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Darkstar1996
07-23-2011, 10:02 PM
Im looking for an All around Character Build. I LOVE CLERICS Spells. I Love the Barbarians Damage. but idk i might wanna add something else, Not Rogue (Barbarians can Sense Traps and Doors Later on), Not Bards (Crappy Music), Fighter (No Barbarians Own), HELLL NO FAVORED SOUL, So maybe add a Sorrcer or Wizard?

Can anyone help me with a Good Build? Might Be hard but Good build please? At least for a Barbarian/Cleric. I want something so i can Heal as Cleric and Buff as Cleric and Summon as Cleric, Blast Spells as Sorccer or Wizard, and Dish out heavy Damage as a Barbarian. (This will be a Alternative Character).

~Thank you~

Ullysses
07-24-2011, 01:42 AM
Wait, I think I misunderstand, hopefully.

Are you asking for a 'good' cleric/barb/wiz or cleric/barb/sorc build?

Is it April 1st already?

DoctorWhofan
07-24-2011, 01:58 AM
I dunno, clerics tend to be pretty good offensive casters in their own right.

If you wanna heal like a cleric but blast like a arcane, WF Wizard would be good. Hang out with other toasters and you will be healing them, buffing them and blasting.

The mix you are asking for is almost impossible. You see, every time you take a level in soemthing else, your DC of spell will decrease in your main class, thus if you did half and half (Sorc/cleric for example) at level 20 you would be as effective as a level 10 sorcerer or a level 10 cleric.

Another possiblity is helf diantte (sp). take the cleric (or FvS) one and Sorcerer. Then you can cast divine spells off of scrolls, pretty effectiveally. Expensive, but probably your best choice.

Culver.Civello
07-24-2011, 02:07 AM
Not Bards (Crappy Music)

Music? That is what you are worried about when it comes to bards? really? REALLY!?

Your asking for a heavily versatile build, and you exclude Bards which is probably the most versatile class in the game. The can fight and cast both arcane and divine spells... on top of that "Crappy Music". What spells they can't cast, they can get great UMD to cast any scroll you want. O.o I just... *Le'Sigh* don't get it. When it comes to a versatile character, you can't ask for much more than what the bard can offer. >.>

tekkentroop
07-24-2011, 02:12 AM
maybe a WF FVS is the thing for you: healing, decent melee damage (ofc not as good as a barb), and with the new pre you can use BB, DP and Cometfall for some nuking fun. You can also do that with a battle cleric (but then, you dont want a fighter splash) to an extend if you do it right, but if youre not doing it right you will become pretty unpopular.

I love my warchanter bard, but there are two things he definitely cant do: tank (ok, matter of equip) and nuke.

Lyzern
07-24-2011, 02:24 AM
You're looking for a Bard, you just don't know it. Maybe a Barbard even.

Ullysses
07-24-2011, 04:13 AM
I thought that was Bardbarian.

Luckness
07-24-2011, 04:50 AM
Can anyone help me with a Good Build? Might Be hard but Good build please? At least for a Barbarian/Cleric. I want something so i can Heal as Cleric and Buff as Cleric and Summon as Cleric, Blast Spells as Sorccer or Wizard, and Dish out heavy Damage as a Barbarian. (This will be a Alternative Character).

I once ran a throwaway level 4 character that was a WF Barbarian that splashed Sorc, named Gimpbot. It was pretty fun and got called a 'tank with the strangest build I have ever seen'. Warforged are nice for Barbarians under level 17 because of the fatigue immunity and just nice overall with enhancements for THF and power attack. They are also nice for Sorc or Wizard because they are self healing... so why not put these together?

The problem with that splash, and really any caster splash, is failing to take enough levels of the caster class for the casting to be effective. You can make up for melee damage with better gear but you cannot make up for failing at getting enough levels in the caster class. In my case I only splashed 1 level sorc, and the 1st level repair spell was just not big enough to top off the character fast enough.

Wizard and Sorceror have a large assortment of buffs, summons, and damage spells, and they can self heal if they are warforged, so they may be just what you are looking to splash with your Barbarian. You are going to want at least 11 levels Wizard or 12 levels of Sorceror to get the Reconstruct spell.

