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Unreliable
09-15-2011, 01:10 AM
Hey guys, so I hear everyone talking about how VIP is a waste of money, and I have my own personal beliefs about that (which is one reason I stay VIP, and I am NOT going to be talking about that in this thread) but also I decided to do a little bit of math behind it was well, its pretty simple so here it goes. (I hope I did this right)

So if you get the new $99 for 12 months vip thats 8.25 a month. You get 500 points a month, so thats essentially $8.25 - $3.62 (value of the points if you buy during a 6900 for $50 sale)

So thats $4.63 a month you are paying for the access to all adventure packs (including adventure packs when they are newly released)

$4.63 = about 638 Turbine Points every month ''rent'' you are paying for access to each adventure pack (and again, this is assuming doing all math when on the 6900 point sales) - What I am trying to say here is if you did not pay for VIP you could use your money to buy aprox 638 TP during a 6900 sale each month.

So for 638 Turbine Points a month you can enter every adventure pack and dont have to worry about buying them when they come out.

This means in order for ViP to be worthwhile turbine needs to release a vale, or GH quality adventure pack every 1.25-1.5 months for the ViP cost to be justified, because as a premiun player you are going to have buy that pack as soon as you can in order to have the same (or similar) benefits as a paying ViP.

I dunno, I thought it was kind of interesting. I am going to put all my personal feelings on if its worth it or not behind and just step away at the moment :) Let everyone else do the drama.

** Just a side note - that all these numbers would be different if you used the standard 5000 TP for $50 instead of 6900 for $50 - AND that I did not factor in the 3 ''summer'' months of double TP from ViP... So yeah, that would change things a little (In favor of the ViPs) - AND I did not include any chance that turbine would release NON Adventure pack features to DDO such as races, storage space, classes, etc... which again, if turbine did implement these things would drive the value of ViP up.. but it hasnt happened recently and dosent seem to be happening soon so I did not include those things.

Dunklerlindwurm
09-15-2011, 01:24 AM
Yes VIP is still a good thing for anyone whos new and/or doesnt own alot or any adventure packs.

For me who owns every single adventure pack (except 3-Barrel-Cove) its a waste. I can even enter any Quest on Elite because of my TRs.

So basicly if i buy VIP i pay the cost for the 500 TP i get and thats all i get. Not a good deal or?

Unreliable
09-15-2011, 01:26 AM
Yes VIP is still a good thing for anyone whos new and/or doesnt own alot or any adventure packs.

For me who owns every single adventure pack (except 3-Barrel-Cove) its a waste. I can even enter any Quest on Elite because of my TRs.

So basicly if i buy VIP i pay the cost for the 500 TP i get and thats all i get. Not a good deal or?

Agreed.

Vormaerin
09-15-2011, 01:31 AM
For me who owns every single adventure pack (except 3-Barrel-Cove) its a waste. I can even enter any Quest on Elite because of my TRs.

?

Well, duh... the whole point of VIP is NOT buying the adventure packs, shared bank, character slots, etc. If you've spent the thousands of points on owning all the content AND you pay to be VIP, you are paying twice for the game. Even Turbine doesn't expect you to do that (which is why you can't buy things VIPs already have while a VIP).

ssg2wo
09-15-2011, 01:58 AM
Well, duh... the whole point of VIP is NOT buying the adventure packs, shared bank, character slots, etc. If you've spent the thousands of points on owning all the content AND you pay to be VIP, you are paying twice for the game. Even Turbine doesn't expect you to do that (which is why you can't buy things VIPs already have while a VIP).

Turbine does expect you to pay twice as a VIP. Look at the Artificer class.

Lithic
09-15-2011, 06:42 AM
VIP was a poorly chosen name. The month to month payment is good for those trying out the game and may not be around a year or two down the road. Premium is the way to go if you WILL be around a year or more. Especially if you have the patience to buy most things when on sale, or if there are packs you don't care about at all.