Stanley Cup

[Cam_Neely]

Go Bruins!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Vn35Ybr90

That is all.

[ArkoHighStar]

http://www.cbc.ca/hockeyhistory/images/ep07_VancouverCanucks.jpg

[English_Warrior]

Who is Stanley Cup?

No but seriously.....good luck to you....my team (Chicago) went out in round 1 against Vancouver....so I hope Boston give them the beating they deserve. :)

[PNellesen]

Watching hockey in June... I remember what that was like. Sigh. (Blues fan here. I'm beginning to forget what the playoffs were like now :( )

[Vyder]

Bruins in 5

[Kovalas]

I've been watching from the quarter finals and not even American/Canadien!!!

Go Canucks!!!

Oooooo those 4am finishes are taking there toll

Kov

[mattysixEU]

bruins to win in game 6!

[SaisMatters]

VANCOUVER FTW!

Boston pizza is so ashamed of the Bruins they changed their name to Vancouver Pizza in B.C.!!! lol

[Caine33]

bruins to win in game 6!

Agree with this!

[CrushingInklings]

Go Bruins!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Vn35Ybr90

That is all.


http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=2977113&postcount=5

[Roland_D'Arabel]

Vancouver in 5. We have too much depth for the Bruins and we are too fast. And we have a secret weapon... Manny is back! You Bruins fans will have to keep waiting, it's Vancouver's turn :D

[CrushingInklings]

http://buffalo74.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/claudekfc.png?w=320&h=400

http://astroguy.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/billjulian.gif

[English_Warrior]

http://buffalo74.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/claudekfc.png?w=320&h=400

Lol nice :)

[Cam_Neely]

ok now that we got some other input.

Bruins in 6. They are going to let them play this late in the playoffs, which hugely favors the B's and our shameful Power Play. I think Bergeron is going to shake the remaining cobwebs from this hit off and lead a very strong second line. Luch and gang are going to be very strong. Luch is going to control the front of the net for the first time in the play offs, and with that, horton is going to go nuts. 'Nucks are good, but ...

Julien does look alot like that! Not a huge fan of his (2 for 45 or whatever IS the coaches fault.), seems to out of it, and does not seem to do a ton of in game changes. But cant complain, he did get them here.

Ulf Samuelsson is a no talent goon.

[Battlehawke]

Go Bruins...

[CrushingInklings]

IMO the series is going to come down to Thomas. If hes on his game it doesn't mater how well the Nucks play. They could very well totally out play the Bs and still loose this series.

Seidenbeg and Ehrhoff are two of my favorite players in the league so i'm having a really hard time deciding who to cheer for. I guess i just should be happy that we got two teams who have not won the cup in awhile battling it out. I just really hope its a long series to help shorten those few months we have to go with out hockey during the summer.

[lazyninja81]

VANCOUVER FTW!

Boston pizza is so ashamed of the Bruins they changed their name to Vancouver Pizza in B.C.!!! lol

lol

Go Canucks!

[Cam_Neely]

VANCOUVER FTW!

Boston pizza is so ashamed of the Bruins they changed their name to Vancouver Pizza in B.C.!!! lol

Ha, I saw this. Lived my whole life in New England and never heard of 'Boston Pizza'. They dont have one store in the US, and have no ties that I can tell of to Boston.

Anywho, Sal's Pizza is so much better!

[LordMond63]

I agree with the poster above....it's going to come down to Tim Thomas.

If he can up his play even a notch (from an already high standard), it's going to mean alot more 2-1 and 1-0 games. Boston isn't going to win a shoot-out with Vancouver and there's only one Chara.

If Vancouver wins, it's going to be in 5 or 4 games and the scores won't be close; if Boston wins, it's going to be 6 or 7 games and they'll be low-scoring.

Boston in 7.

[Kelavam]

I actually like both teams. They are both good solid teams and either deserves the cup...

But since it can go to only one.. My prediction is Bruins in 6, but that does not mean I will be disappointed if the Canucks take it.

My Red Wings lost in round 2, almost pulled it out, but after they are gone, I just watch the games because I love the game of hockey!

