Crafting XP table for U11?

[gloopygloop]

I'd like to know what my crafting level will be after U11. Does anyone have a crafting XP table to show what XP is required for each level yet?

[Gkar]

I'd like to know what my crafting level will be after U11. Does anyone have a crafting XP table to show what XP is required for each level yet?

Yes, you will be levels 4/99/2

That help?

[gloopygloop]

Yes, you will be levels 4/99/2

That help?

Yes, thank you very much. I thought that my crafting levels would all go up a bit, but now I see that my initial impression was incorrect.

Virtual +1 since I can't pass rep.

[Vanshilar]

I'm still busy with stuff but this one's a quickie. The crafting XP per level will be something like:



Level Current New
1 0
2 12
3 27
4 44
5 64
6 86
7 111
8 138
9 168
10 200
11 235
12 276
13 324
14 379
15 442
16 513
17 593
18 682
19 781
20 890
21 1010
22 1141
23 1284
24 1439
25 1607
26 1788
27 1983
28 2192
29 2416
30 2655
31 2910
32 3181
33 3469
34 3774
35 4097
36 4438
37 4798
38 5176
39 5548
40 5938
41 6348
42 6748
43 7168
44 7598
45 8038
46 8488
47 8948
48 9418
49 9898
50 10388
51 10888
52 11398
53 11918
54 12448
55 12988
56 13538
57 14098
58 14668
59 15248 10948
60 15838 11390
61 16438 11840
62 17048 12297
63 17668 12762
64 18298 13234
65 18938 13714
66 19588 14201
67 20248 14696
68 20918 15198
69 21598 15708
70 22288 16225
71 22988 16750
72 23698 17282
73 24418 17822
74 25148 18369
75 25888 18924
76 26638 19486
77 27398 20056
78 28168 20633
79 28948 21218
80 29738 21810
81 30538 22410
82 31348 23017
83 32168 23632
84 32998 24254
85 33838 24884
86 34688 25521
87 35548 26166
88 36418 26818
89 37298 27478
90 38188 28145
91 39088 28820
92 39998 29502
93 40918 30192
94 41848 30889
95 42788 31594
96 43738 32306
97 44698 33026
98 45668 33753
99 46648 34488
100 47638 35230
101 48638 35980
102 49648 36737
103 50668 37502
104 51698 38274
105 52738 39054
106 53788 39841
107 54848 40636
108 55918 41438
109 56998 42248
110 58088 43065
111 59188 43890
112 60298 44722
113 61418 45562
114 62548 46409
115 63688 47264
116 64838 48126
117 65998 48996
118 67168 49873
119 68348 50758
120 69538 51650
121 70738 52550
122 71948 53457
123 73168 54372
124 74398 55294
125 75638 56224
126 76888 57161
127 78148 58106
128 79418 59058
129 80698 60018
130 81988 60985
131 83288 61960
132 84598 62942
133 85918 63932
134 87248 64929
135 88588 65934
136 89938 66946
137 91298 67966
138 92668 68993
139 94048 70028
140 95438 71070
141 96838 72120
142 98248 73177
143 99668 74242
144 101098 75314
145 102538 76394
146 103988 77481
147 105448 78576
148 106918 79678
149 108398 80788
150 109888 81905


The current XP is based on what's on ddowiki.com. The green entries are actual data from Lamannia, the rest is interpolation/extrapolation (it's just a regular parabola). The new XP is around 70-75% of the current XP for each level. This means that level-wise, you'll get around a 15% boost to your craft XP level with the update. Some sample levels are below:



Levels on live and Lamannia
current new
60 69
70 80
80 92
90 103
100 115
110 127
120 138
125 144


As always since this is interpolation/extrapolation, I'd encourage people on Lam to check their XP values against the first chart to verify it. And yeah, to a certain extent we won't really know until it goes live.

[BoBo2020]

I'm still busy with stuff but this one's a quickie. The crafting XP per level will be something like: ...


Thank you thank you thank you!

This is exactly what i was looking for.

If you are an upper level crafter, logic says level now before the update (I'm at 112/106/112 right now and plan to get all of them to 115 if at all possible - the bump will take me to 133, leaving a very small number of shards for crafting xp after that point).

