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sournote103
08-23-2011, 05:41 PM
I made a Human Ranger, and noticed that one of the builds gave him proficiency with the Khopesh. What would be the lowest-level Khopesh one could find and where could one find it? Thanks.

FrozenNova
08-23-2011, 05:49 PM
All weapons in DDO are randomly generated with varying enhancement values, materials, prefixes and suffixes. The minimum level is based on the result.

The 'lowest level khopesh' would be a blank khopesh, that does literally nothing besides be a khopesh. All loot originates directly from quest chests or end rewards. Most quests do not have specific end rewards, and use random loot similar to chests instead. However, useless things like a weapon with no magical effects are available from various weapon vendors within the city, namely the weapons shops in the harbor and house Deneith - though nobody knows why...

The strongest level one khopesh would be a khopesh of bleeding, available via the crafting system. Bleeding is a suffix adding 1d8 untyped damage to everything that bleeds.

Callavan
08-23-2011, 05:53 PM
Pretty sure I'm finding +1 khopeshes drop from several level 2 quests. Either I've been lucky or they're not rare. That was on a level 4 character, no treasure boost.

dragonmane
08-23-2011, 05:55 PM
In house Denith there is a weapon pawn shop. Look at the lowest level one there and you will find something you can use.

The_Brave2
08-23-2011, 05:56 PM
The above posts are correct, but i find it important to point out that wasting a feat early on for khopeshes is a waste, wait untill you have more TWF feats, untill then THF will still outdps dual wielding Khopeshes while not costing you a feat.

sournote103
08-23-2011, 06:44 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who replied. You have been quite helpful.


The above posts are correct, but i find it important to point out that wasting a feat early on for khopeshes is a waste, wait untill you have more TWF feats, untill then THF will still outdps dual wielding Khopeshes while not costing you a feat.
Secondly, I did not explicitly spend a feat on it. I used a pre-defined ranger build at character creation (I believe it was the tempest build) and happened to notice that it gave me that feat.

WargamerIV
08-23-2011, 08:42 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who replied. You have been quite helpful.


Secondly, I did not explicitly spend a feat on it. I used a pre-defined ranger build at character creation (I believe it was the tempest build) and happened to notice that it gave me that feat.

Even though it is a pre-defined build you are still spending a feat to use Kopheshes, a feat that some feel is wasted.

ReaperAlexEU
08-24-2011, 06:16 AM
the kopesh will serve you well later in the game, for now see it as your preferred option, but not your only option. when you get to the stage of shopping for weapons on the auction house you will find the pesh has a large price tag attached. this often means you cant afford to buy the kopesh with all the nice effects on, but you can afford a different martial weapons with better effects. so stay flexible for now then when you're loaded with plat start to work on replacing your weapons with kopesh's.

you will face many monsters that have damage reduction (yellow damage numbers when you hit them), sometimes they might have so much DR that you're hardly doing any damage. the cheapest way to protect against that situation is to have a good 2-handed weapon. you will of course want to get weapons to bypass the DR, but a 2-hander will help when you're in a quest without the right tools.

this is because a 2-hander adds 1.5 times your STR bonus to damage instead of 1 times for the main and and 0.5 times for the off hand. a 2-hander also adds 10 damage from power attack, as opposed to 5 for a 1-hander. both if this together makes for a much better ability to punch past the DR and do some decent damage. its a great backup while you're building up your weapon sets.

Alabore
08-24-2011, 06:28 AM
The above posts are correct, but i find it important to point out that wasting a feat early on for khopeshes is a waste, wait untill you have more TWF feats, untill then THF will still outdps dual wielding Khopeshes while not costing you a feat.


^^^
Related musing: Khopesh with a seeker as your off-hander can provide good peak dmg, early on, even before ITWF.

Emili
08-24-2011, 06:52 AM
First of all, thanks to everyone who replied. You have been quite helpful.


Secondly, I did not explicitly spend a feat on it. I used a pre-defined ranger build at character creation (I believe it was the tempest build) and happened to notice that it gave me that feat.

I really do not know what the pre-defined builds are spec'd at these days... I will tell you this though it's often better to build the character yourself.


The above posts are correct, but i find it important to point out that wasting a feat early on for khopeshes is a waste, wait untill you have more TWF feats, untill then THF will still outdps dual wielding Khopeshes while not costing you a feat.

Yes at low levels a wizard or sorc use a greataxe and kill things... but...

Really does not matter on a full BaB that much at those lower levels... We one-shot or two-shot things with a Khopesh just as often if not more than a greataxe. Low level everything is both "squishy" and lack AC... When I TR'd my fighter I walked into Kobold's new ringleader on elite ay level two, I was anticipating the ogre expecting a rough fight - a simple kopesh and I was nervously swinging ... when he burst thru the door and walked into it - he died instantly. I felt disappointed, very anti-climactic.

I have a carniflex I keep in bank for leveling... but on TR'ing my Khopesh builds I usually tote a ml 4 keen flametouch Khopesh of pg and a seeker weapon in off hand before they hit level eight... puts even carniflex to shame in a one on one mob basis.

At low levels grab a decent maul for skeles and a good slasher for other things and you're set basically.

Jiirix
08-24-2011, 06:55 AM
On a human tempest khopesh is a good feet, pre-defined path or not.

