View Full Version : Make DDO Prettier
Dispel
07-26-2011, 03:18 PM
DDO has been out for over 5 years now, and I know it didn't start off super pretty.. but I think it could use a major revamp in how it looks. WoW is cartoony and sucks. I can't afford Rift, but it's super pretty. If DDO was amazingly pretty, that would be awesome! Ever notice how difficult it is to show your friend a cool screenshot of DDO? Like someone who hasn't played before... they don't get how great the combat system is, and some people judge a book by it's cover. This has been done before, I think it was U5 or something, where they redid a lot of the textures and made DDO prettier... My request: Please do it again! I want DDO to be pretty and HD looking.
SolarDawning
07-26-2011, 03:22 PM
I like pretty things. You know what is pretty? Sparkles and glitter. DDO needs to be pretty too, so lets put sparkles and glitter everywhere in DDO. The Marketplace should have disco balls everywhere, and the buildings should be all covered in glitter paint and sparkle. When airships fly by in the sky, they should leave rainbow trails, with sparkling ponies and unicorns galloping on the clouds around them.
That would be awesome!
flynnjsw
07-26-2011, 03:23 PM
Meh...
somenewnoob
07-26-2011, 03:25 PM
I prefer fun over pretty.
Graphics != fun
TheDearLeader
07-26-2011, 03:26 PM
I perceive beauty to be red. Specifically, the deep crimson of blood drying in open air.
So, I think everyone's toons should have this skin tone. Also, all bridges, buildings, the sky itself, etc. should reflect my personal vision of beauty.
Because that's what this game is about, right? Catering to me, me, me?
stoopid_cowboy
07-26-2011, 03:27 PM
I like pretty things. You know what is pretty? Sparkles and glitter. DDO needs to be pretty too, so lets put sparkles and glitter everywhere in DDO. The Marketplace should have disco balls everywhere, and the buildings should be all covered in glitter paint and sparkle. When airships fly by in the sky, they should leave rainbow trails, with sparkling ponies and unicorns galloping on the clouds around them.
That would be awesome!
^^ This what you had in mind? ^^
Uhh, no. /not signed EVAR
Dunno about anyone else, but when I hear the words "dungeons and dragons" I picture dark, gloomy, scary, and mysterious...
If I wanted pretty with sparkles, i'd go play Hello Kitty.
yuda
phalaeo
07-26-2011, 03:32 PM
Everything outside the Lobster looks pretty nice to me...
Missing_Minds
07-26-2011, 03:36 PM
Mor butterflies!
Dispel
07-26-2011, 03:38 PM
Hey now, I didn't say it couldn't be scary. I wish there were scary quests too.. like that game F.E.A.R., oh man, that could make you jump. None of those "scary" quests from U9/10 do that for me.
Silverwren
07-26-2011, 03:42 PM
If I wanted pretty with sparkles, i'd go play Hello Kitty.
Wait..............there's a Hello Kitty MMO?
YES! I am SOOOO outta here! :p
gloopygloop
07-26-2011, 03:45 PM
I like pretty things. You know what is pretty? Sparkles and glitter. DDO needs to be pretty too, so lets put sparkles and glitter everywhere in DDO. The Marketplace should have disco balls everywhere, and the buildings should be all covered in glitter paint and sparkle. When airships fly by in the sky, they should leave rainbow trails, with sparkling ponies and unicorns galloping on the clouds around them.
That would be awesome!
Also, red named Vampire bosses needs to sparkle.
sebastianosmith
07-26-2011, 03:48 PM
Imagine my astonishment when I found myself agreeing with the OP.
DDO is becoming rather dated in terms of textures, models and animations. I do like some of the new DX11 features but mostly it's a "shiny-pretty" on an aging framework. It's beginning to remind me visually more and more of Half-Life 2. Great game, just kind of old.
Bargol
07-26-2011, 03:48 PM
Spend some more time out of the pvp pit and you will see DDO has good graphics.
Shade
07-26-2011, 03:51 PM
i prefer the meat to the vegetable.
Memnir
07-26-2011, 03:53 PM
Everything outside the Lobster looks pretty nice to me...This. +Rep.
TempestAlphaOmega
07-26-2011, 03:59 PM
Because that's what this game is about, right? Catering to me, me, me?
