Build Request. Helf rogue/bard.

[Talimannn]

I could do with some help on a build I'm looking into please.

Half elf rogue bard with a paladin dilletante

Dill is to get the paladin smite and hopefully the laying on hands later on with enhancements. Also get a charisma boost from it.

I'm toying on a quarterstaff strenth build, but would also consider dual shortswords/rapiers/scimetars etc. This is for a TR and I already have dual heavy picks made so if that could be used then great.

I cant work out the level progresssion since if I try save anything on the character planner it crashes my system. I can however open files (odd)

I'd be interested in others take on this build idea.

[Emizand]

Dill is to get the paladin smite and hopefully the laying on hands later on with enhancements.

Hmm dont think so!

Its easy enough to twink the classic rocker ( http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=2972309&posted=1#post2972309 )into a rogue splash build. Str 16, con 16, int14, cha 14. Rogue 1st level, then another lvl arounnd 7-9ish

[Emizand]

Half-Elf Dilettante Paladin

Half-Elf Follower of the Silver Flame: You are one of the Purified, a true believer in the Silver Flame. Burn the corruption and taint of evil from all Eberron. Grants proficiency with and a +1 bonus to hit with longbows, the favored weapon of the clergy of the Silver Flame.
AP Cost: 2 Level: 3 Progression: 6 Requires: Half-Elf Paladin Dilettante

Half-Elf Follower of the Sovereign Host: You are a Vassal of the Sovereign Host, a true believer in the Doctrine of Universal Sovereignty. As is the world, so are the gods. As are the gods, so is the world. Grants proficiency with and a +1 bonus to hit with longswords, the favored weapon of the clergy of the Sovereign Host.
AP Cost: 2 Level: 3 Progression: 6 Requires: Half-Elf Paladin Dilettante

Improved Paladin Dilettante I: Your Lesser Divine Grace has improved, and you are now able to add up to 3 points of your charisma bonus to your saves. Also increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 1, so you are now treated as a second level Paladin instead of first level.
AP Cost: 1 Level: 5 Progression: 15 Requires: Half-Elf Paladin Dilettante

Improved Paladin Dilettante II: Your Lesser Divine Grace has improved, and you are now able to add up to 4 points of your charisma bonus to your saves. Also increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 1, so you are now treated as a third level Paladin instead of second level.
AP Cost: 2 Level: 10 Progression: 34 Requires: Improved Paladin Dilettante I

Improved Paladin Dilettante III: Your Lesser Divine Grace has improved, and you are now able to add up to 5 points of your charisma bonus to your saves. Also increases your caster level in your dilettante class by 1, so you are now treated as a fourth level Paladin instead of third level.
AP Cost: 3 Level: 15 Progression: 53 Requires: Improved Paladin Dilettante II

Half-Elf Paladin Charisma I: Grants a +1 increase to Charisma score. This counts as a class based ability score enhancement.
AP Cost: 2 Level: 9 Progression: 30 Requires: Half-Elf Paladin Dilettante

[Viciouspika]

I am currently running a drow rogue/bard character. The ending levels would be 13 rog/7 bard. The prestige classes are assasin II/ Virtuoso I. This could work with helf race. Its more of a stealth, solo, or flower-sniffer build. I sneak into a group of mobs enthrall them, bluff nearest one, and kill that mob. Wash, rinse, repeat until all are dead or enthrall wears off. The feats are tight thou may not have enough to take dilettance feats. Feats are Toughness, negotatiator, twf gtwf, itwf, oversized twf, and improved crit pierce or slash depending on rapier or simitar weapons. Rogue special feats, improved evasion and opportunist. Base stats: 14, 16,12,16,10,16.

[licho]

Some variant of my current rogue warchanter drow.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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HERogue Warchanter
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
(1 Fighter \ 3 Rogue \ 16 Bard)
Hit Points: 266
Spell Points: 475
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 18
Will: 12

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 16 21 22
Dexterity 15 17 17
Constitution 14 14 15
Intelligence 13 14 14
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 13 14 14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 6 14 14
Bluff 1 2 2
Concentration 2 25 25
Diplomacy 1 2 2
Disable Device 5 25 25
Haggle 1 2 2
Heal -1 -1 -1
Hide 2 3 3
Intimidate 1 2 6
Jump 7 15 15
Listen -1 -1 -1
Move Silently 6 11 11
Open Lock 6 13 13
Perform n/a 25 25
Repair 1 2 2
Search 5 25 25
Spot 3 3 3
Swim 3 6 6
Tumble 6 8 8
Use Magic Device 5 25 25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Rage


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+5)
Skill: Search (+5)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (2): Invisibility


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (3): Haste


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+6)
Skill: Search (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (5): Shadow Walk


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III