The boost to crafting levels is AWESOME but it will also catapult you past many good xp shards.

A lot of folks will stall out for awhile after this update due to the low number of upper level craftable shards and high cost of those shards.

[gloopygloop]

The crafting XP per level will be something like:

Thank you very much for posting this. Having a rough outline of what my crafting levels will look like after U11 helps me figure out how much of my essences to use up before Monday.

[Setin_Myways]

What is the advantage to craft now rather than after the update? Are they lowering the exp needed for a level but upping the number of mats needed for shards?

I hope this isn't one of these trade off things that benefit the folks that have already grinded alot and further increases the difficulty for casual to moderate players.

D'oh! the number of mats needed for higher lvl shards is greater than the shards i could make for exp now at less cost... I hope it is not anything more than that.

[Entelech]

+1 for the data, thanks.

[gloopygloop]

What is the advantage to craft now rather than after the update? Are they lowering the exp needed for a level but upping the number of mats needed for shards?

I hope this isn't one of these trade off things that benefit the folks that have already grinded alot and further increases the difficulty for casual to moderate players.

D'oh! the number of mats needed for higher lvl shards is greater than the shards i could make for exp now at less cost... I hope it is not anything more than that.

The part in red is the part that I'm looking at for crafting before Monday. Just trying to squeeze in a little more XP before the essence per XP cost shoots through the roof for me.

[Eladrin]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:

Level XP For Level
1 0
2 12
3 26
4 41
5 58
6 76
7 96
8 117
9 140
10 164
11 190
12 220
13 254
14 293
15 337
16 387
17 443
18 505
19 573
20 648
21 730
22 819
23 915
24 1019
25 1131
26 1252
27 1382
28 1521
29 1669
30 1827
31 1995
32 2173
33 2361
34 2560
35 2770
36 2992
37 3226
38 3472
39 3730
40 4001
41 4285
42 4582
43 4892
44 5214
45 5544
46 5881
47 6226
48 6578
49 6938
50 7305
51 7680
52 8062
53 8452
54 8849
55 9254
56 9666
57 10086
58 10513
59 10948
60 11390
61 11840
62 12297
63 12762
64 13234
65 13714
66 14201
67 14696
68 15198
69 15708
70 16225
71 16750
72 17282
73 17822
74 18369
75 18924
76 19486
77 20056
78 20633
79 21218
80 21810
81 22410
82 23017
83 23632
84 24254
85 24884
86 25521
87 26166
88 26818
89 27478
90 28145
91 28820
92 29502
93 30192
94 30889
95 31594
96 32306
97 33026
98 33753
99 34488
100 35230
101 35980
102 36737
103 37502
104 38274
105 39054
106 39841
107 40636
108 41438
109 42248
110 43065
111 43890
112 44722
113 45562
114 46409
115 47264
116 48126
117 48996
118 49873
119 50758
120 51650
121 52550
122 53457
123 54372
124 55294
125 56224
126 57161
127 58106
128 59058
129 60018
130 60985
131 61960
132 62942
133 63932
134 64929
135 65934
136 66946
137 67966
138 68993
139 70028
140 71070
141 72120
142 73177
143 74242
144 75314
145 76394
146 77481
147 78576
148 79678
149 80788
150 81905

[dTarkanan]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:

Level XP For Level
1 0
2 12
3 26
4 41
5 58
6 76
7 96
8 117
9 140
10 164
11 190
12 220
13 254
14 293
15 337
16 387
17 443
18 505
19 573
20 648
21 730
22 819
23 915
24 1019
25 1131
26 1252
27 1382
28 1521
29 1669
30 1827
31 1995
32 2173
33 2361
34 2560
35 2770
36 2992
37 3226
38 3472
39 3730
40 4001
41 4285
42 4582
43 4892
44 5214
45 5544
46 5881
47 6226
48 6578
49 6938
50 7305
51 7680
52 8062
53 8452
54 8849
55 9254
56 9666
57 10086
58 10513
59 10948
60 11390
61 11840
62 12297
63 12762
64 13234
65 13714
66 14201
67 14696
68 15198
69 15708
70 16225
71 16750
72 17282
73 17822
74 18369
75 18924
76 19486
77 20056
78 20633
79 21218
80 21810
81 22410
82 23017
83 23632
84 24254
85 24884
86 25521
87 26166
88 26818
89 27478
90 28145
91 28820
92 29502
93 30192
94 30889
95 31594
96 32306
97 33026
98 33753
99 34488
100 35230
101 35980
102 36737
103 37502
104 38274
105 39054
106 39841
107 40636
108 41438
109 42248
110 43065
111 43890
112 44722
113 45562
114 46409
115 47264
116 48126
117 48996
118 49873
119 50758
120 51650
121 52550
122 53457
123 54372
124 55294
125 56224
126 57161
127 58106
128 59058
129 60018
130 60985
131 61960
132 62942
133 63932
134 64929
135 65934
136 66946
137 67966
138 68993
139 70028
140 71070
141 72120
142 73177
143 74242
144 75314
145 76394
146 77481
147 78576
148 79678
149 80788
150 81905

Successful roll on Contact Other Planes, excellent!

[Wizzly_Bear]

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[Dolphious]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:

Level XP For Level
1 0
2 12
3 26
4 41
5 58
6 76
7 96
8 117
9 140
10 164
11 190
12 220
13 254
14 293
15 337
16 387
17 443
18 505
19 573
20 648
21 730
22 819
23 915
24 1019
25 1131
26 1252
27 1382
28 1521
29 1669
30 1827
31 1995
32 2173
33 2361
34 2560
35 2770
36 2992
37 3226
38 3472
39 3730
40 4001
41 4285
42 4582
43 4892
44 5214
45 5544
46 5881
47 6226
48 6578
49 6938
50 7305
51 7680
52 8062
53 8452
54 8849
55 9254
56 9666
57 10086
58 10513
59 10948
60 11390
61 11840
62 12297
63 12762
64 13234
65 13714
66 14201
67 14696
68 15198
69 15708
70 16225
71 16750
72 17282
73 17822
74 18369
75 18924
76 19486
77 20056
78 20633
79 21218
80 21810
81 22410
82 23017
83 23632
84 24254
85 24884
86 25521
87 26166
88 26818
89 27478
90 28145
91 28820
92 29502
93 30192
94 30889
95 31594
96 32306
97 33026
98 33753
99 34488
100 35230
101 35980
102 36737
103 37502
104 38274
105 39054
106 39841
107 40636
108 41438
109 42248
110 43065
111 43890
112 44722
113 45562
114 46409
115 47264
116 48126
117 48996
118 49873
119 50758
120 51650
121 52550
122 53457
123 54372
124 55294
125 56224
126 57161
127 58106
128 59058
129 60018
130 60985
131 61960
132 62942
133 63932
134 64929
135 65934
136 66946
137 67966
138 68993
139 70028
140 71070
141 72120
142 73177
143 74242
144 75314
145 76394
146 77481
147 78576
148 79678
149 80788
150 81905


Wow! thanks for the info :)

[Auran82]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:

Level XP For Level
1 0
2 12
3 26
4 41
5 58
6 76
7 96
8 117
9 140
10 164
11 190
12 220
13 254
14 293
15 337
16 387
17 443
18 505
19 573
20 648
21 730
22 819
23 915
24 1019
25 1131
26 1252
27 1382
28 1521
29 1669
30 1827
31 1995
32 2173
33 2361
34 2560
35 2770
36 2992
37 3226
38 3472
39 3730
40 4001
41 4285
42 4582
43 4892
44 5214
45 5544
46 5881
47 6226
48 6578
49 6938
50 7305
51 7680
52 8062
53 8452
54 8849
55 9254
56 9666
57 10086
58 10513
59 10948
60 11390
61 11840
62 12297
63 12762
64 13234
65 13714
66 14201
67 14696
68 15198
69 15708
70 16225
71 16750
72 17282
73 17822
74 18369
75 18924
76 19486
77 20056
78 20633
79 21218
80 21810
81 22410
82 23017
83 23632
84 24254
85 24884
86 25521
87 26166
88 26818
89 27478
90 28145
91 28820
92 29502
93 30192
94 30889
95 31594
96 32306
97 33026
98 33753
99 34488
100 35230
101 35980
102 36737
103 37502
104 38274
105 39054
106 39841
107 40636
108 41438
109 42248
110 43065
111 43890
112 44722
113 45562
114 46409
115 47264
116 48126
117 48996
118 49873
119 50758
120 51650
121 52550
122 53457
123 54372
124 55294
125 56224
126 57161
127 58106
128 59058
129 60018
130 60985
131 61960
132 62942
133 63932
134 64929
135 65934
136 66946
137 67966
138 68993
139 70028
140 71070
141 72120
142 73177
143 74242
144 75314
145 76394
146 77481
147 78576
148 79678
149 80788
150 81905