You were so close, its actually all about me, me, me, not you, you , you.
I'm confused. Are people really opposed to a graphics upgrade for DDO?
The game does look dated or just plain bad in some areas...such as the Odo look alikes that keep on getting rolled up.
Dispel
07-26-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm confused. Are people really opposed to a graphics upgrade for DDO?
The game does look dated or just plain bad in some areas...such as the Odo look alikes that keep on getting rolled up.
It's because I suggested it. Hence the PvP comments.
somenewnoob
07-26-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm confused. Are people really opposed to a graphics upgrade for DDO?
The game does look dated or just plain bad in some areas...such as the Odo look alikes that keep on getting rolled up.
I'm opposed to it being updated until they fix all the stuff that's not WAI and giving us some new content.
Unless they hire some more people and can competently do both at one time.
agent00skid
07-26-2011, 04:05 PM
Not against a graphics update, just don't want it enough, to make it take resources from other parts of development.
I'm opposed to it being updated until they fix all the stuff that's not WAI and giving us some new content.
Nod, that I can understand.
Memnir
07-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I'm confused. Are people really opposed to a graphics upgrade for DDO?
The game does look dated or just plain bad in some areas...such as the Odo look alikes that keep on getting rolled up.I'm not opposed to it - more that I don't see an urgent need. And, I am all about the eye candy.
lhidda
07-26-2011, 04:14 PM
agree. Id like to see bracers/cloaks/boots visible. Id love to see mantle of worldshaper, cloak of silver concord visible. give graphics more love.
Galeria
07-26-2011, 04:17 PM
I LOVE DDO's graphics. Honestly.
Have you really looked around at all the detail? I am amazed (especially when I use one of the desktops instead of the laptop) at the texture and details and really everything about it. It's an amazing world they have built.
Rift? I guess if you've grown up playing Xbox it looks prettier, but to me it looks very fake and plastic. There are other people in my house who play it who have tried to convince me how awesome the graphics are... but meh.
I really enjoy the graphics. I do not want the look and feel of the game to change. Add more character options... fix half-elves... great! But no, don't change the world itself.
HelvanderSeries6
07-26-2011, 04:21 PM
I perceive beauty to be red. Specifically, the deep crimson of blood drying in open air.
So, I think everyone's toons should have this skin tone. Also, all bridges, buildings, the sky itself, etc. should reflect my personal vision of beauty.
Because that's what this game is about, right? Catering to me, me, me?
Wait...wha..
I thought it was all about me me me? :D
Vellrad
07-26-2011, 04:25 PM
Also, red named Vampire bosses needs to sparkle.
Only after sunburst is cast
Vellrad
07-26-2011, 04:26 PM
I'm opposed to it being updated until they fix all the stuff that's not WAI and giving us some new content.
Unless they hire some more people and can competently do both at one time.
Yeah sure, because system things (feats, spells, races, game rules), quests and graphics are all done by the same people.
/signed
what the point in having the latest and greatest video card's if the game still runs on ultra high on a card that is very out dated
Seikojin
07-26-2011, 04:31 PM
DDO has been out for over 5 years now, and I know it didn't start off super pretty.. but I think it could use a major revamp in how it looks. WoW is cartoony and sucks. I can't afford Rift, but it's super pretty. If DDO was amazingly pretty, that would be awesome! Ever notice how difficult it is to show your friend a cool screenshot of DDO? Like someone who hasn't played before... they don't get how great the combat system is, and some people judge a book by it's cover. This has been done before, I think it was U5 or something, where they redid a lot of the textures and made DDO prettier... My request: Please do it again! I want DDO to be pretty and HD looking.
qft, eh?
I think the game looks great. It would be nice if it took advantage of higher end gpu's and systems. But that is honestly a pipe dream. Not to smash all over it, but they would have to redo all the models and animation for them. There are a few code to engine issues they would have to work on as well. And given the games current issues graphically, I don't think it would be fiscally wise to jump into a graphic overhaul like that any time soon.
Vellrad
07-26-2011, 04:33 PM
BTW, I think monsters should look more monstrous.
You know, roaring, with jaw animation and spitting etc.
Sadly, most mobs in DDO looks like cute but ugly pets.