[Khanyth]

Disclaimer:
As a dire hard Avs fan, when it comes to the playoffs and the Avs aren't in/have been elliminated, I have an ABCD philosophy:
Anyone
But the
Canadiens/Calgary/Canucks or
Detroit.

*****

That being said, it's gonna be Vancouver in 5 .... maybe 6.

3 main reasons:

1. Rest. All the bashing and brusing against the other teams in the west have gone awayish... Vancouver is healthy and hungry.
2. Vancouver make you pay for your mistakes... and Boston has made a lot of mistakes despite getting out of the East. To win, Boston has to play >>>flawless<<< hockey and they haven't done that so far.
3. Vancouver have had better competition to get them through. IMHO: the reason why the West win the cup and is so dominant against the East, is that the team that makes it out of the West, is so much more battle tested and has had to perform at such an elite level for their first 12 games, that the last 4 is just a continuation. The western team just hits the ground running, whereas the East has to rev up. Again: JMHO.

Don't get me wrong: I'm still holding true to my ABCD philosophy...... but I just don't think it's gonna happen. I'd love to see Boston pummel them into nothingness and watch Chara lift the Cup.. But I just don't think it's gonna happen.

[dopey69]

canucks in five

lots of reasons why but mostly average age of boston is ....im guessing umm.....40 ? lol just kidding

the twins woke up in the sanjose series luongo is playing solid in net (sept for the odd bain fart)

i see no issues with taking boston out .I think we might get beat the first game in van because we have been waiting around so long .

[Monkey_Archer]

Canucks in 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa1pIO4_lUY

That is all :D

[PNellesen]

canucks in five

lots of reasons why but mostly average age of boston is ....im guessing umm.....40 ?

You say that like it's a bad thing? Experience and a willingness to "push the rules to the limits - and then just a smidge beyond" will beat youth and enthusiasm every time!

;)

[Aurora_nyx]

Being the good Canadian girl I am(flames fan at that)

GO Canucks !!!!!

awesome game tonight too

[Slink]

Hockey died with this man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsiqkTgLZ5o

[SaisMatters]

well thats one in the bag for the Canada Canucks! :)

[CrushingInklings]

Grats to any Winnipeg fans out there. I'm very excited yinz are getting a team back. Cant wait to see how the new divisions are going to look.

Oh and if there is any reason to party as a hockey fan. Colin Campbell announced he is stepping down!

[CrushingInklings]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmar3oaO0g1qercxjo1_250.gif

[Cam_Neely]

hum... ok...

well maybe by the start of the game tonight we have realized that losing the Stanley Cup due to our inability to dump a puck is not how we want to be remembered.

GO BRUINS!

[Iaga]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmar3oaO0g1qercxjo1_250.gif Beautiful!

And as a die Hard Habs fan (who is also Canadian) i'm hoping the bruins get what they deserve (swept in 4 baby!!)

[ArloOne]

As long as the Bruins don't get eaten by the Canucks They will win in Game 7!!!!!

Question for Vancouver fans:

Does the name Bruins translate into back bacon in Canuckian?

[SaisMatters]

Do you know what time it is in Vancouver? It's twelve past Luongo!

[Cam_Neely]

GO BRUINS!
QFT!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_q56qYWJWy6A/TXLdsQAg_vI/AAAAAAAACr0/TuQdQXMwWWA/TopGun_Thomas.jpg

[kafrielveddicus]

Bruins rule, Thomas is the greatest!!!!

[Pallol_One-Eye]

Series at 2-2 and game 5 tonight in Vancouver. If Bs win tonight, then its over.

Vancouver has proven they cannot win in Boston, plain and simple. The last 2 games they looked like an AHL team. No discipline, no forecheck and the Bruins simply punched them in the mouth and dared them to respond. Looks like someone forgot to check their spines through customs.

Tonight will tell all, no pressure on Boston at all, since "everyone" picked the Canucks to win easily in the first place.

Go Bruins, it has been a while. And no, Ray Borque bringing the Cup back for everyone to look at while he was playing for Colorado didn't really count as a win. ;)

[Khanyth]

Go Bruins, it has been a while. And no, Ray Borque bringing the Cup back for everyone to look at while he was playing for Colorado didn't really count as a win. ;)

As an Avs fan, we thank you for him.

