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ARIES
07-30-2011, 06:52 PM
Does Haste boost stack with Haste?
zztophat
07-30-2011, 06:54 PM
The ranger running speed boost?
Yes.
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 06:54 PM
Does Haste boost stack with Haste?
Yep, And its amazing.
suszterpatt
07-30-2011, 06:55 PM
The ranger running speed boost?
Yes.That's Sprint Boost. Haste Boost is attack speed, and yes, it stacks with all other forms of attack speed boost.
ARIES
07-30-2011, 06:58 PM
Yep, And its amazing.
You are my hero,
how many swings per minute would that be? i changed my mind back to 18/2 cause i dont wanna spend the next year trying to get gear for my 12/6/2 lol
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 07:13 PM
You are my hero,
how many swings per minute would that be? i changed my mind back to 18/2 cause i dont wanna spend the next year trying to get gear for my 12/6/2 lol
I have no idea. lol. that one is beyond me, something like 90-100 seems to be the consensus on the threads I could find
ARIES
07-30-2011, 07:15 PM
I have no idea. lol. that one is beyond me, something like 90-100 seems to be the consensus on the threads I could find
WOOT! a question you couldnt answer!
but no, i really wanted to know that one. thanks for ruining my life. :D
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 07:21 PM
WOOT! a question you couldnt answer!
but no, i really wanted to know that one. thanks for ruining my life. :D
NEVAR... hm.. alright. time for the math geek version, i found This Thread (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144) Which goes over SPM for a variety of builds, and I extracted this Table:
BAB 20 swing animations per minute
Boost% fTwitch sTwitch Unarmed TWF fastTHF slowTHF
0% 99.5 102.2 93.2 86.7 86.5 86.6
5% 105.8 108.0 99.3 91.8 91.0 90.8
10% 112.2 113.8 105.3 97.0 95.4 95.0
15% 118.5 119.5 111.3 102.2 99.9 99.1
20% 124.9 125.3 117.4 107.4 104.4 103.3
25% 131.2 131.1 123.4 112.6 108.8 107.5
30% 137.6 136.9 129.4 117.8 113.3 111.6
35% 143.9 142.7 135.5 123.0 117.8 115.8
40% 150.3 148.4 141.5 128.1 122.2 119.9
45% 156.6 154.2 147.5 133.3 126.7 124.1
50% 163.0 160.0 153.5 138.5 131.2 128.3
55% 169.3 165.8 159.6 143.7 135.6 132.4
60% 175.7 171.5 165.6 148.9 140.1 136.6
So, you would be looking at Fast THF with a boost of haste 15% and haste boost 15% giving you... 113 SPM, so I wasnt that Far off :D
Kinerd
07-30-2011, 07:21 PM
It's somewhat complicated to calculate, because Haste Boost (like other Action Boosts) has a period of enforced inactivity - 1.2 seconds without the Quickdraw feat, 0.6 seconds with. (From what I've heard, this period can currently be ignored entirely by hitting alternate-animation attacks, like Cleave, etc., and Lord only knows if that's WAI. For now we'll ignore it.) If you know whether you will have the Quickdraw feat, you can calculate your overall attack rate by:
(19.4 or 18.8 * increased rate + 10 * normal rate) / 30
And you can obtain values for each of the rates in Vanshilar's Attack Speed Index (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144). For instance, if you were Hasted, using a Greatsword, had Haste Boost I, and did not have Quickdraw, you would do:
(18.8 * 111.6 + 10 * 99.1) / 30 = 103.0, or a 3.9% increase in overall attack rate (and therefore DPS). Adding Quickdraw would improve this increase to 6.2%.
ARIES
07-30-2011, 07:32 PM
NEVAR... hm.. alright. time for the math geek version, i found This Thread (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144) Which goes over SPM for a variety of builds, and I extracted this Table:
BAB 20 swing animations per minute
Boost% fTwitch sTwitch Unarmed TWF fastTHF slowTHF
0% 99.5 102.2 93.2 86.7 86.5 86.6
5% 105.8 108.0 99.3 91.8 91.0 90.8
10% 112.2 113.8 105.3 97.0 95.4 95.0
15% 118.5 119.5 111.3 102.2 99.9 99.1
20% 124.9 125.3 117.4 107.4 104.4 103.3
25% 131.2 131.1 123.4 112.6 108.8 107.5
30% 137.6 136.9 129.4 117.8 113.3 111.6
35% 143.9 142.7 135.5 123.0 117.8 115.8
40% 150.3 148.4 141.5 128.1 122.2 119.9
45% 156.6 154.2 147.5 133.3 126.7 124.1
50% 163.0 160.0 153.5 138.5 131.2 128.3
55% 169.3 165.8 159.6 143.7 135.6 132.4
60% 175.7 171.5 165.6 148.9 140.1 136.6
So, you would be looking at Fast THF with a boost of haste 15% and haste boost 15% giving you... 113 SPM, so I wasnt that Far off :D
darn. :/
Soo if you got reconstructed with haste and then hit haste boosts it would stack?