Memnir
07-26-2011, 04:38 PM
As we all know... graphics (http://www.minecraft.net/) are all that matters to all games. Gameplay and the fun-factor don't matter what so ever, so long as the game is pretty (http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html).
Yep. We all know it.
ZeroTakenaka
07-26-2011, 04:39 PM
If DDO became more graphics-intensive to use, my computer couldn't run it... well it can't run it well now but it's playable.
20-30 FPS o.o
CoalFired
07-26-2011, 04:48 PM
Some places look better than others but overall I think the graphics fit the game. If I want to play something with good graphics I use my PS3.
Seikojin
07-26-2011, 05:18 PM
BTW, I think monsters should look more monstrous.
You know, roaring, with jaw animation and spitting etc.
Sadly, most mobs in DDO looks like cute but ugly pets.
If they did that, they would die before they finished their animations. LOL
Seikojin
07-26-2011, 05:19 PM
If DDO became more graphics-intensive to use, my computer couldn't run it... well it can't run it well now but it's playable.
20-30 FPS o.o
The game itself doesn't tax your system. It is dynamically loading objects that does. If it was local to your machine, things would run smoother. You would just swing at something and your attacks would pass right through for a while. LOL
Rumbaar
07-26-2011, 05:21 PM
Visually I do not have any issues with DDO. Not sure what the OP means by making it 'more pretty'.
TempestAlphaOmega
07-26-2011, 05:29 PM
If DDO became more graphics-intensive to use, my computer couldn't run it... well it can't run it well now but it's playable.
20-30 FPS o.o
I would suspect that DDO has a rather large player base that would not be able to take advantage of "better" graphics so the amount of work/cost that would have to be invested probably would not pay off for Turbine.
I could also be way off base, but I think not.
I currently play with everything turned all the way up. I like the way most things look and the level of detail that already exists at that level. Would I like them to make it better? Of course, I have plenty of available room to make use of additional levels of detail. I also realize that Turbine doesn't have unlimited resources and I would rather they invested the "money" elsewhere at the current time (important qualifier at the end there).
If they happen to have a graphics artist sitting around on his/her hands well have at it, but I suspect that isn't true and in the end I prefer game play and content over upping the system specs.
Seikojin
07-26-2011, 05:30 PM
He makes a reference to rift, but I never thought that game was anything to write home about.
Then again, I have played from the prettiest to the most basic and the only thing that matters to me is enjoyment. How do you think Ultima Online stays in business?
The graphics look fine to me. Maybe its time you upgraded your video card?
mournbladereigns
07-26-2011, 05:38 PM
I'd much rather they throw more modelers/artists at adding more monster types (snakes, and manticores, violet fungi, and frikken goblins, and harpies!) than spend a lot of time retexturing old stuff to just make stuff look prettier.
Morosy
07-26-2011, 05:39 PM
Visually I do not have any issues with DDO. Not sure what the OP means by making it 'more pretty'.
He means making it look better than it does currently. I thought he was pretty clear about that?
I don't really care if it looked better or not.
Missing_Minds
07-26-2011, 05:40 PM
I'm not opposed to it - more that I don't see an urgent need. And, I am all about the eye candy.
Stealing the basics of closet/outfit tab from lotro would be a dam good start.
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 05:46 PM
I like pretty things. You know what is pretty? Sparkles and glitter. DDO needs to be pretty too, so lets put sparkles and glitter everywhere in DDO. The Marketplace should have disco balls everywhere, and the buildings should be all covered in glitter paint and sparkle. When airships fly by in the sky, they should leave rainbow trails, with sparkling ponies and unicorns galloping on the clouds around them.
That would be awesome!
I approve of this use of elementary school art supplies.
/not agreed.
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Mor butterflies!
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3946501#post3946501
SIGN MY PETITION!!!
MOAR BUTTERFLIES!!!
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 05:52 PM
As we all know... graphics (http://www.minecraft.net/) are all that matters to all games. Gameplay and the fun-factor don't matter what so ever, so long as the game is pretty (http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html).
Yep. We all know it.
I was going to rep you, but there was no picture. :D
HelvanderSeries6
07-26-2011, 05:58 PM
I like pretty things. You know what is pretty? Sparkles and glitter. DDO needs to be pretty too, so lets put sparkles and glitter everywhere in DDO. The Marketplace should have disco balls everywhere, and the buildings should be all covered in glitter paint and sparkle. When airships fly by in the sky, they should leave rainbow trails, with sparkling ponies and unicorns galloping on the clouds around them.
