Question on Echoes of Power...

[J1NG]

1. What is pre-requirements needed in order for you to get Echoes of Power?

2. When do you get Echoes of Power going?

3. Can anything prevent Echoes of Power activating?

Just want to clarify that I've found a bug is all and not having one of those sleepy misreading moments. Had a look in the wiki, but that was woefully lacking in information.

J1NG

[Lithic]

Echoes of Power is given to classes with the magical training feat at lvl 1. This includes wizard, sorc, cleric, FvS, and possibly artificer (though I haven't checked this last one).

Echoes will activate when you are at 11 or fewer spell points.

Nothing can prevent it from turning on, unless you are dead or at 12 or more spell points.

[J1NG]

Echoes of Power is given to classes with the magical training feat at lvl 1. This includes wizard, sorc, cleric, FvS, and possibly artificer (though I haven't checked this last one).

Echoes will activate when you are at 11 or fewer spell points.

Nothing can prevent it from turning on, unless you are dead or at 12 or more spell points.

Thanks, I've found a bug then. Calling it in. :)

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Oh wait, do you have to take Wizard at Level 1 (as in proper level 1, not Wizard 1 at Level 9 for example) to get that? Or can you get it at any Wizard 1?

J1NG

[Sarisa]

An important note is that Bards do NOT get Echo's of Power.

[jaegarnel]

Thanks, I've found a bug then. Calling it in. :)

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Oh wait, do you have to take Wizard at Level 1 (as in proper level 1, not Wizard 1 at Level 9 for example) to get that? Or can you get it at any Wizard 1?

J1NG
You can get it provided you have any levels in the classes mentioned. It doesn't matter how many levels you have or when you took them.

Taking 1 level of those classes for that feat is a bad idea however, it may be helpful at low levels, but any class with a blue bar and no magical training (artificer, bard, paladin and ranger) will benefit more from a 20th level of their class than from 1 level of wizard, sorc, cleric or FvS imo.

[J1NG]

Thanks all, I have a confirmed bug then, but uncertain on reproduction, but it has been sent in to be looked at.

J1NG

[MrkGrismer]

and possibly artificer (though I haven't checked this last one).

Yes they do, and it is enough to cast the level 2 spell Lightning Ball (handy).

[ReaperAlexEU]

Thanks all, I have a confirmed bug then, but uncertain on reproduction, but it has been sent in to be looked at.

J1NG

if the bug is no echos if you didnt take caster as lvl1 then cant you just knock up a few lvl2 chars to confirm the bug? or given vet status same thing with lvl4 chars. good luck with the bug hunt, i hope you can reproduce it 100% of the time, always makes the dev's lives easier

[Jaid314]

you might need to log out then log back in to get echoes to work.

[J1NG]

Tried the Log out and back in, no deal.

I do however have free slots in character creation now that I am VIP (for now). Going to go quickly create a toon now to simulate the issue, but I think I already know where the issue is.

Back later with information hopefully.

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Performed some minor testing:

Toons in Town, <12 SP = No Echoes. Normal
Toons in Quest, <12 SP = Echoes of Power. Normal
Toons in Raid, <12 SP = Echoes of Power. Normal
Toons in Epic Raid, <12 SP = Echoes of Power. Normal

From that, it would be me that was having a moment. But I will also add that the toon in question is... Of a peculiar build. 1 Rogue, 9 Wizard, 10 Monk. And previously went through a few (3-4 I think) LR's (some +5's) to get right. Then before the Update 11 release, I LR'd it again to add Open Lock skills. Messed up some other stuff, so had to LR again last night (before today's maintenance) added Open Lock skills with previously working stuff. Anyway, last night after the LR was when I found the no Echoes of Power issue, and I had performed the mandatory relog, restart client, etc to double check. Didn't work (last night). Unsure if any of those 5-6 LR's previously coupled with the fact the last two happened before Updates/Maintenance had any bearing on that, but that was why I brought up the question of Echoes of Power.

Seems all good now, but those LR'ing might want to keep an eye out on their casters. That's not something I'm going to test as it costs me DDO points for nothing now. Maybe someone in the actual test, beta or Internal servers would like a go.

J1NG

[MrkGrismer]

Yeah, no Echos in town. I believe it is a safety measure. ;)

[J1NG]

Yeah, no Echos in town. I believe it is a safety measure. ;)

I know, but the issue I had was in a quest/raid (Vault of Night specifically, VoN5). Did not activate at all. Restarted client, relogged, etc. Went back in, went in on Epic, got SP < 12 and nothing. Issue was raised last night before the maintenance and after a LR, which repeated a 99% identical LR a week before. And that's likely the issue, as like everyone else, I can't reproduce the issue bar having to LR again.

And as said prior, I am NOT spending more DDO points on testing...

Give me access to Mournlands instead and let me go nuts on testing random stuff out instead. :p

J1NG