Thats going straight to the pool room. (DDO Wiki)

[TheDearLeader]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:


I could swear I just spotted a Dev giving out information.

I need to go lie down.

[xxScoobyDooxx]

Thats going straight to the pool room. (DDO Wiki)

ah the serenity

[voodoogroves]

I could swear I just spotted a Dev giving out information.

I need to go lie down.

You're crazy. Stop trolling.

Now get back in the padded room!

[Solmage]

Successful roll on Contact Other Planes, excellent!

Ok, best comment so far :)

Also thanks for the extrapolation, and also thanks for the release of the actual info :)

[sirgog]

Very good extrapolation you've got there.

Here's the complete crafting XP chart:

Level XP For Level
1 0
2 12
3 26
4 41
5 58
6 76
7 96
8 117
9 140
10 164
11 190
12 220
13 254
14 293
15 337
16 387
17 443
18 505
19 573
20 648
21 730
22 819
23 915
24 1019
25 1131
26 1252
27 1382
28 1521
29 1669
30 1827
31 1995
32 2173
33 2361
34 2560
35 2770
36 2992
37 3226
38 3472
39 3730
40 4001
41 4285
42 4582
43 4892
44 5214
45 5544
46 5881
47 6226
48 6578
49 6938
50 7305
51 7680
52 8062
53 8452
54 8849
55 9254
56 9666
57 10086
58 10513
59 10948
60 11390
61 11840
62 12297
63 12762
64 13234
65 13714
66 14201
67 14696
68 15198
69 15708
70 16225
71 16750
72 17282
73 17822
74 18369
75 18924
76 19486
77 20056
78 20633
79 21218
80 21810
81 22410
82 23017
83 23632
84 24254
85 24884
86 25521
87 26166
88 26818
89 27478
90 28145
91 28820
92 29502
93 30192
94 30889
95 31594
96 32306
97 33026
98 33753
99 34488
100 35230
101 35980
102 36737
103 37502
104 38274
105 39054
106 39841
107 40636
108 41438
109 42248
110 43065
111 43890
112 44722
113 45562
114 46409
115 47264
116 48126
117 48996
118 49873
119 50758
120 51650
121 52550
122 53457
123 54372
124 55294
125 56224
126 57161
127 58106
128 59058
129 60018
130 60985
131 61960
132 62942
133 63932
134 64929
135 65934
136 66946
137 67966
138 68993
139 70028
140 71070
141 72120
142 73177
143 74242
144 75314
145 76394
146 77481
147 78576
148 79678
149 80788
150 81905


So basically, instead of 10 level-appropriate shards per level up, we now require 7. I approve.

Wonder how long it will be until Greater Essences start sharply dropping in price as wealthier players get their crafter to the levels that they can craft almost everything they want, and so demand falls?

[Solmage]

So basically, instead of 10 level-appropriate shards per level up, we now require 7. I approve.

Wonder how long it will be until Greater Essences start sharply dropping in price as wealthier players get their crafter to the levels that they can craft almost everything they want, and so demand falls?

I've already seen the prices drop dramatically (small surge in price recently due to the new deadline for U11) but while before the going rate was 500 it is now hovering at 300-250.

[TheDearLeader]

I've already seen the prices drop dramatically (small surge in price recently due to the new deadline for U11) but while before the going rate was 500 it is now hovering at 300-250.

Well I think "Price" here is subjective.

First, we're going to have Price Per Server.