That would be awesome!
I approve of this use of elementary school art supplies.
/not agreed.
After reading these two posts I totally imagined Rainbow Brite riding a sparkling pony lopping off the head of a Troll with a pink vorpal and it was a bit unsettling and i think i vomited in my mouth a little and not to mention the shame i feel from such a vision.
/heck no
NeutronStar
07-26-2011, 06:03 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/20/128899874373645449.jpg
That's what should be in DDO.
gloopygloop
07-26-2011, 06:45 PM
As we all know... graphics (http://www.minecraft.net/) are all that matters to all games. Gameplay and the fun-factor don't matter what so ever, so long as the game is pretty (http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html).
Yep. We all know it.
Truth.
This is why Pong and PacMan never turned a profit.
Marcus-Hawkeye
07-26-2011, 06:53 PM
I recently had a chance to play the game with Directx11 enabled video card. Nice. While I don't believe they are the most advanced game in terms of graphics, they are fairly up to date...
Rheebus
07-26-2011, 07:07 PM
Lets face reality here. The art department can't even keep up with creating _new_ icons for new spells/feats/enhancements. I still can't tell the difference between stunning fist and quivering palm on my hotbar without careful discernment.
I am all for a graphics update, but wouldn't that require an engine overhaul? Most likely that would break nearly everything in the game.
On the other hand, we did see the addition of tiny floating orbs for ioun stones and a fun holy parrot pet for Angels of Vengence. Maybe this indicates that adding flapping capes and knee-high boots may not be out of the realm of possibility. I would LOVE to see additional graphical customization like boots, gloves, and capes. That would add a lot of graphical pep to the current state of affairs.
I am going to play DDO whether they upgrade the graphics or not for now. Unfortunately, once people begin leaving for prettier games there may not be enough cash left in the game to get a graphical upgrade. I hope that I am wrong here, because I love this game!
Always a lover,
Never a Hater
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 07:16 PM
Lets face reality here. The art department can't even keep up with creating _new_ icons for new spells/feats/enhancements. I still can't tell the difference between stunning fist and quivering palm on my hotbar without careful discernment.
I am all for a graphics update, but wouldn't that require an engine overhaul? Most likely that would break nearly everything in the game.
On the other hand, we did see the addition of tiny floating orbs for ioun stones and a fun holy parrot pet for Angels of Vengence. Maybe this indicates that adding flapping capes and knee-high boots may not be out of the realm of possibility. I would LOVE to see additional graphical customization like boots, gloves, and capes. That would add a lot of graphical pep to the current state of affairs.
I am going to play DDO whether they upgrade the graphics or not for now. Unfortunately, once people begin leaving for prettier games there may not be enough cash left in the game to get a graphical upgrade. I hope that I am wrong here, because I love this game!
Always a lover,
Never a Hater
LotRO is a prettier game
Rift is a prettier game.
Both are boring (though LotRO makes up for awesome storyline, barely)
As others have said, AC is going, Ultima is too. God, look at WoW how horrid that looks but people still play it. It's not for the graphics.
Battlehawke
07-26-2011, 07:26 PM
He's Back!!!!
Rheebus
07-26-2011, 07:57 PM
LotRO is a prettier game
Rift is a prettier game.
Both are boring (though LotRO makes up for awesome storyline, barely)
As others have said, AC is going, Ultima is too. God, look at WoW how horrid that looks but people still play it. It's not for the graphics.
Good points.
I am thinking about updating the graphics, not making the game cartoony or change the art style. I agree with you 100% about those games.
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 08:01 PM
Good points.
I am thinking about updating the graphics, not making the game cartoony or change the art style. I agree with you 100% about those games.
The last DnD cartoon I want to see was from the '80's...And i wanted to poke my eyes out then.
<<Cue Memnir with pix>>
gloopygloop
07-26-2011, 08:14 PM
I also wonder at what exploits/broken functionality would be introduced with new art/animations.
The recent changes that the art department introduced to combat has completely destroyed the usefulness of the Paladin smite power (although the enhancement-based smite was thankfully untouched) and added a new twich-style combat exploit to Barbarians with the spammable Supreme Cleave.