[Cam_Neely]

As an Avs fan, we thank you for him.

honestly, I thanks the Avs for getting him one. Its quite sad that we could not put a good enough team around him to win it here.

Bruins chase Luongo in the second to a choirs of boos. Good guys win, to finish it up here in Boston

GO BRUINS!

[Setin_Myways]

Should be an Epic game tonight. I am pulling for Boston -Original 6.

With the Winnipeg move, I am hoping the Wings will return to the east, as the only team in the western conference that is in the eastern time zone (columbus and Nashville are central right). Rumor has it bettman (spits 3 times) promised us a move back to the eastern finals the next time a spot opened , but all speculation is this will never happen because so many teams need the wings to play in their stadium to fill it up form time to time. Phoniex actally charges more for tickets when the wings play than other teams (not sure if they do this for any other teams as well).

Add to that how dominate the Wings would be in the East, and I doubt it would happen... how could the eastern teams with the star players the NHL is marketing ever succeed?

But it is great hockey to watch.

[PNellesen]

So Cam, guess I shouldn't bother looking for you later tonight, huh? ;)

Good luck Bruins! If it can't be the Blues, then I have to root for the American team (unless it's Detroit... ugh...)

[Khanyth]

Should be an Epic game tonight. I am pulling for Boston -Original 6.

With the Winnipeg move, I am hoping the Wings will return to the east, as the only team in the western conference that is in the eastern time zone (columbus and Nashville are central right). Rumor has it bettman (spits 3 times) promised us a move back to the eastern finals the next time a spot opened , but all speculation is this will never happen because so many teams need the wings to play in their stadium to fill it up form time to time. Phoniex actally charges more for tickets when the wings play than other teams (not sure if they do this for any other teams as well).

Add to that how dominate the Wings would be in the East, and I doubt it would happen... how could the eastern teams with the star players the NHL is marketing ever succeed?

But it is great hockey to watch.

Agreed: Detroit isn't going anywhere.... sorry. Don't get me wrong: I'd love for them to move to a lower pit in Hell.... but that's a sidepoint.....

Detroit to the east is just something I can't see it happening... there's changes and then there's shakeups and then there's blowing the whole thing up. Replacing Atlanta, a consistantly underachieving, low tier team in the East.... with one of the top teams in the West, if not the whole NHL, for the past 15 years is too uber of a shift.... every team in the Eastern conference with SC aspirations would put up roadblocks left right and centre for this. Detroit would own the East for years. Sorry, but it's true.

Columbus would be an equitable move... they're just as crappy as Atlanta was. Nashville maybe. But Detroit, ach du lieber, that would be too much of a shake up.

[Cam_Neely]

So Cam, guess I shouldn't bother looking for you later tonight, huh? ;)


meh, might be back for some late drunken weapon shipment, although my quest log is looking like this right now...

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GO BRUINS!

[PNellesen]

meh, might be back for some late drunken weapon shipment, although my quest log is looking like this right now...

Completed Dungeon "The Weapons Shipment"
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GO BRUINS!

No, you copied mine by mistake.

Oh wait, I have an ADQ in there every couple days too. Nevermind...

(Argh! - came in 2nd TWICE now on rolls for the Torc, but those Bracers of The Demon's Consort almost made up for it.)

[CrushingInklings]

Almost got my new toon capped to 20. I think a lot of you old school hockey fans will appreciate the name i choose for him.

http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/zarley/

[kafrielveddicus]

QFT!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_q56qYWJWy6A/TXLdsQAg_vI/AAAAAAAACr0/TuQdQXMwWWA/TopGun_Thomas.jpg

This is awesome!!!!

[Cam_Neely]

Embellishment? Really? Twice?? Really?? Thought we already beat Montreal. Are all Canadian teams like that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Z7OZ2Bta4

[SaisMatters]

Tonights the night! It comes down to the wire.

My prediction-------Riot in Vancouver after the game!

[Caine33]

Bruins tonight for the win

Thomas for MVP...regardless of outcome

[Cam_Neely]

Thomas for MVP...regardless of outcome

My prediction-------Riot in Vancouver after the game!
Both correct.