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 07:46 PM
Soo if you got reconstructed with haste and then hit haste boosts it would stack?
The Haste boost from reconstruct does not stack with haste. but it will stack with the haste boost.
puget
07-30-2011, 08:41 PM
NEVAR... hm.. alright. time for the math geek version, i found This Thread (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144) Which goes over SPM for a variety of builds, and I extracted this Table:
BAB 20 swing animations per minute
Boost% fTwitch sTwitch Unarmed TWF fastTHF slowTHF
0% 99.5 102.2 93.2 86.7 86.5 86.6
5% 105.8 108.0 99.3 91.8 91.0 90.8
10% 112.2 113.8 105.3 97.0 95.4 95.0
15% 118.5 119.5 111.3 102.2 99.9 99.1
20% 124.9 125.3 117.4 107.4 104.4 103.3
25% 131.2 131.1 123.4 112.6 108.8 107.5
30% 137.6 136.9 129.4 117.8 113.3 111.6
35% 143.9 142.7 135.5 123.0 117.8 115.8
40% 150.3 148.4 141.5 128.1 122.2 119.9
45% 156.6 154.2 147.5 133.3 126.7 124.1
50% 163.0 160.0 153.5 138.5 131.2 128.3
55% 169.3 165.8 159.6 143.7 135.6 132.4
60% 175.7 171.5 165.6 148.9 140.1 136.6
So, you would be looking at Fast THF with a boost of haste 15% and haste boost 15% giving you... 113 SPM, so I wasnt that Far off :D
HRRMMMM..... I must first spread some reputation around before giving it to YOU AGAIN!
Just wanted you to know you were in my thoughts for this. Please don't expect me to remember, if you care, PM me TOMORROW after the hangover to remind me. (that should be around 10 pm PST)
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 08:44 PM
HRRMMMM..... I must first spread some reputation around before giving it to YOU AGAIN!
Just wanted you to know you were in my thoughts for this. Please don't expect me to remember, if you care, PM me TOMORROW after the hangover to remind me. (that should be around 10 pm PST)
LOL, pos rep alwase appreciated, would like to see the light of day from the hole in in right now. haha. :D
ARIES
07-30-2011, 08:47 PM
LOL, pos rep alwase appreciated, would like to see the light of day from the hole in in right now. haha. :D
wont let me rep you anymore either.. lol
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 08:57 PM
wont let me rep you anymore either.. lol
For some reason I have never been able to +rep or -rep anyone on the fourms, even when my rep was positive, dont know whats going on there, do f2p accounts not have acess to that? (this account is linked to a f2p account, and i didnt notice this untill I had started posting, so im too lazy to switch to my other p2p account option.) :D
ARIES
07-30-2011, 09:01 PM
For some reason I have never been able to +rep or -rep anyone on the fourms, even when my rep was positive, dont know whats going on there, do f2p accounts not have acess to that? (this account is linked to a f2p account, and i didnt notice this untill I had started posting, so im too lazy to switch to my other p2p account option.) :D
no clue. im the useless one, you're the helpful one, Glad things are all cleared up now :D
The_Brave2
07-30-2011, 09:02 PM
no clue. im the useless one, you're the helpful one, Glad things are all cleared up now :D
LOL, sorry, I forgot :rolleyes:
ARIES
07-30-2011, 09:08 PM
LOL, sorry, I forgot :rolleyes:
everyone makes foolish mistakes, you're lucky i believe in second chances.
Sleepsalot
07-31-2011, 01:03 AM
No F2P can not give rep this is all explained in the forum rules but who reads them?? LoL Really The rep system is flawed any way.That is why mine is off.
Sleeps:D
For some reason I have never been able to +rep or -rep anyone on the fourms, even when my rep was positive, dont know whats going on there, do f2p accounts not have acess to that? (this account is linked to a f2p account, and i didnt notice this untill I had started posting, so im too lazy to switch to my other p2p account option.) :D
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