I honestly don't trust the art department to do anything new that could relate to combat right now.
sebastianosmith
07-26-2011, 08:17 PM
<<Cue Memnir with pix>>
Don't worry. I got this:
http://geeksdreamgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/dnd.jpg
flynnjsw
07-26-2011, 08:17 PM
The last DnD cartoon I want to see was from the '80's...And i wanted to poke my eyes out then.
<<Cue Memnir with pix>>
Not Mem but...
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/lima33doc/danddcartoon.jpg
GeneralDiomedes
07-26-2011, 08:27 PM
You might not like WoW-style graphics, but they are very polished and the animation is smooth as butter.
DDO is a mixed bag, with a lot of excellent textures, but also a lot of pixellated textures that need to be re-done. Also, many quests/areas incorporate the recycling of old textures in "creative" ways that don't necessarily make for a cohesive artistic feel.
I would be all for beefing up the art department so every new adventure pack doesn't look like it was a product of a DDO random quest generator, and perhaps some old ones can be seen in a new light.
Thorzian
07-26-2011, 08:32 PM
ddo tried pretty. ever see a half-elf? ill stick with ugly
Memnir
07-26-2011, 08:40 PM
<<Cue Memnir with pix>>
Don't worry. I got this
Not Mem but...
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http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/challenge_accepted.png
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http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/epicdnd.jpg
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:D
sebastianosmith
07-26-2011, 08:45 PM
:D
Just had to have every model in the show, didn't you. Grrrrrr. ;)
Memnir
07-26-2011, 09:16 PM
Just had to have every model in the show, didn't you. Grrrrrr. ;)Yes.
Yes I did. :D
stille_nacht
07-26-2011, 09:20 PM
after they make more content they can do a graphics revamp. As graphics go, ddo is superior to almost everything on the market at ultra high, so yeah.
graphics takes a loooooooot of coding, especially if you want it to overlay an existing game. New content equating to about 1/3 of existing content would take less effort than a graphics revamp.
also, i think the worst graphics are probably wooden ones, but there arent a lot of those around. well, except in low level areas like the harbor...
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 09:21 PM
Don't worry. I got this:
http://geeksdreamgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/dnd.jpg
Not Mem but...
http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/lima33doc/danddcartoon.jpg
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http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/challenge_accepted.png
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http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/epicdnd.jpg
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:D
Just had to have every model in the show, didn't you. Grrrrrr. ;)
Yes.
Yes I did. :D
BWAHAhAHAHAHAAHAhAHAAAAAAWAWWREHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA HHHHH!!!
Must spread more hugs areound before any more memnir hugs.
FrozenNova
07-26-2011, 09:51 PM
Of all examples, rift?
Rift isn't really much 'prettier' than DDO in any sense - they just have more cinematic scenery due to the nature of the game.
http://files.g4tv.com/rimg_606x0/ImageDb3/262523_l/rift-screenshots.jpg
http://image.igxe.com/1143.jpg
http://blog.direct2drive.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/rift_1.jpg
I think DDO on max settings in Dx11 is really rather nice as-is.
Custom graphics profiles go a long way to help with the odd lighting.
Of all examples, rift?.
That actually looks worse than DDO, just look at how dead the water is.
stille_nacht
07-26-2011, 09:55 PM
That actually looks worse than DDO, just look at how dead the water is.
hmm some of the texturing is a bit more advanced (not the water obviously), but it seems pretty much on-par with ddo. Scenery looks exotic tho
http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/EnPsyane/epicdnd.jpg
.:D
Don't tell anyone but.... Venger was really the DM's son, and the kids decided not to ever go home...
Letrii
07-26-2011, 10:00 PM
Just had to have every model in the show, didn't you. Grrrrrr. ;)
Where is the DM?
Zuldar
07-26-2011, 10:04 PM
Truth.
This is why Pong and PacMan never turned a profit.
To be fair, those were pretty slick graphics back in the day.
Memnir
07-26-2011, 10:21 PM
Where is the DM?
The little bald guy in Red, next to Uni and in front of the Wizard... front row. :)
Dispel
07-26-2011, 10:26 PM
http://dorkandbeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dndcartoon.jpg
Back to the topic of making DDO prettier... why not have another texture upgrade, at least?