My prediction? Bruins remember how to dump and chase away from home and win it. 3-1



GO BRUINS!

[auximenes]

So Cam, how do you feel about all of the stuff BOS gets away with because Campbell's boy plays for BOS? :cool:

[Caine33]

I don't know...for everything Boston gets away with...it seems that there is a lot of 'soccer coaching' of what to do when the big guy hits you.

[Khanyth]

So Cam, how do you feel about all of the stuff BOS gets away with because Campbell's boy plays for BOS? :cool:

Considering Mike Murphy is in charge of discipline in the series and Shanahan is taking over Campbell's job.... I think Collie Campbell has had no choice but to sit back, relax, put on his harness, put on the velcro gloves, get a case of KY, and a kennel of fluffy dogs for this series.

[Cam_Neely]

So Cam, how do you feel about all of the stuff BOS gets away with because Campbell's boy plays for BOS? :cool:

ha, get out the tinfoil, and i dont mean for under the gloves:)

Boston plays rough hockey. They dont skate as well, and dont have great hands top to bottom as other teams that go deep in the playoffs. The Campbell thing is not relevant, the disciplinarian Campbell has been on vacation since the stanly cup started, he has nothing to do with any decision since it started.

Ill assume you are talking about the Raymond thing vs Horton. Really sucks for Raymond, that was a weird accident, probably an interference call, but not a suspension, Boychuk could have really hit him into the boards, but let up, and it was just a bad way to go into the boards. Not comparable at all to the Horton hit, which was 1+second late and Rome left his feet (something that is never talked about). For a long time, leaving your feet to do a hit gets you suspended. They gave it 4 games (to long) cause NHL dropped the ball on the bite thing, and that got more media coverage then the game. They wanted to overcompensate for that. 2 game suspension max.

The Cunucks and Canadians brought it on their self. They flop everywhere, so these calls that they should get, they dont. If they stood up and played hockey, the refs would not hold the whistle.

[PNellesen]

MOAR HOCKEY FAN DRAMA!

*munches popcorn*

[Pallol_One-Eye]

Hockey is a man's game. Take a hit, dish it back out. If you have an issue, drop the gloves and settle it right there.

The flopping that Vancouver used throughout the playoffs finally has had a boot thrown down on the throat. This is not the Premiere Leauge playoffs here.

Boston needs to remember what got them to this point. They need to play smart through the neutral zone, dump and chase and finish thier checks.

Don't worry about Thomas being overaggressive, thats what got you to this point.

To hear Luongo talk smack about the "soft goal" Thomas let up in game 5 is, simply put, pathetic. Thomas has allowed what, 7 goals in 6 games? Seems to me Luongo gave up 12 in just 2. Maybe homeboy should shut his yap and concentrate a bit more, no?

Anyway, Boston wins tonight, 4-2 after scoring 2 goals within the first 10 minutes of the first period.

/my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

[auximenes]

Considering Mike Murphy is in charge of discipline in the series and Shanahan is taking over Campbell's job.... I think Collie Campbell has had no choice but to sit back, relax, put on his harness, put on the velcro gloves, get a case of KY, and a kennel of fluffy dogs for this series.
I'm just a slightly disgruntled TB fan, stirring the pot. My Campbell comment is more of a general statement, not specifically regarding the play-offs.

I'm still a bit peeved that Horton got a quiet slap-on-the-wrist for his water bottle incident, when the precedent was already set that physically interacting with a spectator will get you at least a 1-game suspension. I don't condone anyone throwing anything on the ice, but there were BOS fans as well as TB fans tossing those things.


ha, get out the tinfoil, and i dont mean for under the gloves:) Boston plays rough hockey. They dont skate as well, and dont have great hands top to bottom as other teams that go deep in the playoffs. The Campbell thing is not relevant, the disciplinarian Campbell has been on vacation since the stanly cup started, he has nothing to do with any decision since it started.

The Cunucks and Canadians brought it on their self. They flop everywhere, so these calls that they should get, they dont. If they stood up and played hockey, the refs would not hold the whistle.
Re: Canadian teams and their penchant for diving. One has to look no further that TOR to see that clearly. There's a little joke on the local message board about the XO Sniper. A section of the Club level at the Forum used to be called the XO Club, and when TOR was in town, the way TOR players would go spinning down to the ice it looked like they got shot by a sniper. Good times.


