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Drak
08-26-2011, 08:47 AM
FVS was the last class i enjoyed playing. Now because some over powered over tr'd people killed your new raid so fast, yet again, making use of what you added to the game, (tr, fvs, wings etc) you decided to unequivocally nerf me. I am left with posssibly quitting this game. Every time i made a character I enjoyed playing you have done something to make them less, and this is the last straw.
I WILL stop my multiple subscriptions if you bring this 5/day wings to live servers.
I am sorry to my guildies, and anyone else who likes to run with me, but enough nerfing is enough.

protokon
08-26-2011, 08:49 AM
nooo drak you can't leave :(

rjbutchko
08-26-2011, 08:58 AM
Dont worry, there will be wing reset pots available in the DDO store.

anatoli11
08-26-2011, 08:58 AM
I'm sure Turbine will rescind their changes immediately so you can continue to enjoy playing!

Drak
08-26-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm sure Turbine will rescind their changes immediately so you can continue to enjoy playing!

If they dont change it, im gone. if they do change it I may stay. Either way I win. Real life might get more attention.

wax_on_wax_off
08-26-2011, 09:02 AM
FVS was the last class i enjoyed playing. Now because some over powered over tr'd people killed your new raid so fast, yet again, making use of what you added to the game, (tr, fvs, wings etc) you decided to unequivocally nerf me. I am left with posssibly quitting this game. Every time i made a character I enjoyed playing you have done something to make them less, and this is the last straw.
I WILL stop my multiple subscriptions if you bring this 5/day wings to live servers.
I am sorry to my guildies, and anyone else who likes to run with me, but enough nerfing is enough.

A fellow aussie! Would you stay if they gave us our own Australian Server? Otherwise, can I haz your stuff?

Ironforge_Clan
08-26-2011, 09:04 AM
Otherwise, can I haz your stuff?

No his stuff stays his for when he cools off and returns and if he is certain he isn't returning it stays in guild.

Ungood
08-26-2011, 09:05 AM
FVS was the last class i enjoyed playing. Now because some over powered over tr'd people killed your new raid so fast, yet again, making use of what you added to the game, (tr, fvs, wings etc) you decided to unequivocally nerf me. I am left with posssibly quitting this game. Every time i made a character I enjoyed playing you have done something to make them less, and this is the last straw.
I WILL stop my multiple subscriptions if you bring this 5/day wings to live servers.
I am sorry to my guildies, and anyone else who likes to run with me, but enough nerfing is enough.

You might want to cancel your sub anyway and go premium, it is a better deal. And Turbine does not really care about the VIP bundle anyway, or the people that pay. so you may as well save some money.

Drak
08-26-2011, 09:21 AM
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Drak
08-26-2011, 09:50 AM
btw. If you are in the boat of Weapon shipment will be faster, sorry your wrong like i was till i tried it.
Bauble farming just got even worse than it already was.

moorewr
08-26-2011, 09:57 AM
If they dont change it, im gone. if they do change it I may stay. Either way I win. Real life might get more attention.

That's a healthy attitude. :)

Are the changes live on Lamannia now?

The last version I saw - the rolling timer, a la Smite Evil, looks tolerable to me. You get short bursts of continuous wings.. and the lag doesn't kick in until you have burned through all your charges..

Of course, on the flip side I think taking away some winging ability is not-fun, and I wish Turbine wasn't in the business of not-fun.

somenewnoob
08-26-2011, 09:59 AM
Learnin to fly......but I aint got wings......coming down.....is the hardest thing......

moorewr
08-26-2011, 10:01 AM
Learnin to fly......but I aint got wings......coming down.....is the hardest thing......

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake these broken wings.. and learn to fly againnnn....

somenewnoob
08-26-2011, 10:01 AM
Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake these broken wings.. and learn to fly againnnn....

ha! Even better!

Thebeest
08-26-2011, 10:19 AM
No his stuff stays his for when he cools off and returns and if he is certain he isn't returning it stays in guild.

lol, can't help but read this in an over-protective mother voice!

simulated conversation using same voice:

Non legion friend of Drak's: "Drak, wanna join my party?" (spoken in Vent or shared channel)

Ironforge Clan: "No, Drak has a guild raid in 2 hours, he needs his rest now!"

