brainstorm: 10 pala 9 dark monk 1 fighter - share your opinions pls.

[mrszabo]

Hi Adventurers!

I would like to share my idea about a particular dark monk/pala version. I havent play with this build, but i have some fear the usefulness at endgame. Please share your opinions:

adv.:
- GS. longswords option as ki weapons (instead handwraps)
- also bows as ki weapons
- Dark monk Touch of Death
- Stunning Blow
- Fighter Haste Boost I
- Monk Improved Evasion
- Pala self healing/offensive dps enchantments
- high Pala saves

disadv.:
- need 32 pts.
- no stunning fist
- only two tier 1 prest.
- only two lvls spells
- low hp to tank

I dont know the AC of this class, but cant be bad


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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 10 Paladin \ 9 Monk)
Hit Points: 304
Spell Points: 181
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 18
Will: 18

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 15 22
Dexterity 15 18
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 14 18
Charisma 14 18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 25
Bluff 2 4
Concentration 5 24
Diplomacy 2 4
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 2 4
Heal 2 4
Hide 2 4
Intimidate 2 4
Jump 6 20
Listen 2 4
Move Silently 2 4
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 0
Spot 2 4
Swim 2 7
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device 4 15

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I


Level 5 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Whirling Steel Strike
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I


Level 7 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Light I


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
Enhancement: Porous Soul


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 13 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Paladin Redemption I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Light II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

[MRH]

Edited : sorry was thinking of diff splash

Some of the pal/monk/x posted on the forums are nice

GL on your build

[Kahath]

I believe you can't mix pal/monk due to alignment restrictions.......

You can. Paladin needs Lawful Good, and monk needs any Lawful alignment.

[MRH]

Thx Kahath was thinking of diff splash....

OP : here is a link for 12/6/2 looks pretty good aswell

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=338559

[mrszabo]

Thx Kahath was thinking of diff splash....

OP : here is a link for 12/6/2 looks pretty good aswell

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=338559

Thx the link, i have already checked it and this inspired me to share my idea which is different in many essential steps:
my build has -3 monk (i cant see the usefullnes +3 lvls monk) +4 pala (dps enchantments/raise dead ability, lvl 2 spells) -1fighter (same as monk lvls)

[JeffreyGator]

Pally Monks get impressive healing through healing amp and being light sided.

Dark monks already get short swords through ninja which is possibly better than the longswords - but you only use ToD from Monk 9 with fists not long or short swords. This means that the shortswords don't get used as much -especially after the banishing/smiting changes.

Also the last I checked the ToD save is based on monk level which for level 9 means that paladin critical smites will hit for more than the ToDs.

Stunning fist may work better for you than stunning blow and as mentioned I'm not sure the longswords would be worth it.

Best of luck.

[unbongwah]

- GS. longswords option as ki weapons (instead handwraps)
Bad idea, IMHO: handwraps are still higher DPS w/out wasting two feats; and ToD & Stunning Fist only work with wraps. Besides, you are (or ought to be) a ninja; use short swords if you're desperate for a non-wrap weapon. [Actually, I think it'd be fun to use Banishers etc.]

my build has -3 monk (i cant see the usefullnes +3 lvls monk)
It gets you 3rd-tier stances, 2nd-tier PrE (Ninja II adds +2D6 SA & free Imp Crit w/short swords), and a bump in base unarmed dmg. Overall I'd say it's pretty sweet.

[Balkas]

While slightly different in build structure, you may want to check out The Blasphemous Abomination (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=296731). Same basic premise, but with a bit more synergy.

You could grab the Paladin Dilettante if you want higher saves.

As has been said, ToD only works with fists.