To hear Luongo talk smack about the "soft goal" Thomas let up in game 5 is, simply put, pathetic. Thomas has allowed what, 7 goals in 6 games? Seems to me Luongo gave up 12 in just 2. Maybe homeboy should shut his yap and concentrate a bit more, no?
Re: Luongo. Screw that loser. I hope he never even sniffs a trophy ever again. BTW, the term 'shut your yap' is owned by TB's ex-coach, John Tortorella. He told Ken Hitchcock, then of PHI, what to do with his words in the 2004 play-offs. A thing of beauty I tell ya'.

[Cam_Neely]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Vn35Ybr90

/end thread

[doubledge]

God Help Us. Canucks Lost And Our Downtown Is In The Middle Of A Riot. Cars Are Burning.

[SaisMatters]

Tonights the night! It comes down to the wire.

My prediction-------Riot in Vancouver after the game!

OMG it's like I'm Psychic!!!
Who wants winning lotto numbers???? :)

[auximenes]

Way to stay classy Vancouver. :rolleyes:

BTW, I think if TB made it past BOS, they would have rolled over VAN and won their second Cup.

[Caine33]

'Gratz to the Bruins and to Thomas (Won $500.00 from some hockey noobs)

And sad for Vancouver that the losers on the streets put a blemish on an other wise great season>

[Cam_Neely]

And sad for Vancouver that the losers on the streets put a blemish on an other wise great season>

Ya those were not hockey fans. The people in the building were hockey fans. I was amazed by the standing O that the Bruins got at the end. The cheers from the Canucks fans were almost as goods as the B's would have gotten at home. The roar that Chara, Thomas and Luch got was crazy. Almost as good as the Boos for Bettman :)

[Caine33]

Ya those were not hockey fans. The people in the building were hockey fans. I was amazed by the standing O that the Bruins got at the end. The cheers from the Canucks fans were almost as goods as the B's would have gotten at home. The roar that Chara, Thomas and Luch got was crazy. Almost as good as the Boos for Bettman :)

Chara and Thomas got them for obvious reasons, and Luch cause he's a home grown celeb.

The better team won, and the fans recognized that. That was extremely classy of them.

Can't believe the morons on the outside that participated in the chaos didn't realize that it is no longer a mob thing where you blend in with the crowd with all the camera's around.

I hope they are brought to justice, and would be funny if they get booked due to facebook and youtube clips taken by their friends!!

[auximenes]

Face-recognition FTW.

[noneill]

Since I am too wrapped up in DDO, one of my early thoughts after watching the Bruins win was "I have seen some guy on the DDO forums using Cam Neely as his name, he must be very happy!"

Anyway, Go Bruins and welcome back to Title Town, time for a rolling rally as mumbles likes to call Parades !

[Khanyth]

Wow..... did Vancouver absolutely soil the bedsheets last night. After the 1st period, I'm convinced they stopped trying. They could have played 10 periods and not scored a goal.


As for the rioting.... hey: it happens all the time in different sports in different cities; it's just that because the microscope is on the canucks that everyone sees it. Are you telling me Boston police weren't out making sure the celebrations were kept civil?

[Khanyth]

I will say one very important thing that one brings up:

The playoff beards this year were exceptional. Regardless of the team and how long they were in the playoffs for, almost every team had 4 or 5 players who were follically superb. There were some notable absenses, but over all, the quality of folicle prowess was tremendous!

[ArloOne]

Our whole family celebrates this Boston Bruins Championship!

We are so proud of them. What an excellent and exciting season!

They played with class, consistency and heart!

Sir Stanley would be proud!

[noneill]

As for the rioting.... hey: it happens all the time in different sports in different cities; it's just that because the microscope is on the canucks that everyone sees it. Are you telling me Boston police weren't out making sure the celebrations were kept civil?

They were out there but the BPD has had some practice over the last 10 years in championship celebrations, 3 Patriots, 2 Red Sox, 1 Celtics and now 1 Bruins. Plus one mini one for Bourque when he won the cup with the Avalanche.
Some hard lessons were learned, including one death after the first Red Sox championship so now they are ready and keep things from getting out of hand in the first place.

