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karnokvolrath
07-14-2011, 09:22 AM
I get that you made crafting harder and LDS fit the scheme for lawful/chaotic/evil outsider ext ext. But really, why LDS on clearly the best bane? All you have done is further inflate the only ing people care about, and further diminish the rest.

People have entire charicters built just to farm the grind that is the shroud, only to get slapped in the mouth once every three days and try again.

So in closing...for the 100,000th time, make a converter, i dont even care if the thing was something like 5:1, even 10:1.

If i loot one more bone ill shoot myself.

:D

jakeelala
07-14-2011, 09:29 AM
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Delacroix
07-14-2011, 10:16 AM
If i loot one more bone ill shoot myself.

Unfortunately, you will die very, very soon.

Tarragon12
07-14-2011, 10:34 AM
Devil scales are staple. They should be made more rare, not less.

karnokvolrath
07-14-2011, 11:38 AM
The errie part is im in SLC visiting family...twilight zone.



Devil scales are staple. They should be made more rare, not less.

No.

The only reason you -think- devil scales are a staple is because of there over use in most the good greensteel. They where originally made to have same drop/rarity as all the rest, but due to weapon damage mechanics and years of people making specific items they have became more rare then the rest.

This futhers the gap, instead of closing it. Maybe you think thats a good idea, but i assure you, you are in the minority.

Doganpc
07-14-2011, 12:05 PM
People have entire charicters built just to farm the grind that is the shroud, only to get slapped in the mouth once every three days and try again.You might be doing it wrong... I know by not completing you pass on 2 chests, but you get to keep running the quest. Personally I like to get a few incomplete runs in before I complete and play something else for a few days.

Also.. when we going to base the economy one large devil scales? Obviously Platinum isn't good enough anymore.

Dogan
:eyeroll:

karnokvolrath
07-14-2011, 12:10 PM
You might be doing it wrong... I know by not completing you pass on 2 chests, but you get to keep running the quest. Personally I like to get a few incomplete runs in before I complete and play something else for a few days.

This is mildly afffective if you like lots of smalls/mediums(one chance at a large). The only way to really farm shroud is with multiple capped charicters. Im not doing it wrong, nor is anyone else. ITs just the way it is, and getting worse.

Anyway, the whole point is that we need a converter.

elixer1
07-14-2011, 12:10 PM
/signed

I don't care how, or how expensive it is, especially now with the decreased importance of green steel (many more higher level, easily obtainable named items from the madness chains, crafting, etc.) I think the time has come to make GS crafting a little easier. I would love to see a way to convert small and medium ingredients into larges. make it 100 to one, I don't care, but lets loosen the purse straps a bit.

karnokvolrath
07-14-2011, 01:46 PM
/signed

I don't care how, or how expensive it is, especially now with the decreased importance of green steel (many more higher level, easily obtainable named items from the madness chains, crafting, etc.) I think the time has come to make GS crafting a little easier. I would love to see a way to convert small and medium ingredients into larges. make it 100 to one, I don't care, but lets loosen the purse straps a bit.

Ya, any ratio is better then the one we have now...the one that is zero.

Im really hoping greensteel decon is soon and with it they make some kind of converter.

Meds to larges would be great but id settle for larges to larges at this point.

Bobthesponge
07-14-2011, 02:26 PM
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why are we asking again to make some of the most powerful items in the game easier to get? the drop rate is fine and WAI. wanting something NE getting something. when you do finally get your 5 LDS for that tier 3 double shard it should be an accomplishment, not just something that is guaranteed after your 3rd or 4th run.

so yes, this is an Easy Button. so no no no no no.

karnokvolrath
07-14-2011, 02:53 PM
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why are we asking again to make some of the most powerful items in the game easier to get? the drop rate is fine and WAI. wanting something NE getting something. when you do finally get your 5 LDS for that tier 3 double shard it should be an accomplishment, not just something that is guaranteed after your 3rd or 4th run.

so yes, this is an Easy Button. so no no no no no.

For having a 2006 you would think you know better. 1st i never said anything about drop rate. 2nd...what are you talking about 4 runs? read.....


3rd. THIS IS NOT AN EASY BUTTON!

Let me break it down for you... My main has all the greensteel he will ever want (including toys)

Currently in stash - 32 large bones, 34 large arrows, 19 large chains, 16 large shraps, 15 large stones, 3 large devil scales.

Those numbers are after i AH all larges past 30 once a month or so, ive prolly sold off 30+ bones and arrows. And recently traded like 10 non-scale larges for some epic scrolls.

I have over 100 (it may be closer to 200, not really sure) completions on various past lifes/alts (i know thats not nearly as many as some people but its still alot).

Not an easy button, a im bored of running shroud 100000000 times if i deside to make an alt. While my 30+ bones, arrows sit in my bag endlessly.

My op said i didnt care if the ratio was 10:1, how is THAT an easy button, that = a minimum of 5 shroud to ensure one, count it ONE LDS, and thats if you landed all of the same ING type, and got a large in part 4 everytime.

Krago
07-14-2011, 02:59 PM
I get that you made crafting harder and LDS fit the scheme for lawful/chaotic/evil outsider ext ext. But really, why LDS on clearly the best bane? All you have done is further inflate the only ing people care about, and further diminish the rest.

People have entire charicters built just to farm the grind that is the shroud, only to get slapped in the mouth once every three days and try again.

So in closing...for the 100,000th time, make a converter, i dont even care if the thing was something like 5:1, even 10:1.

If i loot one more bone ill shoot myself.

:D

If I have to kill one more Evil/Lawful Outsider, Ill shoot myself. This is the only reason why its the best bane weapon because of the choice of mobs at end game.

When they add in the halfling armies on lvl 20 quests, then you can use that flaming burst of greater halfling bane you have luckily kept, to set the buggers on fire.