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rebedo
09-20-2011, 08:39 PM
so at work today was thinking about a high healling amp build. It is a varient of the solar phioenix build.
It is a rf point build with 3 past lifes as pally.
Human 12monk/6pal/2fighter
healing amp is as follows
30% from human
30% monk enhancement
10% hod
25% jidz in fire stance
15% plly passive past lifes
10% dt robe
20% dt robe
30% epic claw gloves
10% guild ship buff
A littlw gear depending and past lifes but very do able.
Diyon
09-20-2011, 08:52 PM
so at work today was thinking about a high healling amp build. It is a varient of the solar phioenix build.
It is a rf point build with 3 past lifes as pally.
Human 12monk/6pal/2fighter
healing amp is as follows
30% from human
30% monk enhancement
10% hod
25% jidz in fire stance
15% plly passive past lifes
10% dt robe
20% dt robe
30% epic claw gloves
10% guild ship buff
A littlw gear depending and past lifes but very do able.
I'm not completely certain, but I believe the past life feats count as 5%, 5%, 5%, and not 15%.
LordTigerDawn
09-20-2011, 08:53 PM
I also believe that you can take helf monk dil, and the 20% helf and 20% helf monk healing amp will be greater than the 30% from just being human.
wigthemaster
09-20-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm not completely certain, but I believe the past life feats count as 5%, 5%, 5%, and not 15%.
they should stack with each other and then apply multiplicative
DragonTroy
09-20-2011, 08:56 PM
you should also look into getting the finger necklace, which i think should give you 10% of the healing amp you already have, so that would be another 50% healing amp, which would be a huge boon to that number
flaggson
09-20-2011, 08:59 PM
I also believe that you can take helf monk dil, and the 20% helf and 20% helf monk healing amp will be greater than the 30% from just being human.
Not really... Monk 30% won't stack with helf monk 20%
rebedo
09-20-2011, 09:06 PM
From my understanding of the necklace is it stacks I a wierd way as the 10% is not multiv but added to your base which ona fleshy would not be a great amout, could be wrong though.
voodoogroves
09-20-2011, 09:15 PM
Not really... Monk 30% won't stack with helf monk 20%
Are you sure on this? Did this change?
Xenostrata
09-20-2011, 09:21 PM
Not really... Monk 30% won't stack with helf monk 20%
True, but a Helf monk dilly with 20% could take 18 paladin levels for HotD 10x10x10.
nolaureltree000
09-20-2011, 09:22 PM
Are you sure on this? Did this change?
my current pally is a solar phoenix variant and iirc from when i was building him, helf dilys wouldnt stack with a toon of the same class. it wouldnt let you double dip, so to speak. i could very well be wrong though.
rebedo
09-20-2011, 09:22 PM
The elf deli monk 20% should not stack with the monk class 30% considering they are both monk class based
rebedo
09-20-2011, 09:49 PM
Yes you could go a 1x pally/2 monk split for 541%, but scince healling amp gets rounded down. I would think monk might be a better choice for light monk healing, but just my thoughts.
t0r012
09-20-2011, 10:08 PM
I just started a pure human monk healing amp build last week. going swimmingly at level 12 with 25% jiz, 30% monk and 20% human and 10% ship already. just enough to put me at the magic 2-4 FoLs. still trying to track down a finger neck and farm out some vampiric stonedusts. this bugger is tough to kill I'll say that. Even going str based and not dex/wis for uber AC it diesn't matter. stuff dies fast and i heal a lot.
rebedo
09-20-2011, 10:13 PM
Also instead of 2 fighter you could go 2 arty and take arty wand ans scroll mastery for a 30% boost to wands and heal scrolls.
weewoo0
09-20-2011, 10:15 PM
hmmmm helf hotd 3/monk 2 w/ 3 paladin pls....
20% helf
20% monk dilletant
10% hotd tier
10% ^
10% ^
5% paladin pl
5% ^
5% ^
+10% finger necklace (additive to anything added before it so you put it on then your gear)
10% item
20% ^
30% epic gloves of the claw
25% jidz tet'ka
10% ship
=547.11% heal amp!
flaggson
09-20-2011, 10:39 PM
Are you sure on this? Did this change?
Fairly sure... And I don't think it's a change.... Monk and monk are not "supposed" to stack.... If it is operating in a way that allows it to stack I can say with some self assurance that it is not wai.
flaggson
09-20-2011, 10:42 PM
True, but a Helf monk dilly with 20% could take 18 paladin levels for HotD 10x10x10.
Yep very true :)
Ra'ehd
03-15-2012, 12:36 PM
The elf deli monk 20% should not stack with the monk class 30% considering they are both monk class based
I know this is kind of a necro, but Half Elf + Half Elf Monk + HotD3 does outclass Human + Monk + HotD1.
The first is 20% 20% 30%, while the latter is 30% 30% 10%. Additively they are the same, but multiplicatevly..
1.2*1.2*1.3= 1.872 = 187% Healing Amp
1.1*1.3*1.3= 1.859 = 185% Healing Amp.
2% difference.. Not huge, but definitely different. I guess you'd really have to base the decision on normal build decisions.. like action points. half elf18/2 pally monk, costs for human 2 + monk 2 amp enhancements = 6 + 6 = 12 action points, plus the requirements of HotD 3. human 14/6 monk/pally, costs for human 3 + monk 3 = 12 + 12 = 24, plus hotd 1 requirements.
Seems like Helf Pally is the way to go for best healing amp. 2% more healing amp (more, with more healing amps), costs 12 less ap. 18/2 or 19/1 for max healing amp with Jidz Tetka, but honestly the 20 pally capstone imo is better than 25% more healing amp that costs an item slot.
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