[Cam_Neely]

They were out there but the BPD has had some practice over the last 10 years in championship celebrations, 3 Patriots, 2 Red Sox, 1 Celtics and now 1 Bruins. Plus one mini one for Bourque when he won the cup with the Avalanche.
Some hard lessons were learned, including one death after the first Red Sox championship so now they are ready and keep things from getting out of hand in the first place.

Yes the police shot one women in the face with a 'non lethal' weapon and killed her, and another man died while handcuffed face down on the ground in the last few years after big wins. Many people (myself included) would not go out because of the tactics encouraged to 'control' people.

[noneill]

My friends and I ran down to Fenway when the Sox won the '86 pennant. That was enough, it was fun but even then the Police were marching down the street and on horses etc. I am all set with that now, more fun watching on TV, with DDO close at hand :D

[SaisMatters]

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[LordMond63]

First, a heartfelt apology to anyone who paid a bit of attention to my prognostication earlier in this thread.

Second, can someone explain why Bettman was booed that lustily? I mean, I understand he's no great shakes as a commissioner, but does Vancouver specifically or Canada in general have something in particular against the guy?

[CrushingInklings]

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At least someone from Vancouver can score on the road.

[Cam_Neely]

Second, can someone explain why Bettman was booed that lustily? I mean, I understand he's no great shakes as a commissioner, but does Vancouver specifically or Canada in general have something in particular against the guy?

I think alot of it is Canadians know and love hockey. Bettman has expanded the league to get more money, and its really hurt the talent pool that play. More over, hes been for expanding in areas where there is a rich ownership group, and not fans, which has hurt the league.

More over he is the end all of the NHL. He is the boss. And in recent years the product has been bad in the form of bad consistency with enforcement. The NHL should be a top league, but due (in many peoples eyes) its a distant 4th due to leadership.

IMO.

[Teech]

Yes the police shot one women in the face with a 'non lethal' weapon and killed her, and another man died while handcuffed face down on the ground in the last few years after big wins. Many people (myself included) would not go out because of the tactics encouraged to 'control' people.

Seeing some of the pictures of the riot in Vancouver, I'd rather security be a bit tighter to discourage rioting than to have so much freedom as to allow destruction of property, looting, and assault...

[Battlehawke]

Go Bruins!

[Synonym]

At least someone from Vancouver can score on the road.
Excellent!

[Caine33]

I think alot of it is Canadians know and love hockey. Bettman has expanded the league to get more money, and its really hurt the talent pool that play. More over, hes been for expanding in areas where there is a rich ownership group, and not fans, which has hurt the league.

More over he is the end all of the NHL. He is the boss. And in recent years the product has been bad in the form of bad consistency with enforcement. The NHL should be a top league, but due (in many peoples eyes) its a distant 4th due to leadership.

IMO.

+1

Couldn't have said it better.

Hockey fans see Bettman as worse than the Devil, for allowing teams like Atlanta, Florida, Phoenix to try over and over to get a fanbase that cares about the game, while cities in Canada are burning to get franchises that possibly could be more viable (Winnipeg, Quebec City, Hamilton).

Unfortunately, Bettman is trying to follow the NFL and NBA model of teams in key demographic areas for TV revenue, but sadly Hockey will always be relegated below franchises from those leagues, not to mention the MLB.

Being from Toronto it is disappointing from a hockey perspective to not have another team that could sell out, in Ontario to challenge the Leaf organization to field a better quality of play.

The mess in Vancouver or Boston at any time wouldn't rival the chaos that would ensue if the Leafs ever made the finals. Fortunately (or not, depends on perspective) this will most likely never happen in my lifetime the way it stands.

Move over Cubs, cause we're gonna make a pitch at championship futility

[arch0njw]

{snipped picture of "Vancouver Riot Kissing Couple"}

I thought this was a photoshop of something from Twilight or True Blood.

But apparently it's real?!

[auximenes]

Gary Bettman can go DIAF.

