Best hour long Shroud ever. [Archive] - Dungeons & Dragons Online Forums

Kmnh

07-14-2011, 10:49 AM

We had a fun shroud PUG on cannith this morning.

One of our wizards was a first timer and said so. The other didn't seem to speak english.

No haste, no GH on part 1 - ok, first timer wizards, we will cut them some slack. By the time I saw the second portal keeper, I started killing trash. Do you believe that people complained that I was killing trash instead of beating portals? I had a laugh at that one.

Part 2 went smoother than most PUGs, with a cleric cometfalling the crystal.

At part 3, the non-english-speaking wizard found a way out of his puzzle. He learned an important lesson about ddoor at the shroud. DCd without saying a word.

part 4 was a bit more painful than usual, our newbie wizard and one of our clerics died, the other cleric wasn't used to two-round harry and had to drink a few pots. I cleared the gnolls with my welfare scimitars and we killed harry.

part 5 took a good 3 minutes, but went smoothly. The same person that was complaning about my kill on part one missed the haste and blamed the wizard. So funny :P

I took our newbies for a tour through each part after we completed. No supreme shard yet. Good times, though.

As the title says best hour-long shroud ever.

cannith pugs ftw :)

Doomcrew

07-14-2011, 10:53 AM

At part 3, the non-english-speaking wizard found a way out of his puzzle. He learned an important lesson about ddoor at the shroud. DCd without saying a word.

:)

/chuckle. That one is a new one to me.

TheDjinnFor

07-14-2011, 10:54 AM

At part 3, the non-english-speaking wizard found a way out of his puzzle. He learned an important lesson about ddoor at the shroud. DCd without saying a word.

I've been told that typing /stuck will get you back with the group after part 5 is over, so whether or not that applies in this scenario (or is even true) might be interesting to know.

joaofalcao

07-14-2011, 11:07 AM

From times to times, I do an arcaneless shroud too. Gotta agree its preety challenging and satisfaying as well.

Shroud is a good plate to collect funny stories regardless.

You should have seen me killing gnolls and solo healling a 3 round pt4 run with the pots I found on quest.

And later being flamed for counting to altar before people have recalled.

Oh lols.

Binn05

07-14-2011, 11:12 AM

What happens if someone use ddoor at Shroud?

Kmnh

07-14-2011, 11:14 AM

What happens if someone use ddoor at Shroud?

They go back to the gate at the start and get locked out

Binn05

07-14-2011, 11:18 AM

They go back to the gate at the start and get locked out

Thank you.

Noelemahc

07-14-2011, 12:29 PM

No haste, no GH on part 1 - ok, first timer wizards, we will cut them some slack. By the time I saw the second portal keeper, I started killing trash. Do you believe that people complained that I was killing trash instead of beating portals? I had a laugh at that one.

1. Why do you need GH in part 1 shroud? Or in any part for that matter. If you can't hit the mobs, reroll. If you absolutely desperately nee GH for whatever reason, you should have the GH necklace clicky from Amrath. If you don't, then you need to get it. One more step in the way of self-sufficiency goes a long way.

2. If you were beating the portals and killing them faster then portal keepers wouldn't be appearing. Granted the wizards and divines could be clearing trash. All you have to do is tell them they need to be clearing trash if they don't know. Your solution was also part of the problem, and the others had a right to complain.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.

Kmnh

07-14-2011, 01:22 PM

1. Why do you need GH in part 1 shroud? Or in any part for that matter. If you can't hit the mobs, reroll. If you absolutely desperately nee GH for whatever reason, you should have the GH necklace clicky from Amrath. If you don't, then you need to get it. One more step in the way of self-sufficiency goes a long way.

2. If you were beating the portals and killing them faster then portal keepers wouldn't be appearing. Granted the wizards and divines could be clearing trash. All you have to do is tell them they need to be clearing trash if they don't know. Your solution was also part of the problem, and the others had a right to complain.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.

LOL

I have my GH clickie and I wouldn't need it. The 3 first timers and other newbies/casual players in the party did need it, and did get it after the wizard shrined. The fear spells stop the melees from attacking, and not everyone has high saves.

You don't need crazy DPS to complete a shroud, as our party could tell. You hardly need it anywhere in the game, tbh. Taking 30~40 seconds to kill a portal is perfectly OK.

Thanks for saying all that **** on a topic about good times with a PUG. When was the last time you've seen 3 first timers in a shroud?