Non legion friend of Drak's: "ummm...ok, how bout tomorrow?"

Ironforge Clan: "We'll see!"

Drak: *silence*


Anyway, whole post meant in fun, gl drak with whatever you decide to do.

Ironforge_Clan
08-26-2011, 10:22 AM
lol, can't help but read this in an over-protective mother voice!

simulated conversation using same voice:

Non legion friend of Drak's: "Drak, wanna join my party?" (spoken in Vent or shared channel)

Ironforge Clan: "No, Drak has a guild raid in 2 hours, he needs to get drunk now!"

Non legion friend of Drak's: "ummm...ok, how bout tomorrow?"

Ironforge Clan: "We'll see!"

Drak: "More Beer, mate!"
Anyway, whole post meant in fun, gl drak with whatever you decide to do.

Fixed it for you! :D

Thebeest
08-26-2011, 10:25 AM
lol, that is better!

FuzzyDuck81
08-26-2011, 10:29 AM
I wish i could fly
right up to the sky
but i cant

Bunker
08-26-2011, 11:19 AM
To fight change is a loosing battle. I say embrace the change. And if the change ends up too drastic, they will rethink the change and change it again.

And just send Mothergoose all your gear already! :D

-Bunk

MsEricka
08-26-2011, 02:01 PM
Can I has your stuff?

gildorxix
08-27-2011, 04:23 AM
I was concerned about my future in this game if they were limiting the use of wings to 5x/rest but the regen of 1 per 15 sec. should be enough to keep me playing. Don't know for sure til I try it out but I can't remember a time where I needed more than 6 in a row to survive something or get anywhere.

Caseas
08-27-2011, 04:29 AM
If they dont change it, im gone. if they do change it I may stay. Either way I win. Real life might get more attention.

Don't let them win, Drak!

I was going to say you should play a few more classes instead of sweating it over a FvS thing (cuz I admit, some of them monk nerfs hurt a bit) but, then I was like, "this is Drak. Duh. He has a brazilian characters!"

So, all I can suggest is to roll up an artificer or two and go all out on them; but, don't quit! Don't let the man take you down like that.

Nysrock
08-27-2011, 04:31 AM
I think this, just like every other nerf-bat hit, will cause less impact then everyone thinks.

Changes to TWF.....people still use TWF effectively.
Changes to Banishers, etc....people still use them.

So lets just see how this will actually work out before we start hollering that the sky is falling yet again. :)

Nysrock
08-27-2011, 04:33 AM
Don't let them win, Drak!

I was going to say you should play a few more classes instead of sweating it over a FvS thing (cuz I admit, some of them monk nerfs hurt a bit) but, then I was like, "this is Drak. Duh. He has a brazilian characters!"

So, all I can suggest is to roll up an artificer or two and go all out on them; but, don't quit! Don't let the man take you down like that.

You do know that Artificers are going to be available via DDO store only at first and will only be unlockable by favor after U12?

Caseas
08-27-2011, 04:36 AM
You do know that Artificers are going to be available via DDO store only at first and will only be unlockable by favor after U12?

Yes, absolutely. Am I supposed to assume who will or will not dish out the cash to roll up the new class? I know I will; I was merely suggesting a way to numb the pain of losing wings.

DeltaBravo
08-27-2011, 03:55 PM
If the wings matter for you then thats all that matters. And to all those that says cry baby and so. When you have been in this game just ½ the time drak have, iam sure you will see how frustraing it is that the toon you have been working on gear planned, done 100+ of all raid competions got perfect epic gear and all the tomes you want. just so the next day you wake up and see that your toon is not gonna be worth a S**t any moe becoruse we think you need a nerf. That is a not funny to anyone. Call it cry baby for complaining about it. but to complain is better then to accept it all. you know maybe someone actully saw the post and rethink on it.

Sure lets make some SUPER HYBER NEW GREENSTELL LOOKALIKE WEAPONS THAT DOES: ZILLION OF DMG. Yeah.. But then we will have to nerf FVS wings. Sure that will do the trick :-)

Drak
08-27-2011, 09:36 PM
After extensive testing I have decided it isnt as bad as I originally thought it would be, still not as good as it was though. May not leave over it after all.