To be honest with you, though, there is another problem here, which is that Rage means you cannot cast at all. Barbarians without Rage are nothing special. You will not be able to keep rage up all the time, which greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the Barbarian side. You could choose to splash just 1 level barbarian for the runspeed and power attack enhancement.

Come to think of it, maybe you would like one of the zombie melee builds floating around, which splash wizard with monk in order to take advantage of the palemaster line and unarmed fighting. Not a bad way to go ... for fun.

Maybe you are less than sincere with your post, as others have also speculated. This is stereotypically one of the worst possible ways to multiclass. =)

Kinerd
07-24-2011, 05:32 PM
You would be much better off splashing fighter or monk into cleric if you want to be able to heal like a cleric while having more melee capability than they generally offer.

You would probably be best off making three separate characters.

Bodic
07-24-2011, 05:42 PM
So you want a THF healer, but wont go Lord of Blades w/laser cannon.

Therigar
07-24-2011, 05:43 PM
If this wasn't your third post in a year I'd have written you off as a troll.

As it is, I think you are serious.

So, I'll give you the serious answer. There is no build that can do what you want. As a result, it isn't worth the time or energy to try and cobble something together -- because no end result will meet the objectives you have set.

Lose any two of the goals and you're in business. Fight like a barbarian, check. Heal like a cleric, check. Blast like a sorcerer or wizard, check. But, fight like a barbarian and heal like a cleric and blast like a sorcerer/wizard, fail.

PestWulf
07-28-2011, 09:17 AM
If this wasn't your third post in a year I'd have written you off as a troll.

As it is, I think you are serious.



Funny, that's exactly what I thought! Checked his posts though...still, smells *really* trollish with the way he tweaked the bards nose and sent Culver into a tizzy. hehehe.

Anyway, I think if you want great healing without using a hireling and great damage you really need to give up on the Barbarian. There are plenty of classes out there that will do equal damage to a barbarian splash class. You're only going to see the "phenomenal" damage from a barbarian if you take it on up to 18. Stopping at 6 or 12 is going to be nice damage, but something that you can replicate with other classes/builds in my opinion.

If you want good damage and healing, but don't want your fighting coming from Fighter and you don't want your healing from a Favored Soul...then you may want to try a Cleric/Monk combo. Just decide if you want to be more caster or more melee to figure out your split. There are lots of Clonk builds on the boards that are great.

jaegarnel
07-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Im looking for an All around Character Build. I LOVE CLERICS Spells. I Love the Barbarians Damage. but idk i might wanna add something else, Not Rogue (Barbarians can Sense Traps and Doors Later on), Not Bards (Crappy Music), Fighter (No Barbarians Own), HELLL NO FAVORED SOUL, So maybe add a Sorrcer or Wizard?

Can anyone help me with a Good Build? Might Be hard but Good build please? At least for a Barbarian/Cleric. I want something so i can Heal as Cleric and Buff as Cleric and Summon as Cleric, Blast Spells as Sorccer or Wizard, and Dish out heavy Damage as a Barbarian. (This will be a Alternative Character).

~Thank you~

Frankly, between the gratuitous attacks on some classes (seriously bard is reduced to "crappy music"), the fanboyism for barbarians and asking for one build that can do everything (are you sure you don't want CC too? maybe you don't know what that is), I'm suspecting this of being a troll post.

In the event that you're actually serious, know what you've asked for is impossible, at least to any degree of effectiveness. Sure, you could do a melee cleric build with a barbarian splash (still a bad idea since you can't cast spells while raging AFAIK) for good melee power and good healing/buffs (you do know that clerics can be more than nannybots, though, don't you?), but there is no way to add nuking unless you count blade barrier kiting and divine punishment spam against bosses as nuking.

Have more reasonable expectations and then we might provide you with a decent multiclass build though.

flaggson
08-03-2011, 08:49 PM
despite your aversion to the "crappy music" what you are looking for is a Bard.. this will be the "closest" you will probably find you your expectations