OH!!! And instead of making new armor kits for us to BUY, how about adding some more armor appearances into the randomly generated rotation of armors out there? We can start seeing prettier armors that we don't have to buy.
Aelonwy
07-26-2011, 10:47 PM
The only graphics in DDO that scream update/fix/help me please I'm ugly beyond imagining/ was beaten by a branch of the ugly tree/cosmetic surgery catastrophe.... are the faces of halfelves.
I can only imagine that someone at Turbine has a vendetta against halfelves or elsewise why punish the entier race with the cruelty of hideousness? Or maybe its a balance issue... you know balance the bonus of halfelf dilettante with being forced to play a character that is virtually impossible to make attractive. *shrug*
Feithlin
07-26-2011, 11:16 PM
I prefer ddo to not lag than being prettier. And I don't want to have to upgrade my computer to be able to play the same game. I'm fine with the actual look of the game.
Frankenfaust
07-26-2011, 11:24 PM
Perhaps an alteration such as in "The Rainbow In The Dark" -All the dungeons are similarly in pitch darkness. This would surely be a simple client side modification but would alter tactics of groups immensely.
One member of the group would have to keep a hand free to carry the torch, dwarfarians cant belt ahead and annihilate all the barrels, mobs leap out of the shadows...
Fire spells would also have to have a luminating effect, albeit temporary. Torches could be found in chests, longer life torches in the store. Hirelings could carry a torch for you if it gets all too stressful for you.
All other dungeons seemed a tad vanilla after the Rainbow darkness dungeon. Granted I havent reached lvl 20 yet.
Nysrock
07-26-2011, 11:42 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2231/2350880306_163546ff59.jpg
DoctorWhofan
07-26-2011, 11:52 PM
The little bald guy in Red, next to Uni and in front of the Wizard... front row. :)
The fact you know that is sad. The fact I know is even sadder.
<<goes and stands in corner, banging her head to remove the horrid images of '80's saturday He**>>
Meetch1972
07-26-2011, 11:57 PM
Perhaps an alteration such as in "The Rainbow In The Dark" -All the dungeons are similarly in pitch darkness. This would surely be a simple client side modification but would alter tactics of groups immensely.
Implementing some sort of DnD style vision across races would be interesting...
Consider:
* Low-Light vision/Dark vision endowed races would be differentiated from those without. (Sorry, that Dwarfarian can see 60ft so will still run ahead and smash those barrels, and the elf can see quite well as long as there's a few glowing insects about. Humans will find walls and other obstacles with their noses and shins).
* Torches/lanterns would be somewhat of a necessity/copper sink at least at lower levels.
* Arguments over who has to carry the light source, followed by BYOLight LFMs.
* Magic vision assistance gear could enter the system and help do "stealth" missions - at least when they give you the power to extinguish torches (and give mobs their own torches to light if they need to).
* You're a human creeping through an unlit bit of dungeon without a torch or magic light source, you bump into something and "someone" with a really deep voice says: "Dad, is that you?"
* Dark vision would look something like washing colours to black and white and limiting the range of rendered objects, superimposed with a proportion of the colour they would normally see if there is light - the closer to complete darkness, the more black and white the scenery gets and the less they see in the distance.
* Gamma options cranked right up regularly for human characters just starting out, and retinas burned out when they step back outside into the sunshine.
* Rainbow in the Dark could impose a magical suppression of vision abilities, creating a reliance on that particular torch. Everything else just gets that bit spookier/more mysterious (for first timers at least).
Properly implemented, it could improve the atmosphere, but I foresee it would be a lot of work!
Nysrock
07-27-2011, 12:06 AM
The fact you know that is sad. The fact I know is even sadder.
<<goes and stands in corner, banging her head to remove the horrid images of '80's saturday He**>>
Come on now DrWhofan. I have bought, and watched, that entire series on DVD. I grew up watching them and my son is enjoying them as much as I did. It was an awesome show.:)
DoctorWhofan
07-27-2011, 12:11 AM
Come on now DrWhofan. I have bought, and watched, that entire series on DVD. I grew up watching them and my son is enjoying them as much as I did. It was an awesome show.:)
Welll...If you don't mock Voltron. And Star Blazers.