[LordMond63]

Well, being a hockey fan here in Alabama (one of six allowed under our state constitution...you can join the group only if someone on the list moves or dies), I can certainly understand the frustration of not having a team nearby to root for. We haven't had one here since the ECHL Bulls departed many years back. I've gone to a few Nashville Predators games and it sure seems like they have an energetic and sizable fan base, so maybe they are going to escape the fate that befell Atlanta and may yet befall Phoenix.

I suppose that, from a strictly business standpoint, what Bettman did made sense at the time. I'm guessing he was looking at population density rather than fan intensity. which is why places like Phoenix, Tampa and Atlanta got teams while Winnipeg didn't (a wrong soon to be corrected, I hope). The problem, as I see it, is that, if you have a million people in a city and way less than 1% are hockey fans (which seemed to be the case in Atlanta), the team is not going to make it for long. But if you have 200,000 people in a city and 25% are hockey fans, the team should do fine. How Bettman would not understand the intensity with which Canadians follow hockey I can't understand.

[auximenes]

Tampa/St. Pete was a good area to place a hockey team, with the large population of transplanted northerners and great weather. Sometimes the arena is half-full with Boston, Detroit, or Philly fans, but the attendance is almost always towards the top of the league charts.

Miami theoretically should also attact the northerners, but there aren't nearly as many permanent transplants anymore. Miami has changed a lot since hurricane Andrew hit in '92.

[Elation]

Look I am all for teams being in places where they will be supported unfortunatly the places listed quebec and winnipeg already lost teams do to the fact they could not support them. What has changed to ake it seem like a good idea to place another team there? I miss some of the old teams to i miss hartford whalers and some of them but i am not seeing a place o add a new team at the moment.

[CrushingInklings]

Look I am all for teams being in places where they will be supported unfortunatly the places listed quebec and winnipeg already lost teams do to the fact they could not support them. What has changed to ake it seem like a good idea to place another team there? I miss some of the old teams to i miss hartford whalers and some of them but i am not seeing a place o add a new team at the moment.

Most of the places you listed had ZERO problem supporting a team. They were rushed out of the area by Bettman to fulfill his southern hockey idea. He used the excuse that the arenas those teams were using were out dated and didnt have enough seating.(revenue) Now those new teams bring in fractions of fans that even those old arenas held.

[Khanyth]

Look I am all for teams being in places where they will be supported unfortunatly the places listed quebec and winnipeg already lost teams do to the fact they could not support them. What has changed to ake it seem like a good idea to place another team there? I miss some of the old teams to i miss hartford whalers and some of them but i am not seeing a place o add a new team at the moment.

Negative. Winnipeg is one of the few places in canada to not get effed in the hoop by the economic clusterf$$k. In fact, Winnipeg has grown in spite of it. Winnipeg's arena is better and most importantly, we have the richest man in Canada bankrolling the show.

As for Quebec, they'll whine their way to get more $$$ and they'll get Phoenix. They just need to put down the poutine and the Fin de Mond and start building their stadium.




Most of the places you listed had ZERO problem supporting a team. They were rushed out of the area by Bettman to fulfill his southern hockey idea. He used the excuse that the arenas those teams were using were out dated and didnt have enough seating.(revenue) Now those new teams bring in fractions of fans that even those old arenas held.

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Winnipeg. As a Winnipeger, let me set you straight on this so you don't say these things out loud and save some face:

1. The old Wpg arena was a heap of s$$t, rusted metal beams, and concrete. It's sole benefit was that when the Jets did make the playoffs, it was a freekin' LOUD building.
2. No one wanted to buy the Jets from Shenkarow locally and someone wanted them in Phoenix. The Jets were also hemoraging $$$ because the arena couldn't provide new sources of revenue for the Jets.
3. The Jets were a **** team pre-Coyotes days. They finally caved in due to poor drafting, poor trading, and cheapness. Winnipeg's attendance was in the bottom 5 for the last 5 years of the Jets' life. Teemu was one day a hero, the next, a worthless bum that needed to be traded.

So: you take a **** building plus a owners desire to sell to anyone plus a team that can't achieve success..... it's no wonder the Jets left in 95

[Khanyth]

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Out of curiousity..... is Daniel on top or Henrik? I can't tell the two apart for the life of me