My toons are public on MyDDO. Feel free to check my epeen :)

Musouka

07-14-2011, 01:25 PM

1. Why do you need GH in part 1 shroud? Or in any part for that matter. If you can't hit the mobs, reroll. If you absolutely desperately nee GH for whatever reason, you should have the GH necklace clicky from Amrath. If you don't, then you need to get it. One more step in the way of self-sufficiency goes a long way.

2. If you were beating the portals and killing them faster then portal keepers wouldn't be appearing. Granted the wizards and divines could be clearing trash. All you have to do is tell them they need to be clearing trash if they don't know. Your solution was also part of the problem, and the others had a right to complain.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.

Why do you assume people have the Devils of Shavarath pack? Also, you seem to assume everyone is at least level 18, if you expect them to use a min level 18 clicky. I understand there is a lower level GH clicky, but still. I haven't even farmed for that on any of my melees. It's not like everyone as to play your way, otherwise they should be berated.

It's a pug, I get it. People are going to complain. You are going to be playing with people that don't agree, but at the same time it's a game. Take everything, even the game like a grain of salt. That goes for those on both sides of the situation. Otherwise you're just going to get your panties in a bunch over a game.

knightgf

07-14-2011, 01:33 PM

This message is hidden because Noelemahc is on your ignore list. (http://forums.ddo.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist)

Oh I'm sorry, did you say something? What was that? Oh, that's right, I know why I can't hear you now. Move along people, move along...nothing to see here.

loki_3369

07-14-2011, 01:46 PM

Nice job K, however I think the shroud I was in where the caster kept a globe on harry and grease/sleet storm the whole time was the best hour long shroud ever ;)

Noelemahc

07-14-2011, 04:21 PM

I find it amusing that someone comes to the forum and posts a message with hidden undertones about people being noobs or stupid because they can't play the game well or are new. What is more amusing is someone calls their bluff, points out their own mistakes, then the other do-badders come out and defend him. Really, it's awesome.

Oh I'm sorry, did you say something? What was that? Oh, that's right, I know why I can't hear you now. Move along people, move along...nothing to see here.

You're so adorable that you pretend to have me on your ignore list, yet you care enough about what I say that you have to make a post pretending that you don't care about what I post. If you don't care, why are you taking the time out of your day to respond to me? Obviously you care, or else you're internet stalking me. Either way, I adore you too. *hugs* Keep on trolling, you might get good at it one day.

Arkat

07-14-2011, 06:25 PM

Why do you assume people have the Devils of Shavarath pack? Also, you seem to assume everyone is at least level 18, if you expect them to use a min level 18 clicky. I understand there is a lower level GH clicky, but still.

OMG...the GH clicky to which you are referring and the one that most Shroud newbs should have access to is the Planar Gird from the Xorian Cipher quest. The Planar Gird is a ML9 item. I have at least two on all of my toons.

Thucydides04

07-14-2011, 06:26 PM

Aces Over Kings would like to suggest that during PUG Shrouds you follow four simple rules to improve the overall experience:

1. Hit the altar in part 5
2. Hit the portal in part 4 immediately ( you can come back for your loot)
3. Break Crystals in Part 3, it is much more expedient and nobody needs medium ingredients.
4. Cast Grease and Sleet Storm whenever possible and Globe of Invulnerability on Harry.

Your shrouds will go much smoother and be a lot more fun.

That is all.

xxScoobyDooxx

07-14-2011, 11:11 PM

Cool story K, I had a similar "fun" Shroud run on the same day. Part 3 and we had one 3x3 in the top north to go. 3 people standing by the door and a first timer trying to solve. Finally the wall came just as one of the two casters was running to unlock. wham and 5-6 dead peoples ... no biggy someone grabs stones and brings them back to middle where I raise them on my FVS. Others run off and I wait in the middle. ... more 1 off wall deaths ..... After the wall went passed the middle entrance for the 3rd time I decided to contribute more than raises :) .... I winged it to the door, opened using a store bell, solved the puzzle and put the water in.

The bell was cheating I suppose. I could have carried a casters stone to the entrance raised him there and then completed but only thought of that solution while typing this.

It sure felt like a lot of first timers was in the run, more than usual, but we completed with many part 4 deaths and the odd part 5 death.

I actually enjoy these runs more when they go all wrong ... turns a boring chore into a bit of fun from time to time.

xxScoobyDooxx

07-14-2011, 11:27 PM

I find it amusing that someone comes to the forum and posts a message with hidden undertones about people being noobs or stupid because they can't play the game well or are new. What is more amusing is someone calls their bluff, points out their own mistakes, then the other do-badders come out and defend him. Really, it's awesome.