Viisari
08-29-2011, 03:42 PM
If the wings matter for you then thats all that matters. And to all those that says cry baby and so. When you have been in this game just ½ the time drak have, iam sure you will see how frustraing it is that the toon you have been working on gear planned, done 100+ of all raid competions got perfect epic gear and all the tomes you want. just so the next day you wake up and see that your toon is not gonna be worth a S**t any moe becoruse we think you need a nerf. That is a not funny to anyone. Call it cry baby for complaining about it. but to complain is better then to accept it all.

This could be a valid point if something like that was happening, but the fact is that even if wings were REMOVED and not just nerfed favored souls would still be awesome.

I don't really care about the nerf, but the amount of whining it has generated is actually pretty amusing to me because it's way off the scale in comparison to the actual nerf being done here.

muffinlad
08-29-2011, 03:47 PM
So, is it 5 charges, recharges every 15 seconds?

Is each charge on a recharge, or 5 charges, 15 one back, 30 seconds next back, 45 seconds next back, etc.?

muffinwingslearningtoflyagiansofree.

Drak
08-30-2011, 06:10 AM
recharge at 1/15sec

moorewr
08-30-2011, 06:24 AM
So, is it 5 charges, recharges every 15 seconds?

Is each charge on a recharge, or 5 charges, 15 one back, 30 seconds next back, 45 seconds next back, etc.?

muffinwingslearningtoflyagiansofree.


recharge at 1/15sec

Yep, just like Exalted Smite.

slimkj
08-31-2011, 04:32 AM
I don't really care about the nerf, but the amount of whining it has generated is actually pretty amusing to me because it's way off the scale in comparison to the actual nerf being done here.
That's because it's relative to how much people enjoyed it, not the impact on balance of the game.

Change impact, balance = low
Change impact, fun = high

So yes, people get annoyed about it.

Hunta-EU
08-31-2011, 05:01 AM
after trying it on lama its not that bad, okay cant exactly spam away to your hearts content but it regens fast enough to be usefull

Viisari
08-31-2011, 05:15 AM
That's because it's relative to how much people enjoyed it, not the impact on balance of the game.

Change impact, balance = low
Change impact, fun = high

So yes, people get annoyed about it.

Well to be honest it IS possible to exploit the heck out of it atm. Not saying that everyone does that but I'd guess that's the reason for the change, I doubt Turbine is changing it just because they see people having fun with wings.

slimkj
08-31-2011, 06:51 AM
Really, a proper exploit? I know you can't say here if so, but I'm surprised. I mean, I know people can use it at the moment to avoid most incoming dmg but that can be addressed without changing wings, by changing the attack types for example.

BrightAsh
08-31-2011, 07:03 AM
This could be a valid point if something like that was happening, but the fact is that even if wings were REMOVED and not just nerfed favored souls would still be awesome.

I don't really care about the nerf, but the amount of whining it has generated is actually pretty amusing to me because it's way off the scale in comparison to the actual nerf being done here.

/signed

Everybody is acting as if FvS just became completely useless. but what really happened is... well... you just can't bouncybouncybouncybouncybouncybouncybounce anymore, instead only 5 times. well 6 even, coz by the time you use your 5th wings, the first one will have regenerated. If anything it made it a bit more challenging to save your wings.... but only a bit

Bummer if you quit DDO for that, looks like you have plenty of chars left.

Clay
08-31-2011, 07:43 AM
FVS was the last class i enjoyed playing. Now because some over powered over tr'd people killed your new raid so fast, yet again, making use of what you added to the game, (tr, fvs, wings etc) you decided to unequivocally nerf me. I am left with posssibly quitting this game. Every time i made a character I enjoyed playing you have done something to make them less, and this is the last straw.
I WILL stop my multiple subscriptions if you bring this 5/day wings to live servers.
I am sorry to my guildies, and anyone else who likes to run with me, but enough nerfing is enough.whiner

Clay
08-31-2011, 07:44 AM
After extensive testing I have decided it isnt as bad as I originally thought it would be, still not as good as it was though. May not leave over it after all.waffler

Clay
08-31-2011, 07:45 AM
;)