Fleshshapers Brigandine

[Gaijinn]

So I got one of these the other day, I was using Marilith Chain, but now I'm need some advice from fellow barbarians on how important +5 reflex save is for us, I'm using Tharnes, will be crafting a seeker pair of goggles, with +6 or higher so seeker isnt an issue. I will lose the SA from tharnes, but maybe swap it in epics such as big top where the attack bonus is needed.

So basically, I slotted it with +10 reflex, it has disintegration guard and +10% heal amp, plus a minor useful 20% neg damage absorb.

How useful is this for Barbarians? Is it better than a Marilith Chain if you can slot seeker into another item? Is the +5 reflex that useful?

[scottmike0]

So I got one of these the other day, I was using Marilith Chain, but now I'm need some advice from fellow barbarians on how important +5 reflex save is for us, I'm using Tharnes, will be crafting a seeker pair of goggles, with +6 or higher so seeker isnt an issue. I will lose the SA from tharnes, but maybe swap it in epics such as big top where the attack bonus is needed.

So basically, I slotted it with +10 reflex, it has disintegration guard and +10% heal amp, plus a minor useful 20% neg damage absorb.

How useful is this for Barbarians? Is it better than a Marilith Chain if you can slot seeker into another item? Is the +5 reflex that useful?

all depends if you put points into dex and what your reflects is with the item. if its at 30 with item then its highly useful otherwise its your choice

[Gaijinn]

I will have 35 reflex with holy aura.

[Gaijinn]

Gonna use it for a while and see if it pays off, will lesser necro this post later on if I found this item to be useful or not.

[TheDearLeader]

Since when can seeker be crafted onto goggles? I thought Cannith Crafting only allowed weapons to get Seeker.

[Gaijinn]

Haven't really checked if you're able to craft it onto goggles, but if not. there's a pair of easy to get goggles from acute delirium. Which also has sneak attack on them, it's only +4 seeker but still useful.

[TheDearLeader]

Haven't really checked if you're able to craft it onto goggles, but if not. there's a pair of easy to get goggles from acute delirium. Which also has sneak attack on them, it's only +4 seeker but still useful.

Nono, agreed entirely. You just had me questioning why I hadn't crafted some already. :D

Seeker +4 can also be found from Mentau's goggles, btw. No SA damage, but as a Barb I'm not sure how concerned you are about SA.

[Gaijinn]

Nono, agreed entirely. You just had me questioning why I hadn't crafted some already. :D

Seeker +4 can also be found from Mentau's goggles, btw. No SA damage, but as a Barb I'm not sure how concerned you are about SA.

Yup mentaus too, those are quite much rarer than the goggles from acute delirium.
Not too much concerned about SA, as I said above it would mostly be too swap/use for high AC bosses in epics such as big top.

I believe Shade used mentaus a lot with a DT armor and litany? I think 4 seeker might be enough then. Not too much difference between +4 and +6

[Kinerd]

We can calculate your DPS loss from losing 2 seeker. We'll use an epic Sword of Shadows, that way your actual loss can't possibly be any higher.

2 seeker * 3 multiplier * 6 range = 36 damage per 20 swings = 1.8 damage per swing
1.8 damage per swing * (99.1 / 60) swings per second = 2.973 DPS

This is against a 0 fort target, every critical confirmed. Glancing blows are irrelevant, as no criticals occur on glancing blows.

35 is usefully better than 30 Reflex save, even more so if you don't get Holy Aura. I would say it's certainly worth more than 3 crummy DPS, plus you get a little healing amp. Seems like a good call to me.

[dingal]

So I got one of these the other day, I was using Marilith Chain, but now I'm need some advice from fellow barbarians on how important +5 reflex save is for us, I'm using Tharnes, will be crafting a seeker pair of goggles, with +6 or higher so seeker isnt an issue. I will lose the SA from tharnes, but maybe swap it in epics such as big top where the attack bonus is needed.

So basically, I slotted it with +10 reflex, it has disintegration guard and +10% heal amp, plus a minor useful 20% neg damage absorb.

How useful is this for Barbarians? Is it better than a Marilith Chain if you can slot seeker into another item? Is the +5 reflex that useful?

Keep the marilith chain. A pure barb has 800hp worth of reflex save

HP Goggles for when you have aggro, tharnes for when you don't. There are quite a few useful trinkets you could use instead of a bloodstone. Greater Bold Trinket, Litany of the Dead etc.

I'll edit this to say you want to be shooting for the Epic CLaw set for 30% healing amp and slotting 20% in one TOD ring. If you really want to go crazy get a finger necklace for tanking to grab another 10.

Epic Envenomed Cloak for +5 reflex save
Epic BRacers of the Claw +2 Con Heavy Fort
Epic Gloves of the Claw +6 Str, 30% Healing Amp + Set bonus
Shintao Neck/Finger Neck
Knost's Belt
Greater Bold Trinket/Litany of the Dead/Elec/Fire absorb trinket
Epic Sword of Shadow
Madstone Boots
Encrusted Ring (Slotted +2 str)
Kyosho's Band (Slotted 20% healing amp)
Epic Marilith Chain (Slotted Toughness)

Optionally you could do Helm of Frost + Epic Boots of Corrosion for Greater Abishai set bonus

If you made an event hat I recommend wearing +15 Intim +6 Charisma. Intim is actually important even for a high DPS high threat barbarian with Sorcs doing the DPS they do.