Hellof a job your doin there .... patrolling the forums to call out all the noobs posting stories with evil hidden undertones griefing other noobs. Hellof a bluff call there ... you sure put th OP in his place. The same OP that then took the new people ... sorry noobs .... on a tour afterwards to teach them some more ... yeah that OP is a really really a bad person with hidden undertones and all.

Hellanoobs often shoot from the hip then get all panty twisted when the forums point out they got it wrong. The OP for the record is one of the best players on the server. If you had any mates in any other guilds you could ask them and they would confirm this. Hellafail ... not unusual.

Pape_27

07-14-2011, 11:40 PM

Hellafail ... Not Unusual.

+1.

Calebro

07-15-2011, 12:24 AM

I've been told that typing /stuck will get you back with the group after part 5 is over, so whether or not that applies in this scenario (or is even true) might be interesting to know.

Unless something has changed, then that still works, which means it would have worked then as well. But that's assuming that the guy could understand someone in the party who explained it to him, and if that were the case then there wouldn't have been a need at all.

morticianjohn

07-15-2011, 07:56 AM

Hellof a job your doin there .... patrolling the forums to call out all the noobs posting stories with evil hidden undertones griefing other noobs. Hellof a bluff call there ... you sure put th OP in his place. The same OP that then took the new people ... sorry noobs .... on a tour afterwards to teach them some more ... yeah that OP is a really really a bad person with hidden undertones and all.

Hellanoobs often shoot from the hip then get all panty twisted when the forums point out they got it wrong. The OP for the record is one of the best players on the server. If you had any mates in any other guilds you could ask them and they would confirm this. Hellafail ... not unusual.

And one of the nicest players. Always willing to help. No elitist superior attitude in kmnh. Why the attack from Noel?

TEcarson

07-15-2011, 06:56 PM

loki_3369

07-15-2011, 10:55 PM

And one of the nicest players. Always willing to help. No elitist superior attitude in kmnh. Why the attack from Noel?

Was wondering the same thing...

Kmn is one of the nicest and best players on this server that I have played with. He has never had the elitist attitude that is infecting the server as long as I have known him.

Kmn's post didn't look like it had a "hidden undertone" to me and it seems the rest of the people who read it feel the same way. I don't understand where you got that idea from, maybe you have superior reading comprehension than the rest of us, but even if it did have a "hidden undertone" why would you care? I recall being in groups with you guys where you constantly trash other people for no reason whatsoever.

It seems a tad hypocritical to attempt to play forum police to protect the newbs with the way you act in-game. Maybe instead of criticizing someone and their decisions with no justification you should work on your own attitude there, buddy.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.
:)

Yalina

07-15-2011, 10:59 PM

Hellof a job your doin there .... patrolling the forums to call out all the noobs posting stories with evil hidden undertones griefing other noobs. Hellof a bluff call there ... you sure put th OP in his place. The same OP that then took the new people ... sorry noobs .... on a tour afterwards to teach them some more ... yeah that OP is a really really a bad person with hidden undertones and all.

Hellanoobs often shoot from the hip then get all panty twisted when the forums point out they got it wrong. The OP for the record is one of the best players on the server. If you had any mates in any other guilds you could ask them and they would confirm this. Hellafail ... not unusual.

Nice comment from someone who said in the middle of a Shroud that he had to go, because of emergency, then he relogged to his alt to join an epic Chrono...

insaneuou

07-15-2011, 11:02 PM

Cannith = Expect The Unexpected!

NinjaNeed

07-16-2011, 03:05 AM

1. Why do you need GH in part 1 shroud? Or in any part for that matter. If you can't hit the mobs, reroll. If you absolutely desperately nee GH for whatever reason, you should have the GH necklace clicky from Amrath. If you don't, then you need to get it. One more step in the way of self-sufficiency goes a long way.

2. If you were beating the portals and killing them faster then portal keepers wouldn't be appearing. Granted the wizards and divines could be clearing trash. All you have to do is tell them they need to be clearing trash if they don't know. Your solution was also part of the problem, and the others had a right to complain.

Not trying to be mean, just saying.

I know this has been addressed before in this thread but I just have to give my 2 cents!

1. Some people are lower level than you, some people have a lower to-hit than you, some people NEED GH just to hit stuff, I know I dont, I dont need it at all (for the to-hit), but I did when I was first leveling up. The only "free" GH clicky is the Planar Gird from Xorian Cipher and loot in that quest is very valuable, so its quite possible IF a noobie was lucky enough to loot one he would sell it instead of using it.

