melee build 13 monk/6 ranger/ 1 rogue

[arkonas]

hi there i was playing around with an idea for an odd build but im not really sure if it will work out at all race would be helf monk would be dark. I just wanted a different idea but i wanted to be sure it would do something. Since this is something i was only messing around with any suggestions will be taken. oh cleric dilettante for a little self healing and cleric like wands/scrolls.

I do have one question which i didnt think about. the two hand weapon fighting from ranger will that really help with me hitting? that was one of the things i have thought about. this was also a fun build too. so just seeing if it might work.

32 point build


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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(13 Monk \ 1 Rogue \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 369
Spell Points: 70
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 13

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 15 21 22
Dexterity 15 17 17
Constitution 14 17 18
Intelligence 12 14 14
Wisdom 14 16 16
Charisma 8 8 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 6 8 8
Bluff 3 3 3
Concentration 4 25 28
Diplomacy -1 -1 -1
Disable Device 5 25 26
Haggle 3 3 3
Heal 2 3 3
Hide 2 3 3
Intimidate -1 -1 -1
Jump 6 11 13
Listen 2 3 3
Move Silently 2 3 3
Open Lock 6 19 20
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 1 2 2
Search 5 21 25
Spot 5 20 23
Swim 2 6 6
Tumble 3 4 6
Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Search I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Perception II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Search II


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Jump II


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Porous Soul


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Winter's Touch


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Curse of the Void
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
Feat: (Automatic) Moment of Clarity
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I


Level 19 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I




i know i want to do damage with touch of death and Ninja spy prestige, decent ac, and traps. just kinda lost on what else i should get. i dont really know how to break down the health but looking at minos greater false life shroud hp item con 6 with toughness feat. i think with this build ill be around 514hp at 20. i might be wrong. So any help from where i can go from here would be nice. im not looking to do epic traps but if i can get most traps then ill be happy while putting out decent damage. I didnt include items because i dont know how to use that part but any ideas would help.

[Adrian99]

The class split is fine, but you need to modify the order you're taking your classes in, because it helps greatly to get GTWF as soon as possible, and also take advantage of the free Ranger TWF feats since you're going for Tempest 1. You have 1st level rogue, and that's good. After that you can mix and match Ranger and Monk a bit, but make sure that by level 12 you've got 6 ranger levels. Also you'll want to start with a 15 Dex so that you can hit 17 with a +2 tome. Aside from that, you're looking good here.

[unholy1]

a lil confused on a few things - the build doenst have GTWF listed as you take ITWF at lvl 20? as well what weapons are you planing to use? the obvious choice is kama, unarmed or Short Swords with the dark path and maybe longswords if you ge tthe whirling steel feat, however the feat you took oversized TWF i dont think helps you at all as it states " Removes the -2 to-hit penalty for each hand when using weapons that are not light weapon on your offhand." as the short sword and kama are both light weapons

- this however is an interesting choice as a feat
◦Usage: Passive
◦Prerequisite:

◦Weapon Focus: Slashing
◦Monk Level 1
◦one of following;
◦Proficiency: Longswords, Favored by the Sovereign Host, or Half-Elf race with Fighter dilettante.
- this would put your oversized two weapon fighting to better use. as well i noticed that you have weapon focus bludgeoning as a feat adn that gives yuor bludgeoning weapons a +1 to attack? this kind of defeats teh purpose of trying to use blades. i would always any melee class take some form of improved critical ninja spy gives it to you with Short Swords only so mayeb take imporved critical bludgeoning to add extra damage with your fists? toughness is really nice but i think that if you are dilletant cleric and can use ranger type wands and are a monk you should be ok with 1 or no toughnesses. i know that many peopel will disagree with me on the no toughnesses but 1 is really good and none if built ight you can get by with - add some healing amp maybe. another feat you may want to look into is weapon finesse as unarmed kama and showtsword are all light weapons and as a monk unless you are making a STR monk youll probably have some dex in yer build and most likely more dex than STR. hope these tips help- cheers m8

[arkonas]

yeah i was thinking about the ranger thing. it was just thrown together at first but that does make sense to take the ranger earlier on. as for the focus i didnt really mean to put that in. i had fighter 6 in there instead of ranger but then i though how much it would help me with the free feats added on 2handed. ill revise it. since im kinda new at monks will the touch of death work on short swords or kamas when i use it?

[unholy1]

nope touch of death only works with unarmed :( sad i know

[arkonas]

doh good to know on that part.