something new from lamaland

[destiny4405]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9066/screenshot00006z.jpg

where am i gonna find AP for everything :)

[voodoogroves]

What % is the mastery? Is it the barderific levels?

(not that I'm complaining one way or the other)

[SableShadow]

What % is the mastery? Is it the barderific levels?

(not that I'm complaining one way or the other)

Yah, how big are the bumps?

[destiny4405]

30%/45%/60%/75% not shabby :)

[Bufo_Alvarius]

Now i get it. Rogues will be healing in elite raids. Brilliant turbine!


On a serious note, cool.

[Battlehawke]

Very nice. I'm still an old school ad&d'er who believes rogues should be able to use any wand or scroll with no UMD check..... wow, that was a long time ago.

[Lithic]

30%/45%/60%/75% not shabby :)

For 1/2/3/4 cost right?

Nice! That means I can trade in my 12Ap 30% healing amp human enhancements for 10AP 75% heal scroll amp enhancement.

Or use the 12 AP to get scroll mastery 1-3 (6ap) and healing amp 1-2 (6ap), and end up with 20% human amp and 60% heal scrolls for about the equivalent of 82% healing amp.

Or find an extra 10 AP, use my VOD bracers, tally up 3 pally past life feats, find a 10 and 30% healing amp item to slot in, and end up with 500pt heal scrolls.

[Ookami007]

Turbine seems the master at giving us something we don't need instead of something we do.

We NEED fort bypass APs for the new changes MUCH more than we need this.

[voodoogroves]

tally up 3 pally past life feats

Newb. Don't you have that already?

[TheDearLeader]

Or find an extra 10 AP, use my VOD bracers, tally up 3 pally past life feats, find a 10 and 30% healing amp item to slot in, and end up with 500pt heal scrolls.

Think you meant HoX Bracers. 10% Amp on DTs, 30% on Gloves of the Claw?


Turbine seems the master at giving us something we don't need instead of something we do.

We NEED fort bypass APs for the new changes MUCH more than we need this.

Actually, I'm really stoked about the Wand and Scroll Mastery line, as many of the other Rogues seem to be. Even 1 AP is a smart investment.

I'd prefer that, instead of giving us enhancements, they buffed up Opportunist.

[destiny4405]

I'd prefer that, instead of giving us enhancements, they buffed up Opportunist.

i think they made damage boost affect affect SA damage. with human damage IV and past life clickie, i was testing how high do numbers go. highest damage i saw was 128. other numbers were all 100+ with the exception of few 99s.

[TheDearLeader]

i think they made damage boost affect affect SA damage. with human damage IV and past life clickie, i was testing how high do numbers go. highest damage i saw was 128. other numbers were all 100+ with the exception of few 99s.

Doesn't matter if we don't get that sneak damage as often... I QQ nao. /QQ

[SableShadow]

i think they made damage boost affect affect SA damage. with human damage IV and past life clickie, i was testing how high do numbers go. highest damage i saw was 128. other numbers were all 100+ with the exception of few 99s.

Isn't damage boost 25% on Llama, and the current haste boost 30%? So the change is really only a bump for classes that didn't have a haste boost?

[TheDearLeader]

Isn't damage boost 25% on Llama, and the current haste boost 30%? So the change is really only a bump for classes that didn't have a haste boost?

It also affects Human Versatility, which can be used at the same time as Haste Boost.

But otherwise, yes, it is most beneficial to Damage-Boost classes without Haste Boost... what is that, Barb? Maybe Ranger?

[jcTharin]

I just checked my cleric on Lamannia. she only has 55% bonus with wand and scroll mastery IV. this means a rogue can use heal scrolls better than a cleric can.

and yes i tried resetting my enhancements. it still maxes out at 55%

Not cool.

[brzytki]

Yeah, i've seen the new enhancement lines too. W&S Mastery is really nice but alas it will make me drop some other tasty enhancements on my human assassin to spent those 1/3 APs on it.

And i can confirm Damage Boost affecting SA, tested it on Lama just like Destiny. Can't wait to see the numbers with all boosts active in a raid :P

[Kinerd]

I just checked my cleric on Lamannia. she only has 55% bonus with wand and scroll mastery IV. this means a rogue can use heal scrolls better than a cleric can.

and yes i tried resetting my enhancements. it still maxes out at 55%

Not cool.To be fair, rogues can cast Heal at approximately 0% as well as a cleric can.

[HelvanderSeries6]

Very nice. I'm still an old school ad&d'er who believes rogues should be able to use any wand or scroll with no UMD check..... wow, that was a long time ago.

I am glad I'm not the only one who remembers that. :)

[wolflordnexus]

Yeah, i've seen the new enhancement lines too. W&S Mastery is really nice but alas it will make me drop some other tasty enhancements on my human assassin to spent those 1/3 APs on it.

If you can't find 1 ap for at least the 30% first tier your doing it wrong. Seriously it's that awesome, and this is a huge gain for rogue splashes.

[.Revenga.]

It also affects Human Versatility, which can be used at the same time as Haste Boost.

But otherwise, yes, it is most beneficial to Damage-Boost classes without Haste Boost... what is that, Barb? Maybe Ranger?


Oho, im liking this combo, different timers ftw.

More effective heal scrolls are really nice aswell, it was the only reason i have all the healing amp gear. It's not really useful at end game when clr's overheal your 400-500hp's easily, just the self healing gets a nice boost.

[brzytki]

If you can't find 1 ap for at least the 30% first tier your doing it wrong. Seriously it's that awesome, and this is a huge gain for rogue splashes.

Yes, I agree that it's a huge gain.

All i'm saying is that i'll need to drop SB IV, Haste Boost IV, Heal Amp I, STR +1, CON +1, Xtra Action Boost or HV IV in order to put 1 or 3 APs in it. You need 41 APs to get Assassin III, capstone and 2nd tier of Toughness, so that leaves u with 39 to spend and u didn't even touch Haste Boosts, SB, HV, Extra Boosts, Heal Amp, Human Adaptabilities, not to mention other flavor enhancement lines like Faster Sneaking or Wrack Construct.

It's just there aren't any 1AP-worth enhancements in my build that i could freely place in this line.

[Aerendil]

Rogues can now, for a mere 1 AP, boost their Heal scrolls from doing 110 hp per scroll to 143 for a mere 1 AP (not counting any Healing Amp. you may have), and people complain?

I don't get it.

Yes, there are numerous other issues that still need to be addressed with the Rogue class, but still, don't look a gift horse in the mouth, y'know?

[Rydin_Dirtay]

erg if this makes it live, I will have to figure out what to swap to free an AP or 2 or 3. Of course I'd rather be trashkilling than hjealing but hey. It's a nice enh line.

[Mercureal]

For those of us who splash rogue, any idea of the levels at which the enhancements are available?