2. Not every group has the dps to destroy the portals that quick, not every caster has the DC's and power to kill all the trash, Kmnh was perfectly right to help kill the trash.

Nice comment from someone who said in the middle of a Shroud that he had to go, because of emergency, then he relogged to his alt to join an epic Chrono...

This really p's me off. People doing that are just plain rude! I can understand people needing to leave mid-raid, stuff happens, maybe their house is on fire or their child is sick etc but leaving to log an alt for a different raid = ignore list imho. I would as for a PM of the name but know thats against forums policy.

M0rfeo

07-16-2011, 03:51 AM

I was one of the 12 from the raid with Kmm..... It wasnt a Shroud, it was a pain! =)

Part4: Harry spawns and boooooooooooooom, 2-3 deads =)

Kmnh

07-16-2011, 04:33 AM

Nice comment from someone who said in the middle of a Shroud that he had to go, because of emergency, then he relogged to his alt to join an epic Chrono...

He came to help me get my charged gauntlets shard :o

I thought the shroud had not started yet :/

Yalina

07-16-2011, 05:31 AM

No worries, it was still an easy completion, and noone expected more from him, there were some jokes, and at least it wasnt a boring Shroud for a couple of minutes.:) I dont care if a Shroud needs to be shortman'ed (a sorcerer got dc and didnt come back also), but comments like that from someone like him is kinda funny.:)

Doxmaster

07-16-2011, 05:48 AM

This is Sarlona grade drama...eww.

Come on Cannith...if you're going to *try* to force drama, make it a bit better.

phayth

07-16-2011, 03:03 PM

Everyone play nice, stop throwing sand. If you get sand in my beer we are gonna go home!

nicnivyn

07-16-2011, 03:46 PM

See what I meant? It's always the people who don't matter that have to comment on everything.

Pot, meet kettle. This sort of thing makes me very sad. :(

End of commentary from peanut gallery.

Pape_27

07-16-2011, 04:00 PM

And of course I'm talking about pape and scoobynoob. Oh and the irony? With all the trash they talk, people still hit my lfms and beg to get in my raids.

hitting your lfm's? um, no. never. But nice try.

I wouldnt run with h***a p*o. ever. Basically I have zero respect for the guild leader. Nor would I ever click on one of your guildmates lfms as a result.

blaeze

07-16-2011, 04:17 PM

Eh, this is so boring... need more interesting drama =)

Kmnh

07-16-2011, 06:08 PM

It wasn't supposed to be a drama thread, you know...

Musouka

07-16-2011, 06:58 PM

It wasn't supposed to be a drama thread, you know...

I know Kmnh, I'm sorry... but I enjoyed reading the OP.

aristarchus1000

07-17-2011, 12:12 AM

It wasn't supposed to be a drama thread, you know...

Sorry kmnh. :(

I don't know, i find saving shroud runs kinda fun. I had a recent run with some clueless/new arcanes, but the other members of the team made it work out.

Miahoo

07-17-2011, 03:22 AM

Yalina

07-17-2011, 06:10 AM

I thought it because you found out he has a rogue as an alt and asked him to leave...

I wasnt the party leader.:)

You still cant pass on the fact u were declined, can ya?:( Sorry, if I dont bother to find more than one rogue for a quest, as I said before, it based some bad experiments. I always remember for the names of the good rogues, your name wasnt on that list. You have the right to prove me I was wrong, and you are awesome. Comments like that one wont help ya, cause people who knows me also knows, I have a capped legend rogue, with 2 rogue past life...

HelvanderSeries6

07-17-2011, 09:39 AM

I took our newbies for a tour through each part after we completed.

This is where you win.

Miahoo

07-17-2011, 10:21 AM

So you say I didnt read the LFM, but the fact the LFM said "DPS" might got me wrong? O.o

Weird. I dont remember I ever done any run with you. And I usually do remember stuff.

I remember 2 declines (one with your sor in that life), and 1 time the run cancelled after 15 minutes of waiting with not much people hitting the lfm.

.
..
...
Nope. Not a single run.

Yalina

07-17-2011, 10:30 AM

blaeze

07-17-2011, 10:31 AM

This is getting a little more interested, keep it up =)

Yalina

07-17-2011, 10:31 AM

I always find it funny when people jump on the spikes on elite :)

Yes, even with people screaming in voice chat, DONT jump on spikes.:)

blaeze

07-17-2011, 10:37 AM

if you dont jump on spike, how else are you gonna make shroud interesting... need to keep those lazy healers on their toes ya know.. =)

morticianjohn

07-17-2011, 11:04 AM

Miahoo

07-17-2011, 11:39 AM

We ran Shroud. But nobody remembers every Shroud, cause we run a lot of them. You were accepted in my guild ToD run also, based on improvements you made, you should remember that one, my "gimp" paladin was there. So weird, it was a completion with Sully killing... must be a coincidence...