Nysrock
07-27-2011, 12:18 AM
http://www.80scartoons.net/images/v/voltron.jpg
Voltron I remember watching along with Robotech.
Looking at the Star Blazers website it looks familiar but I really can't remember it too well.
Memnir
07-27-2011, 12:20 AM
Welll...If you don't mock Voltron.Who could mock Voltron?
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http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/Memnir/VoltronDance.gif
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He's got sweet moves.
sacredguyver
07-27-2011, 12:24 AM
Who could mock Voltron?
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http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/Memnir/VoltronDance.gif
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He's got sweet moves.
Something like that would be posted while I got some trance going. 'Tis a shame I can't +Rep you. :D
Tsuarok
07-27-2011, 12:25 AM
/signed
And to any devs reading this thread, a lot of the negativity in this thread is directed toward the OP, not the idea.
Keeping graphics competitively up to date will attract more new players, which results in more money for new content/bug fixes. First impressions are very important. The combat system is amazing and will keep players here, but you have to attract them at least long enough to get them into it.
Not to say that I dislike the graphics, but do continue to invest in their improvement.
Missing_Minds
07-27-2011, 01:33 AM
Of all examples, rift?
That is rift? I thought I was looking at the light side of Aion.
Missing_Minds
07-27-2011, 01:34 AM
He's got sweet moves.
That was good. This is cuter.
http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/voltron-girl.jpg
Hendrik
07-27-2011, 08:07 AM
Welll...If you don't mock Voltron. And Star Blazers.
Please tell me you like Godzilla too....
It's because I suggested it. Hence the PvP comments.
No, its just that we don't see the problem you do. (Plus you so poorly defined what you meant it would be hard to agree with you) The game you listed as an example doesn't seem any better than this one. The graphics are incredible in the newer parts of this game with a decent video card. The graphics already exceed the capabilities of the computers of alot of the people playing the game. I'd rather the art folks spend their time on new content or even fixing up things like game icons that are often copy/pasted duplicates (how many things use the rage icon now? How many shared icons are there when you GT/TP now? etc). The only thing that really should be made "prettier" are the face models for male elves and all half elves.
Feralthyrtiaq
07-27-2011, 08:25 AM
Like it says ^^^ LOL
Memnir
07-27-2011, 08:33 AM
That was good. This is cuter.Agreed! :)
Tho, I think the shot of her wearing the helmet is even cuter.
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http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad116/Memnir/voltrongirl.jpg
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sebastianosmith
07-27-2011, 08:45 AM
The fact you know that is sad. The fact I know is even sadder.
You want sad? I watched this every Saturday from my third year at university until it was canceled and I was employed at my first job. Also, I rushed home from class every afternoon to enjoy the Transformers - He-Man - G.I Joe - She-Ra Power Block!
Different time. Different standards.
sebastianosmith
07-27-2011, 08:59 AM
Implementing some sort of DnD style vision across races would be interesting...
Consider:
* Low-Light vision/Dark vision endowed races would be differentiated from those without. (Sorry, that Dwarfarian can see 60ft so will still run ahead and smash those barrels, and the elf can see quite well as long as there's a few glowing insects about. Humans will find walls and other obstacles with their noses and shins).
* Torches/lanterns would be somewhat of a necessity/copper sink at least at lower levels.
* Arguments over who has to carry the light source, followed by BYOLight LFMs.
* Magic vision assistance gear could enter the system and help do "stealth" missions - at least when they give you the power to extinguish torches (and give mobs their own torches to light if they need to).
* You're a human creeping through an unlit bit of dungeon without a torch or magic light source, you bump into something and "someone" with a really deep voice says: "Dad, is that you?"
* Dark vision would look something like washing colours to black and white and limiting the range of rendered objects, superimposed with a proportion of the colour they would normally see if there is light - the closer to complete darkness, the more black and white the scenery gets and the less they see in the distance.
* Gamma options cranked right up regularly for human characters just starting out, and retinas burned out when they step back outside into the sunshine.
* Rainbow in the Dark could impose a magical suppression of vision abilities, creating a reliance on that particular torch. Everything else just gets that bit spookier/more mysterious (for first timers at least).
Properly implemented, it could improve the atmosphere, but I foresee it would be a lot of work!
