PBS + deadly weapons = *3 damage?

[wax_on_wax_off]

So PBS and deadly weapons both add +1 weapon damage.

Does this mean that an epic hellfire crossbow will do 6d12 damage/hit? Has anyone tested to see if it is *3 or if it does in fact *2*2 instead for 8d12?

6d12 seems quite considerable. Even 6d8 from a greensteel heavy repeater is quite formidable coupled with insightful damage and other bonuses.

Add Sniper Shot from Deepwood Sniper for +1 threat range and you'll have some massive crits and increased PBS range :)

[destiny4405]

im also curious about that. what i wanted to say is, you can't have deadly weapons spell and another pre, cause earliest you can get it is lvl 16.

[wax_on_wax_off]

im also curious about that. what i wanted to say is, you can't have deadly weapons spell and another pre, cause earliest you can get it is lvl 16.

True, but you just know that those Shroud pugs will wait for hours to get an artificer in the group who could then buff the crazy flavor build with it ...

[Aesop]

Judging by the way things are listed the +1s are +1 of base

Base: 1d8
+1: 2d8
+1: 3d8

Base: 2d6
+1: 4d6
+1: 6d6

Aesop

[wax_on_wax_off]

Or a greensteel great crossbow for 3d8*3 for 9d8, 18d8 on a critical.

Or an epic hellfire crossbow for 2d12*3 for 6d12, 12d12 on a critical.

Some decent dps numbers there, especially when you account for inspired damage and so forth.

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Or a greensteel great crossbow for 3d8*3 for 9d8, 18d8 on a critical.

Or an epic hellfire crossbow for 2d12*3 for 6d12, 12d12 on a critical.

Some decent dps numbers there, especially when you account for inspired damage and so forth.

that depends if the spells/feats are multiplied by crits.... it could just be 8d12, im sure if they actually were doubled by crits. you'd see artis using nothing but IC:Ranged or keened Greatbows with deadly weapons on and always within PBS range... since PBS's range was increased from 30 to 45 it makes it a lot easier to activate.

[wax_on_wax_off]

that depends if the spells/feats are multiplied by crits.... it could just be 8d12, im sure if they actually were doubled by crits. you'd see artis using nothing but IC:Ranged or keened Greatbows with deadly weapons on and always within PBS range... since PBS's range was increased from 30 to 45 it makes it a lot easier to activate.

I don't seehow doubling the base damage dice suddenly makes a great crossbow better than a repeater as the RoF will still suck.

I imagine a great crossbow will be useful for the knockdown utility but otherwise the repeaters should be higher DPS.

The way deadly weapons reads it should indeed be multiPlied by crits unless there is evidence to the contrary?