Emili
08-24-2011, 07:10 AM
On a human tempest khopesh is a good feet, pre-defined path or not.

It is a good feat... I believe the qualm some have here is about taking such early in charater's life.

Fact is however this is a tempest ranger and human at that so ... those early feats are ? I mean obviously he gets his gtwf chain in just from being a ranger. He needs dodge mobility and spring attack to get tempest and you'd figure IC: slash at lvl 9 or 12. Your typical tempest ranger linage would take the weapon earlier as when itwf comes ... you start using it.

... as I said though, there are no mob pre level 10ish with any real hp that you cannot kill just as quickly using a khopesh as you do any two-hander and by then you're most likely starting to use your twf feats more often, He hits gtwf at 11 as a granted ability so by then is a definate. So in that case Khopesh if you plan it should probably be under lvl 12... leaves IC at lvl 9 and PA in the lvl 12 provided toughness fit in earlier also.... if not then pa gets pushed to 15, Is early and I've not much sleep ... scope is however if he's going to start stock piling decent weapons he's going to have to put them somewheres, most likely in his backpack... suggest a decent adam and either pg or holy depending on alignment. If you can find them keen blows things away pre level eight.

Is the author of the OP Khberian?

Miow
08-24-2011, 07:15 AM
the kopesh will serve you well later in the game, for now see it as your preferred option, but not your only option. when you get to the stage of shopping for weapons on the auction house you will find the pesh has a large price tag attached. this often means you cant afford to buy the kopesh with all the nice effects on, but you can afford a different martial weapons with better effects. so stay flexible for now then when you're loaded with plat start to work on replacing your weapons with kopesh's.

you will face many monsters that have damage reduction (yellow damage numbers when you hit them), sometimes they might have so much DR that you're hardly doing any damage. the cheapest way to protect against that situation is to have a good 2-handed weapon. you will of course want to get weapons to bypass the DR, but a 2-hander will help when you're in a quest without the right tools.

this is because a 2-hander adds 1.5 times your STR bonus to damage instead of 1 times for the main and and 0.5 times for the off hand. a 2-hander also adds 10 damage from power attack, as opposed to 5 for a 1-hander. both if this together makes for a much better ability to punch past the DR and do some decent damage. its a great backup while you're building up your weapon sets.

I like scimizzz

Hephaistor
08-24-2011, 07:24 AM
I like scimizzz I like turtles.. i mean Dwarfen Axes. So much Bang for the Buck, opposite to Khopeshes. Bought a +5 metalline dwarfen axe of pure good for 25k from the AH.. you dont get a +1 Khopesh for that. But DAs only make sence with an dwarf, as a human it's better to wait till one can find, craft or afford good kopeshes.

Therigar
08-24-2011, 07:38 AM
I made a Human Ranger, and noticed that one of the builds gave him proficiency with the Khopesh. What would be the lowest-level Khopesh one could find and where could one find it? Thanks.

Try looking in the House D arms shop called "Dragon Tooth Arms." They sell +1 weapons. Rasmussen, the kobold, sells +1 khopeshes for <250 plat.

Emili
08-24-2011, 07:45 AM
I like scimizzz

This http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/bflat01/DDo/EmisScimitar.jpg
believe or not got me noted as a decent killer at level four in elite stormcleave early January 2006...

and laters at level eight... In tears of drakon in on elite it was a +5 adamantine Khopesh ... and I was toting a shield around at the time too. When the cleric said "WOW you guys are making this look easy." The Barb in group said "Yes someone has major whackage but it isn't me :( ... he told the others to look the kill count and they "said Emilee what are you using?" ;) 'course back in that time was high + wide crit range weapons blew out many extra procs the mob as you may know sported a reasonable AC in those days.

Emili
08-24-2011, 07:57 AM
I like turtles.. i mean Dwarfen Axes. So much Bang for the Buck, opposite to Khopeshes. Bought a +5 metalline dwarfen axe of pure good for 25k from the AH.. you dont get a +1 Khopesh for that. But DAs only make sence with an dwarf, as a human it's better to wait till one can find, craft or afford good kopeshes.

Daxe are a good weapon... fact is if I had a dwarf I'd use them before I'd use a khopesh. If it were not for the khopesh I'd probably use Daxe and scimis mostly.

I stumbled on the khopesh in beta and thought... how quaint, I initially liked the way it looked and I feated for it, at that time the threat and x were nice but really did not mean that much to a lot of people. We were not really so squeeze out "dps" minded in those days and were more enamored with things like special procs and the ideas of banishers, smiters and vorpal whatevers were the big prizes. For almost a year I was the girl with the "funny" looking swords. ;) so nobody really cared 'bout them except some said they looked "cool".

Here's some trivia... only mention so only being Irish stems a slight of celtic hertiage.

Most celtic weapons at the dawn of the roman empire were a mix of short gladius like weapons to huge nearly unweildly looking blades some well over a metre and a half both straight and curved varieties... and so Caledfwlch (Welsh for excalibur) arguably inherits it's name from two root words caled (hard) and crwm (curves). Not that such ever existed but the modern pictures of celtic welsh Arthurian lore drawn upon things more familiar for thier times. ;)

In Eire we've Caladbolg a sword which spurts lightning belonging to Fergus Mac Roich who chops off the tops of three hills in Meath and Fergus Mac Leti has a sword much like it called Caladhcholg.