I like some of these suggestions. Obviously, not all quests are going to lend themselves to the pitch black scenario as the mobs aren't going to run about in total darkness within their own domains. I do think that cutting back on the ambient lighting and having more point sources would go a long way towards introducing some much need atmosphere. Having sconces or wall torches as the only light source would require a fair bit of effort. The light source methods introduced or optimized in DX10 and beyond would ease the task but leave out those folks still on XP and DX9.
Missing_Minds
07-27-2011, 09:02 AM
Agreed! :)
Tho, I think the shot of her wearing the helmet is even cuter.
Agreed, I just could not find that shot of her when I went looking.
You want sad? I watched this every Saturday from my third year at university until it was canceled and I was employed at my first job. Also, I rushed home from class every afternoon to enjoy the Transformers - He-Man - G.I Joe - She-Ra Power Block!
Different time. Different standards.
No Gem?
sebastianosmith
07-27-2011, 09:08 AM
No Gem?
I think you mean Jem.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kCRutxe_CNc/TbnyD8WJanI/AAAAAAAAHNU/wKXX0uiVpTw/s1600/jem+and+the+holograms.jpg
She may have been truly outrageous, but I already watched Josie and the Pussycats.
Gossamerblade
07-27-2011, 09:09 AM
The graphics in DDO have always had wonderful texture and detail (although there are many little things that could use tweaking). The main lack I see is color, especially in gear. Making my character look more awesome with coordinating gear would only add to my enjoyment of the game.
I'd love to have a "dressing room"-type UI for looking at gear before buying; I hate getting new armor that has that stupid "drool-cup" thing on the chest or "thigh-expanding" plates on the legs.
Cloaks. Cloaks are fun. Boots and gloves, not so much, because armor shows as a complete set, but cloaks are a separate thing.
I hate hate hate having to drop points for an armor kit preview! When I look at an armor kit in the store, I want to see a preview in the UI, with a drop-down menu for different armor types (cloth, leather, plate, etc.).
Daggertooth
07-27-2011, 09:44 AM
DDO has been out for over 5 years now, and I know it didn't start off super pretty.. but I think it could use a major revamp in how it looks. WoW is cartoony and sucks. I can't afford Rift, but it's super pretty. If DDO was amazingly pretty, that would be awesome! Ever notice how difficult it is to show your friend a cool screenshot of DDO? Like someone who hasn't played before... they don't get how great the combat system is, and some people judge a book by it's cover. This has been done before, I think it was U5 or something, where they redid a lot of the textures and made DDO prettier... My request: Please do it again! I want DDO to be pretty and HD looking.
I wouldn't mind a couple things being improved, maybe some spell effects getting some minor makeover, but remeber what makes DDO have such lasting appeal is that it can handle all those things going on at once and still maintain a -very- good framerate.
DDO is the ONLY game that allows the liberty and freedom it does and also has looks as good as it does and doesn't chug along. Ever play Age of Conan? It's a joke in terms of fluidty. Your character does the same stiff animations and can barely navigate up and down slopes. Being that DDO is basically a third person action game, with little to no lag whatsoever and actually HANDLES having 6 people in a dungeon in REAL TIME with so many things going on, I think you would rather NOT have any additional effects that chug the game down any more then it does. Like I said, I wouldnt mind some -minor- make over effects for some spells but thats about it. Everything else is good the way it is and if you can't find a good screen shot then I submit you don't know how to set up your visual settings.
Talias006
07-27-2011, 10:22 AM
I'm not opposed to it - more that I don't see an urgent need. And, I am all about the eye candy.
Me too, although I prefer my eye candy outside of the game IRL. But that's my opinion. :D :p
BWAHAhAHAHAHAAHAhAHAAAAAAWAWWREHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA HHHHH!!!
Must spread more hugs areound before any more memnir hugs.
I know, right? I've got a similar problem. All the guys/gals that have good stuff to say, whether on topic or not, are still on the "must wait longer to +rep this person" list. Grrrr! :mad: :D
Welll...If you don't mock Voltron. And Star Blazers.
The lions were light years better than the... 15 - 20 vehicle version. That one was so ridiculous. Not familiar with Star Blazers.
Although I am an avid Macross/Robotech fan. SDF-1! Blows the snot out of Voltron... Mostly because the arms of the SDF-1 were the size of freaking Aircraft Carriers.
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