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Darknark
07-31-2011, 11:22 PM
Could I please get a price check on these items?

-Scroll of the Ring of Spell Storing.
-Scroll of the Coronation shield.

-Thanks in advance

Noelemahc
08-01-2011, 02:28 AM
Spell storing ring scroll - at the very most you'll get 1 red scale from someone who really, really needs it. I'd say it's generally a large scale or maybe a bit more. If you were asking for plat I'd say 300k-500kish range

Shield scroll - barely worth anything... like a marginal amount of plat in the 30-50k range MAYBE. I have so many of those laying around and I can't even give them away. If only there were a scroll trading system from the epic vendor or something :/

Claymorep
08-01-2011, 05:43 AM
I agree with Allegora, just to give another opinion ;)

niko18
08-01-2011, 06:14 AM
i think the scroll of ring of spell storing values at 1 red - (3-2LDS) not less and not more since is not to easy to get it and it's a usefull scroll.

Claymorep
08-01-2011, 07:20 AM
It is not a raid scroll, so not hard in finding. About the use of that epic item I think noone will never say the contrary. The problem is the shard that have 4-5 guys on all the server after a year all the server is farming... I remember the "surprised" answer of a dev to a guildy with that shard as He too thought it was near impossible to find o.O

niko18
08-01-2011, 09:06 AM
It is not a raid scroll, so not hard in finding.

Not only raid scroll are hard to find, i farm a lot and i get only 2 ring of spell storing scroll and 1 bloodstone, then in the sand packs there are around 60 named items , so to get the scroll you want even if trash is not easy to find, then in my personal opinion i think scroll of ring of spell storing and bloodstone scroll have a different drop rate than other not raid scroll.


The problem is the shard that have 4-5 guys on all the server after a year all the server is farming... I remember the "surprised" answer of a dev to a guildy with that shard as He too thought it was near impossible to find o.O

Yeah even if seal is really hard to find and shard is near to impossible to get, the scroll still and ingridient to do the epic crafting , sure the scroll is not that rare like seal and shard but the values of the item is the ratio from: rarity/utility/ difficulty. that is why i said that scroll values more than a LDS

niko18
08-01-2011, 09:16 AM
edit**

Noelemahc
08-01-2011, 11:29 AM
that is why i said that scroll values more than a LDS

Just because an item is good doesn't mean all of the components are worth the most expensive items in the game. There are so many spell storing ring scrolls floating around, that it isn't worth as much as people think. The main reason is that it's near impossible to get the shard for it, and the seal is almost as hard. So there is an excess of scrolls because nobody can craft it.

You are basing your values on assumptions. I am basing mine on actual market experience. But then again, an item is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it if they're desperate enough and impatient. If you pay more than a large scale then you're ripping yourself off.

niko18
08-01-2011, 12:14 PM
i think the scroll of ring of spell storing values at 1 red - (3-2LDS) not less and not more since is not to easy to get it and it's a usefull scroll.

the values of the item is not always the same with the market "Price" but i for sure won't sell that good scroll for 1 lds or 400k.
You are correct since you saying it values at 1lds on market but it is underpriced.


You are basing your values on assumptions.

Since i tell you i farm a lot ,i got like 250 sands scrolls and only 2 from ring of spell storing,i'm not basing my values on assumptions , but in experience too.

Darknark
08-01-2011, 12:23 PM
Thank you all for the replies.

Noelemahc
08-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Since i tell you i farm a lot ,i got like 250 sands scrolls and only 2 from ring of spell storing,i'm not basing my values on assumptions , but in experience too.

I farm a lot as well. I got well over 3,000 scrolls scattered across 4 large ingredient bags. Just because I happen to have only 2 Stinkpelt Hide scrolls doesn't mean they are worth 5 reds a piece (I mean 2 in 3,000+ that's super rare right? no, it's just luck). The only scrolls that are more rare than any others in sands and are therefor worth a lot more in price are raid scrolls. That's because the average raid scroll drop rate is 1 in 100 scrolls, and getting the specific one you want is a nightmare because of it. The rest drop at a fairly even rate.

Sure, the item is good. Again, the shard is SO rare that there is a surplus of those scrolls laying around. 250 sands scrolls is a moderate amount, but still not a large enough sample size because of the amount of items there is in sands (64 in fact).

Sure, you might have only 2, but that's just entirely luck. EVERY scroll from the sands has a low chance to get just because of how much trash is in the loot tables. That doesn't make my Zephyr scroll worth a ton just because of it. I spent the last 2 weeks farming VoN scrolls. I got 6 ruby gauntlet scrolls in 1 sitting. Out of the 132 scrolls I got in the 2 week period, I didn't get an azure necklace scroll once. That doesn't mean if I get one I'm going to run out and sell it for 3 reds. I mean I didn't get one, it's gotta be rare and worth a lot of money right? That's just basic probability. Some times you get a lot, some times you get none. Everything in this game is based on chance and luck. But looking at a large enough sample size you tend to see a bit of consistency. 250 sands scrolls is not a large enough sample size (it's pretty small).

I'm basing my price on deals I've seen go down for the past 2 years. You seem like you are basing your price on the fact that you have a hard time pulling them. Some people do epics casually and pull 3-4 of them (I've seen it). Some people farm religiously and get none or only pull 1 ever. However the driving force behind the market value is the supply and demand. There is a relatively abundant supply of ring scrolls, and a relatively low demand because nobody has the shard (or some cases the seal, but it's almost always the shard).


the values of the item is not always the same with the market "Price" but i for sure won't sell that good scroll for 1 lds or 400k.
You are correct since you saying it values at 1lds on market but it is underpriced.

That is your opinion entirely. For some that is overpriced because of the number floating around. An item is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. However with a lot of them floating around there is no reason to be willing to overpay.

Anyway, I'm done on the topic. Everyone has their opinion, and no sense arguing about it. I've stated my opinion on what the value is based on sales/buying experience and watching other deals go down for the last 2+ years. You've stated your opinion based on the fact that you haven't pulled a lot. *shrug* To each their own. The OP got his info, so I'll leave it on that. I don't want to derail the topic.