Your name is one I wouldnt forget.

A shroud with which toon? and what have I done wrong?
All ToDs I've done except one ended up with suulo dead. and again, with which toon was that?

Yalina

07-17-2011, 11:40 AM

It's like I've been here but never been a part. This is great! I'm finally getting to know some things about who likes whom and why.

Let's just get it all out on the table so we can get over it and go back to being friends. I wonder how far reaching some of these issues are. Does something between 2 people affect their friends, guildies and friends of friends? I wonder if some of my friends actually hate each other and I don't know about it. I wonder if anyone hates me!?

Did ya check LFM these days? The lack of healers gives you more love than anytime before, but sadly, its only for your healer.:) I get so many tells when I log on my fvs, I dont know whats happening and where are the healers lately... It's only a game, dont need to be friends with everyone here, but you dont want to hurt other people's feelings either - you play for the fun, you wanna enjoy your playing time. I have some bad feelings towards some people, I usually decline them, maybe they were hurt by that, but my first rule is - enjoy the game:)

Yalina

07-17-2011, 11:50 AM

Your name is one I wouldnt forget.

A shroud with which toon? and what have I done wrong?
All ToDs I've done except one ended up with suulo dead. and again, with which toon was that?

It was probably one of your first Shroud, I cant count them, but I always remember people's name who dies in a Shroud where my fvs heals, there are not many (lag, dc doesnt count), so try to remember, I bet u didnt die too many times. Its my bad, I even remember the bard who messed the puzzle in Reavers fate, the lvl 13 rogue, who wasnt able to disable traps in a normal HISP ("sorry, im an assassin build"), and died on the next trap... and etc. I dont write a list of names, just remember them. It doesnt mean I think I am much better than those people - I'm just more experienced.

I have only 3 characters on Cannith, all gimps of course, but experience helps.

Ehllie

07-17-2011, 12:01 PM

I can see yalina & miahoo are putting some effort in the name of cannith drama. +1 to both of you !! :)

Yazzira

07-17-2011, 12:10 PM

but my first rule is - enjoy the game:)

+1

Greetings

Miahoo

07-17-2011, 12:21 PM

OK, so your'e judging me based of my 1st shrouds?? and dont say you dont count it, because you already said "based on bad experience with you"!

So yeah.. my 1st shroud.
When I was 17. When I've never capped a toon before. When I was f2p. When I had 320HP. When I had no gs/amarath/any good items. When +2 acid repair was my main hand. When I didn't know I can use scrolls with my UMD. When I thought TR means Top Rank. When I was sure ToD is Tear of Dhakaan. When 100k seemed so much. When people were talking about Epic scrolls, I thought "heh, I just leave them in the chest...". When I thought you can buy those ~wings~ in the TR names. When I was sure any vale quest takes at least 1 hour to complete.

My 1st shroud...

You know what, you right. I fold.

Musouka

07-20-2011, 11:46 PM

After all the stuff he filled this thread with, which is thankfully no longer shown, we come to this http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=330682

xxScoobyDooxx

07-21-2011, 01:00 AM

Interesting ... I missed what he posted because it was deleted before I got to read it. I saw one quote that had him dogging me (which was not unexpected after my post).

The night this post started going down hill I was in game and hit an LFM one of our guildies was already in and so did K. We both didn't get accepted. I didn't even realise it was his run as I hadn't matched the forum name to his characters in game. Funny as it would be the first time running with Hellapro in over 6 months and I had to pick that night to hit it up one of his lfms. Talk about fueling the fire. Pure coincidence.

If he wants to stop the drama .... he should come back to this thread and apologise which would be a good start. Until then the drama will continue, guild leader meetings or not.

Miahoo

07-21-2011, 01:33 AM

After all the stuff he filled this thread with, which is thankfully no longer shown, we come to this http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=330682

It wasn't a guild argument. It was personal issue.
I dont have problems with Yalina's guild, and it wasn't me who started with "your guild is nom nom nom" stuff.

I do (try to) join Hella/Zerg/whateverguild's lfms when a pugger spot is open.

And about my posts, let me help you with it: http://forums.ddo.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist