View Full Version : Weapon Shipsment... its still a 10minute quest....
Bloodstealer
09-20-2011, 08:06 PM
Don't know what all the hype is about...
Weapon Shipment is still the 10minute quest it always was only now instead of waitng around for mobs to appear.. you just stand around cheering on your summoned Djinn while your soulstones hover in the ether.......
WOW what a revamp... trundle thro the tunnels eliminating the Orthons and Devils in quick fashion just like you used then enter the battlefield, kill the ones in disguise then BAMMMM take a back seat and dream of the old days and what that Bauble used looked like in the chest, while the hundreds of arrows and spells go wizzing over the top of your soul stones....What a rush, go tieflings, Go Tieflings, GO TIEFLINGS!!!!! :eek:
Jaid314
09-20-2011, 11:03 PM
plenty of people have done it just fine. perhaps you need a change of tactics.
and in any event, i will gladly take 10 minutes of fun over 10 minutes of mind-numbing boredom anyways.
xveganrox
09-21-2011, 12:52 AM
PUG'd it on elite after U11 not quite knowing what to expect and very nearly wiped. The end fight was frantic and fun, and there was extra treasure :) plus the end-chest (NOT the optional) dropped a Mad Lute for me!
red_cardinal
09-21-2011, 12:54 AM
plenty of people have done it just fine. perhaps you need a change of tactics.
and in any event, i will gladly take 10 minutes of fun over 10 minutes of mind-numbing boredom anyways.
/signed
ainmosni
09-21-2011, 01:02 AM
PUG'd it on elite after U11 not quite knowing what to expect and very nearly wiped. The end fight was frantic and fun, and there was extra treasure :) plus the end-chest (NOT the optional) dropped a Mad Lute for me!
Oh my. I now have a reason to run this quest again.
Grace_ana
09-21-2011, 01:34 AM
Just ran it tonight for the first time since the update. We wiped on elite (had huge monstrous lag issues that contributed), but we completed it on hard even though our fighter DC'd halfway through. It was definitely crazy and a lot more fun. I like anything that takes a bit more communication and teamwork, as opposed to "just toss a BB, I'll be back in a bit, need coffee."
Candela90
09-21-2011, 01:48 AM
Hm... I done this new version yestarday. And what i think of it?
1. Its more difficult, REALLY more - earlier i could solo hard, sometimes elite.
Now i could have problems with normal. But here drops bauble, one of the ost usefull things for casters. It ant be so easy, can it? (shame that they didnt increased drop rate of bauble, i ran it 20-24 times and never se any bauble in chest - for me or someone else)
2. Its more interesting
these all succubs are... great :D I love them.Its more interesting too look at. Maybe we wil gewt a chance to play a succub as a race? :D Id be really delighted.
To sum up, i think changes are more good than bad.
Good changes:
- more interesting quest
- more difficult (its 19 lvl, come on, on elite 21, it cant be so easy)
- need balanced party
- still is possible to be done not so hardly
Bad changes:
- not increased drop rate of bauble
- now we get some lagging in quest
Moltier
09-21-2011, 01:54 AM
10 minutes of fun and action?
Before the update, it felt like 30minutes of waiting/sleeping.
Seikojin
09-21-2011, 02:02 AM
Hm... I done this new version yestarday. And what i think of it?
1. Its more difficult, REALLY more - earlier i could solo hard, sometimes elite.
Now i could have problems with normal. But here drops bauble, one of the ost usefull things for casters. It ant be so easy, can it? (shame that they didnt increased drop rate of bauble, i ran it 20-24 times and never se any bauble in chest - for me or someone else)
2. Its more interesting
these all succubs are... great :D I love them.Its more interesting too look at. Maybe we wil gewt a chance to play a succub as a race? :D Id be really delighted.
To sum up, i think changes are more good than bad.
Good changes:
- more interesting quest
- more difficult (its 19 lvl, come on, on elite 21, it cant be so easy)
- need balanced party
- still is possible to be done not so hardly
Bad changes:
- not increased drop rate of bauble
- now we get some lagging in quest
Wait, so three chests, about 3 times the chance of a drop, and it is still not increased? :D
Candela90
09-21-2011, 02:08 AM
Wait, so three chests, about 3 times the chance of a drop, and it is still not increased? :D
Nope, cause Mysterious Bauble drops only in the END CHEST. There is only one end chest ^^ So nothing changed.
Forzah
09-21-2011, 02:29 AM
Nope, cause Mysterious Bauble drops only in the END CHEST. There is only one end chest ^^ So nothing changed.
Huh... the release notes said that named items could drop from any of the chests...
Candela90
09-21-2011, 02:30 AM
Hm, really? That great. Still. Im kinda afraid of doing opts now... At least when im the only one healer in party xD.
But im glad. I just checked DDO Wiki, guessed it would be updated. Was wrong.
TheDearLeader
09-21-2011, 02:34 AM
Nope, cause Mysterious Bauble drops only in the END CHEST. There is only one end chest ^^ So nothing changed.
On Normal.
On Elite, there are Three.
Luxx0r
09-21-2011, 02:35 AM
Huh... the release notes said that named items could drop from any of the chests...
Has anyone seen a bauble in one of the two side chests? (I'm supposing the central one is the old one)
We run it a couple of times in elite and we did not see anything relevant (bauble, arrow, boot mats) in the side chests. I know is not a great sample, so more data would be nice.
Bloodstealer
09-21-2011, 04:33 AM
plenty of people have done it just fine. perhaps you need a change of tactics.
and in any event, i will gladly take 10 minutes of fun over 10 minutes of mind-numbing boredom anyways.
Lol I think you missed the hint of sarcasm in my post... maybe this will help.. /
SARCASM ON :d
But I totally agree with ya its way more fun now there is a big step up in challenge and much less boredom.
That was my first run since the update and yeah it lasted 10mins, much soulstone hugging and certainly new tactical approach needed... but with all the increase of difficulty it was so refershing to hear 6 grown men crying with laughter as we all saw our red bars dwindle one by one all be it quickly.... we got well and truly owned... GO TIEFLINGS !
Micron
09-21-2011, 04:58 AM
Has anyone seen a bauble in one of the two side chests? (I'm supposing the central one is the old one)
We run it a couple of times in elite and we did not see anything relevant (bauble, arrow, boot mats) in the side chests. I know is not a great sample, so more data would be nice.
I got an Iron in what I think was the left side chest last night, on a Hard run.
Valakai
09-21-2011, 05:25 AM
Soloed it on hard with my gimpy Wiz18/Fgt1/Rog1 build with no resource usage. Took me rather long though. Did it with a pug on elite and we did wipe on the orthons on first try. We revisited our tactics and completed it succesfully on next run with only 1 death. It is no longer a snooze fest but it is quite doable. Of course the 3 chests dropped.....crappuccino. Oh I think the one on the right dropped the lute for one of us.
ag_gair_eos_ard
09-21-2011, 05:45 AM
Did three elite runs.
Then quit the quest of boredom. What you all call fun, I call same tactics with more mobs. You still AOE everything, you still use the same CC. You still kill most of it one wail, implosion now is pretty guaranteed to kill 9 mobs instead of three or four if the caster is being lazy... and that is about it.
Yay Turbine!! You are masters of your craft.
Terebinthia
09-21-2011, 07:01 AM
I think I've seen the right hand chest drop the Lute 3 or 4 times now. But ingredients only twice (I think one came from middle chest one from right chest). No Bauble or Arrowhead yet.
Easily soloable by my ungeared FvS on normal. 3 manned on elite, doable, 6 man hard, doable. 6 man elite, a good challenge :D
shadowsaun
09-21-2011, 07:12 AM
I got the lute and had to pass to a bard...seems the lute is hot these days!
And for the record, the quest is not that bad, you just have to actually play less casual and have a team that will follow the strat (which we all know)
Kaldais
09-21-2011, 08:59 AM
After ransacking elite twice since Update comes out, that's 16 times, x3chests, then inviting 5 more people to loot the chests. 16x3x6 = 288 chests.. I have gotten 0 bauble, 1 arrowhead and 4 mad lutes.... Do Turbine just hate my character?
Mindspat
09-21-2011, 09:19 AM
After ransacking elite twice since Update comes out, that's 16 times, x3chests, then inviting 5 more people to loot the chests. 16x3x6 = 288 chests.. I have gotten 0 bauble, 1 arrowhead and 4 mad lutes.... Do Turbine just hate my character?
I got my first Bloodstone about a month ago and I've been playing for years!
Never got a spellstoring ring but have seen it drop once. I've seen the firestorm greaves drop maybe twice. I've seen multiple +2 tomes offered in the same completion reward list from a normal quest. I've gotten 2 large devil scales in the same run, multiple times, then not seen one drop for months. The Ghost of Perdition took about 60-70 runs (right after it launched) doing the optional before I saw a shield piece drop for the first time. It took about 80 TOR runs (right after it launched) for me to get 25 blue scales, including trading, and I've only wore the ugly ass robe in two quests before stashing it away to never be used again.
Because of my experiances I could care less about loot in this game. I don't focus on it and I don't strive to obtain it. The only reason I play this game is for the good times I've had with other's while playing. I login to run the quests to have an adult conversation and a solid laugh. I do not play to grind loot, I play for entertainment.
MrkGrismer
09-21-2011, 09:29 AM
After ransacking elite twice since Update comes out, that's 16 times, x3chests, then inviting 5 more people to loot the chests. 16x3x6 = 288 chests.. I have gotten 0 bauble, 1 arrowhead and 4 mad lutes.... Do Turbine just hate my character?
Yours and mine both. I am at 19 completions (yeah, I'll be going for my 20th completion tonight, won't matter tho...) and no bauble. Most of my other characters have gotten it in less than 5 tries.
Nobody should be sitting there staring at soul stones tho, the quest fails-out when there are no more living players, within a minute I believe.
It is definitely more difficult on normal, not by a lot but enough to be resource intensive. They could half the numbers and it would still be a 'ton of fun'.
It is relatively easy still on casual but it is still kind of annoying because of the large numbers. A slightly smaller number of slightly stronger opponents would be better in my book. But that is just an opinion.
Bloodstealer
09-21-2011, 02:23 PM
Did three elite runs.
Then quit the quest of boredom. What you all call fun, I call same tactics with more mobs. You still AOE everything, you still use the same CC. You still kill most of it one wail, implosion now is pretty guaranteed to kill 9 mobs instead of three or four if the caster is being lazy... and that is about it.
Yay Turbine!! You are masters of your craft.
Well I'm sure we are all bowing to your awesomesauceness... then again you could be just blowing smoke rings.... either way I couldnt really care less tbh. I enjoyed it and find it a big improvement on the previous pike fest...
Of course you most likely never would of come to the forums and express such disdane of the quest pre U11, cos it could yield you easy loot without effort but hey ho, each to their own I guess.
Inferno346
09-21-2011, 02:52 PM
After ransacking elite twice since Update comes out, that's 16 times, x3chests, then inviting 5 more people to loot the chests. 16x3x6 = 288 chests.. I have gotten 0 bauble, 1 arrowhead and 4 mad lutes.... Do Turbine just hate my character?
I have seen one bauble out of 153 elite chests since the update. In total on all my runs on all my characters, including runs before the update, the drop rate has been 1.9%... My guild leader has seen a similar drop rate of 1 per 48 chests.
I'm not sure if all the people who consistently get theirs within five runs are extremely lucky or if we are unlucky.
MrkGrismer
09-21-2011, 03:06 PM
I have seen one bauble out of 153 elite chests since the update. In total on all my runs on all my characters, including runs before the update, the drop rate has been 1.9%... My guild leader has seen a similar drop rate of 1 per 48 chests.
I'm not sure if all the people who consistently get theirs within five runs are extremely lucky or if we are unlucky.
Mixed bag, I got it on the first run on my cleric, within 5 runs on my bard, my wiz is at 19 runs with no luck, and I am not sure what my paladin is at (probably around 8 or so, no bauble, not super important for the paladin, just a 'nice to have').
I stopped doing it on my Rogue because I am afraid I will get it on an early run and it will further bork my wiz.
Flatliner57
09-21-2011, 04:49 PM
I have seen one bauble out of 153 elite chests since the update. In total on all my runs on all my characters, including runs before the update, the drop rate has been 1.9%... My guild leader has seen a similar drop rate of 1 per 48 chests.
I'm not sure if all the people who consistently get theirs within five runs are extremely lucky or if we are unlucky.
I'm curious, is that 1.9% per person or per group? I've recently been soloing this quest on my fvs under the impression that it was about a 2% drop per char, but I am 0/40 on bauble and if you count runs I've done with others I'm more like 0/90+. If its 2% per group of 6 I feel like I might as well give up since I really don't feel like soloing another 200 runs :/
Rawel_San
09-21-2011, 04:58 PM
I love the quest I just want it to not scale on elite according to number of people in. If you want to go get
the three chests you should have to kill the 6 man version solo not just solo it with 1/6th the number of mobs.
Keep the scaling on normal for sure and probably on hard.
Loved the rush of finding my torc at 40/80 after first 3 waves when I was solo with 5 people piking. By the
end of the quest everything I was wearing was worn at least and epic helm of frost (gfl item for me) and
my balance boots were broken. Loved it and I think it's still quite completable with 6 reasonably geared people
that use actual tactics instead of going and expecting to sleep through it.
Meat-Head
09-21-2011, 05:00 PM
It's harder with bigger parties. It scales a LOT.
Soloed no norm with my main (see Kashil in sig) without much of a problem.. Of course, that's due in part to bramble casters which I love a little more each day. A million archers all doing 0-2 damage+conOpp = did a fly just land on me? I don't even have TORC yet. A divine with a torc would eat that **** UP!
Duoed with a pale master level 17 wiz, we completed norm without too much trouble but by the very end of quest our mana/clickies were tapped out fully.
Wiped 3-4 times on hards/leets with ppl that weren't really preparred or weren't efficient with cc.
Bottom line: fun quest now.
countfitz
09-21-2011, 06:24 PM
Since the bauble is like one of the most important items in the game, I'm torn on whether the quest should be hard to, you know, reflect that, or easy because everyone has to do it before they start hard quests, since it's one of those prereq items just to be a decent player. Torn, but don't really care, since all but one of my toons got a bauble before the changes.
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