Second, we're going to have Price of AH.

Third, we're going to have Price of Crafter just getting into Greaters.

Fourth, we're going to have Price of what a Crafter will pay after realizing he can't shell out 500 plat per greater, when some formulas take 45+ Greaters per shard. Even at 7 Shards per level, that plat adds up.

There's a lot of perspectives Greater prices can be seen from. I see people posting Greaters on Sarlona AH for 1k each - and they sit there, until they expire. Doesn't mean it's "the price of Greaters", it just means people think too highly of their loot. Like LDS sitting on the AH at 700k.

[Backley]

I lined up the XP charts in Excel, and decided to share my results:

Level old XP New XP old XP's new Level
1 0 0 1 +0
2 12 12 2 +0
3 27 26 3 +0
4 44 41 4 +0
5 64 58 5 +0
6 86 76 6 +0
7 111 96 7 +0
8 138 117 8 +0
9 168 140 10 +1
10 200 164 11 +1
11 235 190 12 +1
12 276 220 13 +1
13 324 254 14 +1
14 379 293 15 +1
15 442 337 16 +1
16 513 387 18 +2
17 593 443 19 +2
18 682 505 20 +2
19 781 573 21 +2
20 890 648 22 +2
21 1010 730 23 +2
22 1141 819 25 +3
23 1284 915 26 +3
24 1439 1019 27 +3
25 1607 1131 28 +3
26 1788 1252 29 +3
27 1983 1382 30 +3
28 2192 1521 32 +4
29 2416 1669 33 +4
30 2655 1827 34 +4
31 2910 1995 35 +4
32 3181 2173 36 +4
33 3469 2361 37 +4
34 3774 2560 39 +5
35 4097 2770 40 +5
36 4438 2992 41 +5
37 4798 3226 42 +5
38 5176 3472 43 +5
39 5548 3730 45 +6
40 5938 4001 46 +6
41 6348 4285 47 +6
42 6748 4582 48 +6
43 7168 4892 49 +6
44 7598 5214 50 +6
45 8038 5544 51 +6
46 8488 5881 53 +7
47 8948 6226 54 +7
48 9418 6578 55 +7
49 9898 6938 56 +7
50 10388 7305 57 +7
51 10888 7680 58 +7
52 11398 8062 60 +8
53 11918 8452 61 +8
54 12448 8849 62 +8
55 12988 9254 63 +8
56 13538 9666 64 +8
57 14098 10086 65 +8
58 14668 10513 66 +8
59 15248 10948 68 +9
60 15838 11390 69 +9
61 16438 11840 70 +9
62 17048 12297 71 +9
63 17668 12762 72 +9
64 18298 13234 73 +9
65 18938 13714 75 +10
66 19588 14201 76 +10
67 20248 14696 77 +10
68 20918 15198 78 +10
69 21598 15708 79 +10
70 22288 16225 80 +10
71 22988 16750 81 +10
72 23698 17282 83 +11
73 24418 17822 84 +11
74 25148 18369 85 +11
75 25888 18924 86 +11
76 26638 19486 87 +11
77 27398 20056 88 +11
78 28168 20633 90 +12
79 28948 21218 91 +12
80 29738 21810 92 +12
81 30538 22410 93 +12
82 31348 23017 94 +12
83 32168 23632 95 +12
84 32998 24254 96 +12
85 34688 24884 99 +14
86 34688 25521 99 +13
87 35548 26166 100 +13
88 36418 26818 101 +13
89 37298 27478 102 +13
90 38188 28145 103 +13
91 39088 28820 105 +14
92 39998 29502 106 +14
93 40918 30192 107 +14
94 41848 30889 108 +14
95 42788 31594 109 +14
96 43738 32306 110 +14
97 44698 33026 111 +14
98 45668 33753 113 +15
99 46648 34488 114 +15
100 47638 35230 115 +15


How to read this:
My crafter has level ~65 in all three schools. Old level 65 maps to new level 75, a gain of 10 levels.

[TheDearLeader]

I lined up the XP charts in Excel, and decided to share my results:
.

Nice. I did something similar to compare the Sarlona crafters, but this is much simpler than my comparing level by level.