem with how people feel you should play your game (and rightfully so), you have the tools to deal with it by squelching them and not grouping. Just like you would in real life in a simillar situation. You are no more in the right for trying to tell them how to approach this game, or anything else for that matter, then they are you.

[Grimdiegn]

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[Purgatory]

For some it is just a game. For others it is not, it is their source of living (Turbine employees, those unfortunates who earn enough to eat plat farming, etc), a valuable diversion from otherwise troublesome lives (an abused child/spouse for instance), a possibly unhealthy obsession, and a whole myriad of other things. Ultimately this game, like anything else in life, is many different things for many different people. That you find it fits one particular way into your life is your concern. However, just like real life you have to deal with the way it fits into theirs as well. Posting a dictat about how it should be for others is only going to justifiably warrant attack.

To OP, if you have a problem with how people feel you should play your game (and rightfully so), you have the tools to deal with it by squelching them and not grouping. Just like you would in real life in a simillar situation. You are no more in the right for trying to tell them how to approach this game, or anything else for that matter, then they are you.

This is exactly the point. It might be just a game that is a small deverersion a few hours a mounth for some, others It could be there reason for wakeing up in the morning. Neither have the right to judge the other. do your thing and they will do there thing not like either going to change for the other in anyways so get off the imaginary pedalstals and live your life the way you see fit and others will live there lifes the way they see fit. What I notice is when people start telling others how to live there life there usualy something very wrong with theres own to begin with and are trying to mask it by pointing out what they think is wrong with others. I promise you your life is not so much more wonderful then mine you have dont any right to tell me what to do with it.

[Battlehawke]

I can remember growing up with this "special" people who just played the games to "play". They were usually distracting to everyone else or just boring. I find no fun nor challenge in playing a game with people who aren't trying to win......

[Chaos000]

You often hear "it´s just a game" when people ruin some fun or actually grieve other players, which I am not saying you are. The problem with this notion is, there are real people playing in front of the screen, investing real emotions into the game and not to mention the least their precious time. So even if the world isn´t real, the experience is. So if you ruin the fun for people, insult them or steal their time in the game its no different from doing so in the office, at the bar or in the bus (which again, I am not implying, the OP is actually doing). But I agree, there is some difference between being yelled at by another player and, lets say, your girlfriend in real life.

I echo this sentiment. Yes I agree it's just a game. Yes I play the game to relax. The moment I feel like I'm required to "do work" (aka spend resources to heal a gimp, have to do a bulk of the damage on the boss) for the sake of someone else's enjoyment there's going to be a little resentment towards the individual spoiling my "game" as a result from it.

Will nerd rage make me feel better? probably but I'm not going to do it.

... depending on my mood I *might* let one guy be the last to heal.

As a sidenote: All the characters I play either is considered a "healing class" or have sufficient umd to scroll and/or wand heal. As a general rule I don't heal if I have aggro. Unless dps is way overgeared I usually always have aggro.